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[quote name='tehgeek' timestamp='1345790944' post='16377'] Really love the idea of this camera but wish it wasn't so much of a 'B' camera ergonomically. I'd love a more hand held body as I can't see this being usable without buying a lot of extras. But I still love what they have done and the footage out of it looks fantastic and the price is amazing. [/quote] How is it different ergonomically to a DSLR? If you need to a rig a DSLR you will need to rig this. The only thing you need extra is a battery base plate. You can still hold it barebones like a DSLR or put it on a tripod.

[quote name='jcs' timestamp='1345781766' post='16364'] The quality from 50Mbps long GOP 422 8-bit is amazing. [/quote] Not in terms of motion quality. I can always spot the crappy look of Long-GOP encoding. Temporal compression on captured footage will always look cheap. And then 8-bit color-space? Don't even start on that... 8-bit can look good... but never "great". And it's not even worth talking about in the same breath as 12-bit color space.

[quote name='EOSHD' timestamp='1345762961' post='16345'] You are damned right they have a risk aversion. They probably even have an entire risk assessment department! [/quote] I think this is a product of the economics of a large corporation. I helped start a subsidiary for a Fortune 5 company in 1995 that we grew to 600 employees and a multi-billion dollar business. Then Corporate changed directions and shut that company down (repurposed the employees.) We VP's would have loved to buy the company and run it, we could have make a few million per year. But we would have been competing directly with the parent company, and they were looking for profit in the realm of $1 billion to $2 billion from each unit. They could care less if we were able to bring in $5 million or $10 million. It was totally irrelevant to them. It is the same thing here. Canon is looking for category leading products, in every market worldwide. They aren't going to devote scarce internal resources to a product that might sell 10,000 copies, when they have 3 others in the pipeline that will each deliver 150,000 to 2 million. It's a fact of life in a large company. I see so much emotion involved in this all over the web, every time a new camera comes out. It gets a bit tedious. A little morte professional and business analysis would be useful - there are reasons for thethings that happen, and Canon is still by far the largest camera company in the woprld. Us? Well ... by comparison ... not so much. ;>) I posted elsewhere, I had a Kodak 14n full frame 14 MP on pre-order at 3 places in 2002/2003 when it was first announced. It looked great on paper! Unfortunately, it had some issues when it first came out that limited it's use to 25 ISO, shots with no aliasing, moire, etc. They continued to tweak it over teh next 2 years, and some folks were able to make great images with that camera. Canon announced the 16 MP 1DsII about 6 months after the Kodak started to ship, released it 2 months after that. The 1DsII was a truly great all around camera. Perhaps still the best that I have ever used in some ways (out of 35+ cameras I have owned - Mamiya 7II, 645, 4x5, etc.) We will ghet trickle down of 12 bit, 4:4:2 and 4:4:4, RAW, Canon Log, uncompressed HDMI out from the 1DC, C300, C500 as the hardware becomes less expensive. There are also a lot of things that are firmware based. Hopefully either Canon or ML will deliver some of those this year yet. I actually am **hoping** that Canon has not yet released their "video centric" camera for this cycle. The 5D3 is obviosly a very core "photo centric" product. The T4i is an entry level product with some of the features that we will see on the next video DSLR. I hope that the rumoured "entry level" full frame camera that is expected this fall is more focused on video. Unfortunately, ther D800 may force Canon to release their high MP camera this fall, and defer on a video DSLR to winter or spring. Too many launches already in the wings. We will see ... Of course, we also have their camcorder division. Cheers! No offense meant, just my 2 cents. Michael

Thanks for sharing. The RAW and resolution are nice. I think it will be a great niche camera to start. I loved the look of the later image (Shot 3), where she is in the "window/porch" toward dusk with the dress. That grades well too. The interior images and the sparkler images are somewhat ugly. That worries me a bit. Sensor video look? Lighting? I will have to reserve judgement on that until I see more. I have to say that I really do not like the grain of these images. It looks very digital and is quite distracting to me. I don't know why so many seem so confused about sharpening and Canon files. I have owned just about every digital Canon since the D30 (not 30D.) Each camera has it's own, unique AA filter, and it's own requirements for sharpening to REVERSE the effects of the filter. Canon has always used a strong filter. This is the same thing that Nikon did in camera in the D800E. They left in the first AA filter, then immediately put in a "cross" AA filter to counteract it's effect. That is what you are doing in post. It is the first of 3 stages of sharpening ( 1: post capture; 2: creative - portrait, landscape; and 3: output - screen, broadcast, web, printer) I automatically apply USM (300, .9, 0) in Premiere Pro on an Adjustment Layer to counteract the AA filter. I have been doing a variation of this since 2004 with the 1DsII 16 MP sensor. Canon recommended (300, .3, 0) starting with that sensor. I think we are in the realm of "all around cameras" and "niche cameras" here. The BMC looks like it will be great for certain tasks and certain looks.

I'm happy the DSLR community has had this [i]opportunity[/i] to wake up from compressed footage, you forget we had no choice for under what it cost for a Red!

[img]http://www.eoshd.com/comments/uploads/inline/20670/503695e4cb254_ScreenShot20120823at14142PM.png[/img] choose one image and make sure these boxes are checked, this will import all the frames as a clip.

So when creating ProRes444 proxies there is virtually no loss of quality or flexibility, as you can see here. This was rendered from the proxy in AE, and I bent the shit out of this image and gave it a massively oversaturated, bleach bypass "Domino" look (In honor of the departed Tony Scott) and it holds up beautifully. (I had to zoom in 400% to see a infinitesimal amount of pixel blur vs. the DNG). So a proxy based workflow is a definite, and viable option. [url="https://vimeo.com/48098229"]http://www.vimeo.com/48098229[/url]