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maybe i will use some from the dance!the flashed are always a big problem, but theres nothing to do about it, everytime there is an important moment bam-flash, thats why i love video, is so undercover hehe..nobody even knows you are filming them they think you are photographing them, this was my set up and it was hard to shoot...monopod and double focus ...good luck

Hello everybody, i wanted to collect all the things where the GH4 doesnt quite work as it should. Those can be bugs, problems or things that are just worse when compared to the GH3. bugs or problems are something that need to be fixed and since panasonic seems to read around this forum, it might shorten the time to do so. quirks are negative aspects about this camera, that people need to know before buying it, since these things are not advertised: -Very soft video in variable framerate mode: 1080p 96fps footage looks more like 720p which has been upscaled than actual full hd footage. -No auto focus in slow motion mode: when recording 96fps the auto focus is not available, which is understandable on my end. but its also not available when you havent even started recording, which is just weird. so once you set it to 96fps, you have to focus manually. -Slow auto focus in video: its hard to detemine a definiton for "slow" in this regard but since its slower than the GH3 it cant be working properly. it should be faster, due to the new auto focus system used or at least the same than the GH3. -Crop on 4k video: recording in 4k will give you a crop factor of 2.3 instead of 2. -Rolling shutter is worse in 4k: rolling shutter is worse when you are filming in 4k compared to 1080p, which makes sense. but its also worse than 1080p on the GH3. i thought the sensor read out was supposed to me much faster on the GH4. anything else? i heard there was some audio issue with humming when not in manual video mode. is that correct? please let me know other things i forgot or didnt know.

This is a must watch if own a GH3 and have any interest on the GH4. He makes many great points. He also shows off the shadow and highlight curve manipulation feature, and a pedestal setting.

Damn it Julian... need more cat! :)

i dont understand those people who go all "fanboy" on my idea. is the gh4 a great camera? yes. is it a good bang for the buck? absolutely. is it perfect? obviously not. since its a new camera i thought it would only be fair to talk about things people should know before buying this camera. if you would only get it for the 96fps mode and then notice that its quite soft and auto focus doesnt work, youd be disappointed, correct? im just here to list facts and information, if you feel you have to defend the gh4 for being super cool and i'm just a bad person for even talking about these things, i think youre being subjective and need to grow up. anyway i did a quick screenshot comparison between 1080p 96fps off the camera and downscaling it to 720 and then upscaling it back to 1080p. http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/74686 as you can see there is more information in the 1080p picture. that means although the 1080p 96fps picture might be a little soft, it retains more information than a 720p picture. id love to see a comparison like this between the GH3 and GH4 both in 1080p mode regarding sharpness and rolling shutter :) if anyone has the possibility to do this test, id highly appreciate it.

Hi guys we recently shot an advert for Adidas using the 5d mk3 magic lantern raw hack. I'd be happy to answer any questions.

Great work by Kendy! I see that many of his shots have bokeh, so the equipment does matter to some extent. It would be interesting to see what he could do creatively with a small sensor camcorder. I read that he does not use lighting, only ambient. If the scene is dark, he says it adds to the mood, and that lighting would only make it look "fake". He uses no tripod or Steadycam. He doesn't use external audio gear, just "in camera" with a Rode mic. He uses After Effects to edit and grade, and he does it himself. He created his own camera picture style, which he sells on his website for 9 Euros. He has no crew. He has no budget. He is self taught, and only starting filming a few years ago. If this doesn't prove that you can create great things with minimal gear, and no budget, I don't know what will. It's very inspirational. Michael

I think the fact that there's so much colour tone in the shadows at 3 secs makes it look great and remarkably un-video-like. But whatever, I'm so done with the repeated talk of "video" and "film" talk in this forum.

If you already have the experience with other gear, and if you have the money, why not. The GH4 is a great tool, future proof and has nice extras like 96 fps, 4K for cropping/panning, great evf, flip screen, etc. Go for it and enjoy :)

i don't think it looks like 'video'. but it certainly doesnt look like film either. The look pretty much gave me a feeling of moving still images, stylised in a fashion suitable for the current sportswear marketing style. This look will be coming from the lenses, in combination with the full frame image area - both of which are the stable diet of still photographers working on this type of material for big brands the world over. Set the same equipment up for video work and when done superbly like this, with a really nice lighting style i think it works really nice for this type of promo. The fact that this looks as technically good as if it had been shot on Alexa (thanks to the amazing raw hack), but using a non cinema camera and lenses other than cookes or zeiss cinema lenses the obviousness of the repurposed still photography equipment will be boosted due to the rest of the production value being of a level which normally would include an alexa and cookes.

I too am not a fan of Samyang lenses also try a set of Canon FD lenses 24 , 28 , 35 , 50, 85, 100 will cost you not alot on ebay

Having some menu quirks - for instance, if I am in video mode on the dial, and I go into the menu, then down to the Playback tab, and then into the playback menu itself (arrow over into the actual list of options), the screen goes black for a quarter of a second, the mic shuts off, and then the screen comes back on as normal. The audio comes back as soon as you exit the menus. Not an issue in any practical sense, but quirky. Also, going into the menu system when I don't immediately start on the playback tab (so if the last time I left the menu I was in the, say, custom tab), the screen is ever so slightly dimmer. When I go into the playback menu itself, the screen brightens up by a very faint amount. This also happened on my old GH3 and I've seen (and heard of) it on GX7's, so, again, not any sort of issue, but quirky. edit - Also, I've been stopped twice on the street while shooting photos and asked if I was using a GH4. As an introvert, I consider this to be a considerable flaw :lol: (Also also, I live in Austin, Texas in the United States, so I guess Panasonic does have some US market penetration!)

Thanks for all the answers :) richg101 => would you have a video sample to see the 'cine' look you are talking about? I also heard the Yashica lenses are really great for video they where made in the same factory than the zeiss lenses. Would you recommend them? I am planning on buying the GH4 but the only thing that is keeping me for buying it, is the crop factor, and getting a shallow depth of field is harder and it needs faster lenses like the 25/0.95 from Voigtlander which costs 1100 euros. So I am not really sure what to buy. :wacko:

I'm actually selling my Pentax 110 lenses (switching to Canon FD), I have a 20-40 2.8 and 18 2.8 for sale. Both include adapters for Pentax110 to M4/3, one with adjustable aperture (which cost me $50). Asking $150 + shipping.

Obviously, he sold his soul to Satan to get such amazing work out of such limited resources! :D From reading more, it appears he's not even using the Magic Lantern hack except to help him handle audio, is this correct? Wow.

Definitely some nice shots in there Christina. Really adds something special, think the clients will like it! Maybe even cool to edit this trough your normal (16:9 or 2,35:1) edit. Shame about the flashes, kinda kills the mood. But you can't really do anything about that...

Jason, I'm not trying to pick on you here... but for a few years now you've posted here on EOSHD, dvxuser, cinema 5d and I don't know where else purely on one subject matter... and that has been an absolutely obsessive compulsive whirlwind of posts on which camera to get and which is most "filmic". This has gone on for years now. You bought the 60D, was too soft.. wanted the GH3, it was too much like "video", bought the 5D, and have made endless posts commenting on how the 5D with raw blows the socks off everything out there. Am I right in saying that you never actually even tried 5d raw? Then you say the GH4 is too much like video and much prefer the 5D image... but you're now wanting to sell the 5D to buy something else? This is absolutely crazy. You're a novice with an ultra expensive toy, who just isn't satisfied with image quality. If you were spending endless hours filming and doing tests and actually using your camera, then at least there would be some reason to the madness. But the only video you've uploaded is a handheld point and shoot clip of the 5D that shows no understanding of filming or photography. You've been too busy obsessing with which is the best camera to get. The truth is that no matter the camera you buy, your videos will look horrible. Why? Because all of your energy is focussed purely on comparison without actually shooting or trying things for yourself. You're just judging the uploads of others. Myself and many others have been very tactful in telling you how to get your "film look", but you insist on believing otherwise. Are your friends not tired of seeing the endless camera comparisons you're showing them. Don't they ever ask to see some work you've done? Stop stating with such confidence how things are, and which camera produces the better image. Start being less opinionated on both cameras and the "hollywood look" as you've referred to it as - and start actually learning some real technique from this forum. You have a great camera. Stop wasting your time, read the manual and start using it already. This forum has a wealth of knowledge that no film school could offer. Use it. And please stop wasting your money on endless camera body upgrades. The A7s won't be perfect either, no camera ever will. I'm sorry if this has come across aggressively, but just look over the last couple of years of posts you've made reiterating the same obsession, without having actually gotten your hands dirty. Please, for your own sake start focussing on something else. ( i.e: focus on shooting rather than which camera is best )

  A low contrast look is not superior. You can make the GH4 and 5D raw look as flat as a pancake if you want to. Question is what is the benefit? If your monitor had a low contrast look you'd return it to the shop! I don't know why people think a flat look is superior. For grading raw has no look. It isn't flat. It is raw data straight off the sensor that describes colours, whites and blacks. Why compress all that into the mids and get grey? I blame stuff like CineStyle for the confusion.