Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera c-mount lens compatibility list

[Julian]

@mdebono: check the list. It's not true, some wide angles work, but they have to be made for big sensors.

The 10.5mm-147mm is probably made for 2/3", that's not going to work on the S16 sensor for wide angle.

 

Fujinon TV zooms that start with a 'C' are designed for 1" and could work. Here is a list:

• Fujinon-TV Zoom C10x16A, 1.8/16-160mm
• Fujinon-TV Zoom C10x16, 2.5/16-160mm
• Fujinon-TV Zoom C6x17.5, 1.8/17.5-105
• Fujinon-TV Zoom C5x20 20-100
• Fujinon-TV Zoom C14x25, 3.5/25-350mm

[Bioskop.Inc]

If you haven't come across this website yet & not read these articles (well the first 2 anyway, the history one is exactly that, so not as useful) about C-mount lenses, then you should:

 

http://www.c-mountlens.com/category/articles/

[mdebono]

Thanks for all the info guys! Really appreciate it.

 

I'm also searching for a decent wide-angle as I'm covered when it comes to the rest of the focal length, but it seems pretty hard to find a decent one due to the crop factor. The widest non-fisheye digital zoom lenses I found so far are the Olympus 9-18mm and the Panasonic 7-14mm (the latter costs more than the camera..).

[xten]

what about Angenieux 12-120mm? 

I'm new, I was just wondering what this would look like on the BMCC

[benhalford]

Ok guys,

 

new here but:

 

just went to my local camera store as I don't own a MFT camera, they let me put on my Kinoptik 5.7mm

 

here are the results (using a G10):

 

This is the lens at 5.6: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1t_8yJejOyyWHpYLTRCVGZlMUE/edit?usp=sharing

 

and then wide open: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1t_8yJejOyyeXZ0WGltVkpvQ28/edit?usp=sharing

 

(Sorry can't share links or pics yet....)

 

So atleast we know for 100% will cover the pocket, however wide open looks a bit soft at the sides... 

Also didn't think the distortion was that bad considering this is a 5.7mm

[Shane Essary]

If there's interest, I'll try to post up my Kinor 16 lens results when they come in (6mm fisheye, 10mm, 20mm, 25mm, 12-120mm zoom).  I went on a little spending spree.  :(  Fortunately these are nowhere near the prices of Switars.  Yet.

 

There's a sensor/fit list for the GH1 from a couple years back on google docs, someone should repurpose that for this and update with new findings.

[jimbee]

A newbie question, if the flange focal distance for a C-mount lens is 17.5mm and the micro 4/3 flange distance is 19.25mm, will these C-mount lenses focus properly with a C-mount-to-M4/3 adapter?  Does the adapter turn the 17.5mm into 19.25mm?

[andy lee]

Wollensak 1 Inch (25mm) f1.9 C-Mount Cine Raptar-  yes will work on BMPC - also superb on gh2 (no vingetting)  GREAT VINTAGE LENS

[Shane Essary]

Wollensak 1 Inch (25mm) f1.9 C-Mount Cine Raptar-  yes will work on BMPC - also superb on gh2 (no vingetting)  GREAT VINTAGE LENS

Indeed, I have this one, as well.  They're relatively cheap, too, and there's almost always one up on ebay.

[andy lee]

its has alot of character and low contrast a very nice Image

[vast]

I found interesting series of picture. How about this lens modification ?? (Fujinon tv lens mod..make this lens had wider coverage, that fits on Panasonic GH1)

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9423335@N02/3998775696/in/set-72157622556010112/

[pulp_writer]

Hello Julian,

great idea, very informative!

 

For all those who would like to try some old lenses on the BMPCC, here are my lenses between 10 and 16 mm. None of these is younger than 30 years, most are cine-lenses taken from 8mm or 16mm cameras. Some can still be found cheap on eBay, others have multiplied in price since I bought them. All show vignetting with the MFT sensor, so I had virtually given up on them (except in crop mode).

This first batch of images is with the apertures open.

I will upload some shots from outdoors with apertures stopped down later.

 

Leitz Macro Cinegon 10mm f/1.8

This is actually not a C but an M-mount lens, made for Leica’s flagship super 8 camera, the Leicina Special in the 1970s. Very attractive because it has a macro mode.

It shows very slight vignetting, but may be usable still.

 

 

Schneider-Kreuznach Cinegon 11.5mm f/1.9

A very popular lens for 8 and 16mm (1960s~). Also shows vignetting, but doesn't look too bad.

 

 

 

Wollensak Cine Raptar 12.5mm f/1.5

A very old lens from an ancient 16mm Bell & Howell Filmo 70 DA, manufactured in the1930s. This is a f/1.5 lens but is a little soft wide open, so I stopped it down to f/2.7.

Shows no vignetting.

 

 

 

Cine-Nikkor 13mm f/1.8

This one comes from a very rare Japan Victor Corporation 16mm camera made in 1957. Nikon used to make very good cine lenses. This one is wide open now, but gets  sharper when stopped down.

(It looks like a wider lens here compared to the others, but that's only because I had to move back a little with my tripod to get it to focus.)

No vignetting.

 

 

 

Schneider-Kreuznach Cine-Xenon 16mm f/2

From a Beaulieu RC16, 1960s. 

Unfortunately, there's something wrong with the aperture ring of this one: it won't move.

But still, a very fine lens without vignetting.

(Well, looking at the thumbnail, you can see that the lower left corner is considerably darker. But in the full picture, it is not that apparent)

 

I have two more lenses in this category, one is a Canon TV Zoom 11-110mm, which I didn't put on because it only focuses to 1.2m, and the other is an Angenieux 10mm Retrofocus lens, which is totally out of focus when wide open.

I have also found an Avenir CCTV lens 6.5mm, very wide, which looks promising, but it is a fixed focus lens too.

I will put them on along with the others when I shoot outside.

[Julian]

Thanks for your tests! I've been away for a few days, will update the list later today :)

[xcm]

Hi, I just ordered mine, need at least a week to arrive. after i will inform You.

The Computar 12,5-75mm 1,2 seems like a good zoom option. 

Anyone knows if it will vignette or how sharp it is?

[andy lee]

vingettes on a gh2 +  needed machining at bottom to get focus correct

[thomse]

Hi, I just ordered mine, need at least a week to arrive. after i will inform You.

Cool. Looking forward to hearing. I've gotten mine, but don't have any mft camera before the pocket camera.. 

[Sergei Vasilyev]

Pentax/Cosmicar 6mm 1:1.2    :(   https://vimeo.com/20766631

[cantsin]

Ernitec 6.5mm/1.8 (specified for 1") works great - but as a fisheye lens:

 

Century 9mm/1.8 (probably a 1" lens) works but is not a good lens:

 

Schneider 10mm/1.8 vignettes:

 

Switar 10mm/1.6 with slight vignette & blurry corners:

 

Fujinon 12.5mm/1.4 works, with blurry corners:

 

 

Schneider Xenon 16mm/2.0 works, with blurry corners unless stopped down:

 

Schneider Xenoplan 17mm/1.7 works but is very blurry in the corners:

 

Navitar/Ernitec 17mm+25mm/0.95 works, but with very blurry corners and strong barrel distortion:

 

 

Bottom line: c-mount lenses <25mm that aren't explicitly specified for 1" might somehow cover the 1"/s16 sensor, but typically with strong blurs at the left and right corners of the image. In that light, the information in this thread has to be taken with a grain of salt.

[xten]

Ernitec 6.5mm/1.8 (specified for 1") works great - but as a fisheye lens:

23-ernitec65.jpg

 

Century 9mm/1.8 (probably a 1" lens) works but is not a good lens:

09-century.jpg

 

Schneider 10mm/1.8 vignettes:

19-schneider10.jpg

 

Switar 10mm/1.6 with slight vignette & blurry corners:

21-switar10.jpg

 

Fujinon 12.5mm/1.4 works, with blurry corners:

05-fujinon12.jpg

 

 

Schneider Xenon 16mm/2.0 works, with blurry corners unless stopped down:

17-schneider16.jpg

 

Schneider Xenoplan 17mm/1.7 works but is very blurry in the corners:

07-schneider17.jpg

 

Navitar/Ernitec 17mm+25mm/0.95 works, but with very blurry corners and strong barrel distortion:

13-ernitec17.jpg

 

 

Bottom line: c-mount lenses <25mm that aren't explicitly specified for 1" might somehow cover the 1"/s16 sensor, but typically with strong blurs at the left and right corners of the image. In that light, the information in this thread has to be taken with a grain of salt.

helpful; thanks!

[Ext.Synchro]

Ernitec 6.5mm/1.8 (specified for 1") works great - but as a fisheye lens:

23-ernitec65.jpg

 

Century 9mm/1.8 (probably a 1" lens) works but is not a good lens:

09-century.jpg

 

Schneider 10mm/1.8 vignettes:

19-schneider10.jpg

 

Switar 10mm/1.6 with slight vignette & blurry corners:

21-switar10.jpg

 

Fujinon 12.5mm/1.4 works, with blurry corners:

05-fujinon12.jpg

 

 

Schneider Xenon 16mm/2.0 works, with blurry corners unless stopped down:

17-schneider16.jpg

 

Schneider Xenoplan 17mm/1.7 works but is very blurry in the corners:

07-schneider17.jpg

 

Navitar/Ernitec 17mm+25mm/0.95 works, but with very blurry corners and strong barrel distortion:

13-ernitec17.jpg

 

 

Bottom line: c-mount lenses <25mm that aren't explicitly specified for 1" might somehow cover the 1"/s16 sensor, but typically with strong blurs at the left and right corners of the image. In that light, the information in this thread has to be taken with a grain of salt.

Which Schneider 10 mm did you test? The black or the silver one? And why do you think the Century 9mm to not be a good lens? Thanks