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This post seemed relevant for two threads, so here it is again edited a bit. two birds and all that:   I just had to make a choice, and went with 5D MKiii. I previously had a preorder on BMD 4K Just about the best stills camera around, aside from medium format ( I have used a Hasselblad H3D out and about, foolishly enough. My wrist hurts just thinking about it.). Nikon D800 may pip it, but it's quite clunky in use and the video sucks. Raw feature and Magic Lantern in general will mature as the cards and storage catch up, so it's relatively future proof. Now raw is impractical, in a while it won't be. Harder than Chuck Norris in a Viagra factory - it won't break if I take it to a desert. If it does Canon will fix it more quickly than most other companies. Size matters. No moire issues. A tiny bit of softness doesn't distract. A tiny bit of moire does. Enough resolution. I don't care about absolute resolution, pixel peeping is silly really. I like 16mm film best of all formats. The feel of the image is more important than razor sharp eybrow hair. See also The Hobbit. Brilliant low light performance. Menu systems that I understand. All my lenses are adapted to EF.  Full frame means buying one longer lens though... A huge range of accessories, as it's industry standard. It's familiar to my collaborators - on a corporate shoot recently, we all knew what we meant when we chatted settings. I got a good price second hand, which was important. The retail is a bit high IMO. Depreciation will be minimal, comparatively. So far 5D MKiii raw appears to look more electronic than Alexa/Red/BMD. I feel this is because many tests are relatively unprocessed, too saturated and sharpened, and I look forward to taming it creatively as it becomes practical to use technically. I may still keep the 600D with Mosaic filter, just for the 3x crop video mode. I wish Canon would put this mode in the 5D. In short, yes I know they are cynical with feature splitting across SKUs. I do agree that it's frustrating. But at the end of the day a creative tool needs to  work on many subtle levels. Being the best at one thing doesn't cut it. Having a good all-round package, whether I like to admit it or not, does. So they get the cash.

I just had to make this choice, and went with 5D MKiii. Just about the best stills camera around, aside from medium format ( I have used a Hasselblad H3D out and about, foolishly enough. My wrist hurts just thinking about it.). Nikon D800 may pip it, but it's quite clunky in use and the video sucks. Raw feature and Magic Lantern in general will mature as the cards and storage catch up, so it's relatively future proof. Now raw is impractical, in a while it won't be. Harder than Chuck Norris in a Viagra factory - it won't break if I take it to a desert. If it does Canon will fix it more quickly than most other companies. Size matters. No moire issues. A tiny bit of softness doesn't distract. A tiny bit of moire does. Enough resolution. I don't care about absolute resolution, pixel peeping is silly really. I like 16mm film best of all formats. The feel of the image is more important than razor sharp eybrow hair. See also The Hobbit. The G6 has a video feel IMO. I'd rather have a softer image that's more cinematic. Brilliant low light performance. Menu systems that I understand. All my lenses are adapted to EF. Full frame means buying one longer lens though... A huge range of accessories, as it's industry standard. It's familiar to my collaborators - on a corporate shoot recently, we all knew what we meant when we chatted settings. I got a good price second hand, which was important. The retail is a bit high IMO. Depreciation will be minimal, comparatively. The G6 is sharp and has 1080/60p, but I don't want to be swapping bodies a lot and I feel it would likely be superseded swiftly. I prefer to learn one and keep it for a long time, much like an instrument. I also feel the image quality itself is pretty video-like on the G6. This is hard to pin down, but laymen (and wives and girlfriends too, often) will use terms like "cheap" or "TV like". That's important to me as it's audience reaction, not geek reaction! ;) I had an RX100 for a while and though it's impressive, it just has a real video look that stood out when I cut it with Canon EOS. As far as I can see the G6 feels similar. Just a personal preference, your mileage may vary, but I can't buy off a spec sheet, I must purchase on real-world application. I won't repeat mistakes. I would buy and RX100 in a heartbeat for documentary or TV work. It almost renders camcorders obsolete I feel. It's just not very "filmic". So far 5D MKiii raw appears to look more electronic than Alexa/Red/BMD. I feel this is because many tests are relatively unprocessed, too saturated and sharpened, and I look forward to taming it creatively as it becomes practical to use technically. I may still keep the 600D with Mosaic filter, just for the 3x crop video mode. I wish Canon would put this mode in the 5D. In short, yes I know they are cynical with feature splitting across SKUs. I do agree that it's frustrating. But at the end of the day a creative tool needs to work on many subtle levels. Being the best at one thing doesn't cut it. Having a good all-round package, whether I like to admit it or not, does. So they get the cash.

i am sure these new lens will be great compared too the century and the panasonic as all the design work was done years ago,just a question of figuring out what panasonic and century did wrong. and engraving a new logo on .   1700 -2000 for the letus is gonna be an interesting sell in the age of pocket cameras.. an interesting test will be century with achromat against slr magic at f2.8 and f4. i did a test close up lens at  mag power +0.12 and it was way to mild and subtle waste of time. tokina magnification is great but as i had a few left i thought i would go milder at 0.25 many people even dp's still say single element is all you need and mild magnification does not generate any chromatic shit but i can see it on a battered old gh1 screen zoomed in. i have some old angenieux single element i have tested the new doublet against and it beats the single element angenieux.