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You can't buy experience you have to earn it...I've been doing this for 25 years now and seen all sorts of cameras and styles come and go . All the stuff I learnt shooting Super 16 in the early days and 4 perf 35mm carries forward to all these digital cameras. Lighting and lenses are the two most important factors - very often over looked by people on here . Learn to light thats the key to it all.

Indeed. What's interesting is that none of the defensive posters are actually enthusiasts. One owns an Epic and one's simply just an idiot with a keyboard instead of a camera. The problem with Canon is not the pro $12,000 stuff it is the enthusiast $1k-3k cameras that aren't giving us the innovation we want on the video side. Nobody can defend it, not even Canon themselves. Which is why they are so quiet about it.

  Key word is "overall". Some facts my friend...   Sony A7S with a monitor on top kills the 1D C stone dead for image quality. 1D C is not full frame 4K. The active imaging area is barely any larger than Super 35mm in 4K mode, thus NX1 and GH4 with Speed Booster give a similar rendering of Canon full frame lenses The codec is from another time, when dinosaurs ruled the earth. 4K MJPEG takes up 6 times the space on my drive that H.265 4K does. Monitoring on the 1D C bare bones is a nightmare. No EVF, no peaking, in fact virtually nothing to help you focus The GH4 and NX1 can be used bare bones without a monitor, far more pleasing to shoot with The 1D C is $12,000... how many times do I have to mention ENTHUSIAST MARKET for you to get the point of the article? The 1D C's codec has banding issues at low ISOs The 1D C's sensor is rated barely 12 stops, the GH4 for 13 stops and the A7S for 14. So in that sense the raw stills aren't the best either   Like I said... Sony A7S with Shogun on top or 1D C with monitor on top just so you can focus... It's a no brainer. Image, usability, size, portability... everything is better on the Sony.

The status quo isn't in the minds eye of next generation high tech storytellers, and mirrorless should be a wakeup call for legacy camera makers. A lot of pros don't embrace change quickly as it is so damn expensive to constantly reinvest. It's never ending! However, as a very high end pro-shooter for 25 years now I am convinced, after experiencing it first hand, that mirrorless is the way forward, and 4K is a step in the right direction not just for video, but for printed stills as well. The next generation chips are only going to be better, and if you make a living with a camera, then it only makes sense to buy the brands that allow you to shoot stills, video, or both at the same time. Also, mirrorless cameras have features that make our lives easier. The camera does't make the photographer, but they definitely change the shape of the industry and how we survive or succeed in it.

Using a Hypergonar. A7S with a set of Russian glass. Initial tests will be minimitable focal length for FF and APS-C as well as quick rack focus, sharpness tests, and of course bokeh and flares.

That's it. I'm calling it the T-rex on USA boards from now onwards. Ooo, are we playing this game? Can I play too? I think they're slowly changing that now. All the new cameras have power aperture in them. Pretty sure the low-end (D5300 and below) won't have them though. You're wrong on this one. What company is allowed to get away with 6 year old tech in their cameras? What company only allows "positive commentary" to be posted in blogs and frowns on those with "critical tone"? What company gets to sell cameras with less features at a higher price and still move them by the boat load? What company gets to do all the above and still look like a leader? It's a company with one hell of a marketing department. Global marketing department, I might add.

It definitely needs polish, and I can't BEEEELLLIIIVE the left out raw photo editing... huge marketing and selling point of the phone that is.   I am very happy with it now I have this feature.   It's so cool to be able to grade a 20MP 12 stop dynamic range still on a phone and upload it straight away.

Well...This is a very interesting debate...very interesting reading, I can sense a few feathers getting ruffled. I am not on anyones side here, but I can almost gaurantee that if you took some really well shot footage from either the 1DC or the GH4 or the A7s and did some nice color grading on each and played that downsized footage at 1080P to an average viewer ...which is 99% of the people. I would bet a thousand dollars that they would see them all being roughly equal and not say that footage looks great, that sucks etc... so in that sense as we are still mainly viewing in 1080P at best (ipads etc..are often hard to tell between 720p and 1080P). So as we are mainly viewing in 1080P the differences would be negligable, but the price differences are not. There are always differences in user experiences in any camera...for example I have had the GH4 for months now, and I have had no problems with the so called (Noisy Image) that some complain about (in the shadows and whatnot). Thats probably cause I have used it extensively and have done test after test and found the settings that worked for me, (opposite to what James Miller suggests)and I get a very clean and workable image, even when its slightly underexposed and at higher ISO's...so I am delighted. All in just over $2,000 for the Cam and the 12-35 lens, I could not have had this type of quality at this price a year or so ago...and I would not have it now if it were not for Panasonic, Sony and now Samsung, so kudos to those companies. I can definitely say I would not have that type of quality if Canon were still the major player for video in DSLR cams. So in that sense I agree with Andrew, I have no particular bias, we have 2 Canons as well and my son has a Canon for shooting surf vids, great cams (obviously not in the class of the 1DC cinema line) But hey a GH4 costs less than a 5DMk3 and as shooting videos is my main thing. then I would rather have a GH4 anyday... than a 5D Mk3 cause I for one care about detail, I can do whatever else I need to do in post if the camera delivers out of the box. My 2 cents

Andrew was the one pioneer that pushed the GH2 to us Canon users and made us all sit up and see the light! I remember watching some of Andrews hacked GH2 videos and thinking ....thats it my Canon is dead from now on . Im now on my 4th Panasonic camera having moved on from the GH2 which really did start the Panasonic video revolution for me and many others.

I shot on 5D for 3 years then because of Andrew and his GH2 work on this site I came over to EOSHD and wholely switched to Panasonic for all my work ,my Canons now only get used for a few stills.

If the T2i or T-rex from whatever era still floats your boat then fine. Nothing wrong with that. Some like the low-fi look! Sometimes so do I! But if the low-fi look was all we had... it would be very creatively limiting. No insane high ISO shoots like with the A7S which look so beautiful without requiring an Arri truck full of lights and a crew. No creative re-framing in post from 4K. No colour correction fun with raw (Canon still haven't officially ratified Magic Lantern's genius on that one). No stealth shooting bare bones with a built in EVF rather than a clunky loupe. No 120fps slow mo and no crisp details like we've enjoyed ever since the GH2 gave us proper 1080p and not line-skipped mush.   Creativity through technological innovation is a beautiful thing. DJI Inspire One - beautiful innovation. Blackmagic DaVinci Resolve - beautiful. Sony 12MP on a full frame sensor - incredible. Canon - just plain fucking boring. Good job there are some creative filmmakers around making so-so equipment look good purely through excellent story telling and lighting. But I want more than this. I want the technology to make new stuff possible that wasn't before. I want to tell a story with moon light or candle light. I want to tell a story with sequences at 120fps. I want to add drama and visual appeal. I just cannot do that with a Canon DSLR in the same way I can on other cameras for the same price.

Do you also have many leather-bound books and an apartment that smells of rich mahogany? C'mon, I've shot Alexa in Arriraw, RED Dragon, F65, and shot a lot of 35mm and 16mm. Commercials, TV and even films. I generally view 2k and 4k footage I've shot on calibrated monitors, and in some cases on cinema screens. But I'm not going to get into a pissing match about whether a $12,000 camera is better than a $1500 camera and try and prove to everybody that 'I'm kind of a big deal' because I'm not. Im a guy who shoots things and uses the best camera for the job. I also don't invest in expensive cameras because I prefer to choose the camera that suits the project, rather than get overzealous about the camera I have purchased, and force it on every project because I need to justify my purchase. I own an A7s because it's cheap and gives me a good picture. If I only shot corporate stuff, and shot it on a daily basis, maybe I'd invest in a camera - but I work regularly for many of the major production houses here, and very few own a camera. Many have invested in some lenses, but they rarely purchase their own camera, because even a production house that makes film or commercials every single day of the year knows that every production has different needs. The A7s isn't really toy feeling. Compared to an Alexa or Epic, maybe - but IMO, even Blackmagics (as well as most/all video SLRs) feel like (and sometimes perform like) toys, especially when you compare them to an Alexa or a 435, for example. The A7s has some of the best low light performance on the market. Sure, maybe it's a tad noisier than other cameras, but I'm yet to see a single other camera that can see in the dark like this one can! You can't even rate a RED higher than about 320ISO without getting unacceptable noise. I push my A7s to ISO3200 in Slog and I'm relatively happy - not like the Epic which I'm cautious of rating at 800, let alone any higher! Of course the Epic has other uses and features. I wouldn't use an A7s as my A cam on a high budget commercial. But man it gives a damn good image for such a cheap camera! Oh right, you mean unless you get the necessary adapter to put those lenses on the camera which contains electronic control... Also, I know you have 150 lenses - did you know that you actually don't need to buy every single lens on the market available for a camera to actually be able to shoot with it? I have 8 primes for my A7s that all up cost me much less than $5000-$10000! Suits me fine - I've never had autofocus, electronic iris or lens stabilisation when shooting with lenses on any actual cinema camera (I know - shock, horror!). Also, I've got a PL adapter for my A7s so I can put Master Primes on it if I wanted! I'd take an A7s with Master Primes over a 1Dc with Canon still glass any/every day of the week. The fact that a comparison doesn't exist does not mean the 1Dc is inherently better. It just means no-one has looked to see if it is or not. Man, you sure sound like a Canon fanboy. Kodak went down the same path. They failed to innovate with their cameras, and coasted along thinking they would be fine, and they failed! Kodak invented the digital camera, and in 2005 were the number 1 selling camera manufacturer in the US! But they failed to anticipate, failed to innovate, and look where they are now.

Actually most people who came initially to the site were interested in my Panasonic GH2 coverage. You have just reinforced your ignorance in the eyes of the entire forum. Congrats! Anyway... if the posts from now on contain a more constructive form of negativity, it'd make my day.

Which makes you perfect placed to comment on the enthusiast subject at hand. I've shot with the 1D C. Type EOSHD 1D C review into Google when you have a spare moment. Really? A7S not better in low light? Hmm. No I think you'll find the ergonomics suck as well. Perhaps the most unintuitive camera for video I've ever shot with. Does your Epic have AF? Thought not. There's a reason for that. You have your facts wrong. ALL the Canon, Tamron and Sigma lenses have f-stop control and IS via the Metabones adapter to Sony E-mount.   I have seen the A7S's 4K projected at Pinewood Studios. I can tell you what it looks like. It looks superb and it is full frame 4K not 1.3x crop on a 2 year old sensor aka 1D C.

I don't disrespect them. Well actually I do - threatening bloggers like Bloom and Reid with lawsuits left-right-and-centre for daring to voice a few negative opinions about their cameras is no way to earn respect from the public. But above I was just talking about my personal preference. I'm just not into anything about RED: I don't like the way their cameras look, I don't like their branding or media image, I don't like the Cult of Red, and though there's nothing "wrong" with the image from the Epic I've never been particularly taken with anything I've seen. I certainly wasn't talking about/comparing anything to the 5D3's h264 image at all, anywhere. I happen to quite like it for certain subjects, but I was talking specifically and exclusively about ML RAW above.

If Canon announced that they were withdrawing from the enthusiast stills camera market, you'd be surprised. It's a pretty big market. But withdraw from the enthusiast video market they almost certainly have at the moment, whether they meant to do or not. Read the full article here

In another topic about Canon's succes but failing to innovate, I wrote this post. I think it deserves it's own discussion. And it was pretty off-topic anyway. -------------------------------- Most people don't spend days and days on the internet and websites like EosHD to compare specs and numbers. They go crazy even thinking about it. They go to the nearest camera shop, ask for advice and try something out. Of course the seller says 'here is the Canon 7D, a great camera which we sell all the time'. The customer holds it (feels great!), trusts the brand and the seller, and walks out with the camera. Maybe he looks online for the best possible deal and have it send to him, but he's buying a 7D nonetheless. And that is why Canon is still market leader, and will be for a while. Why do big film studios sometimes use a 5D or a 7D, but never a Panasonic? Because they feel like a toy, have no reputation, different color science, etc. Canon is still the brand to get for everone who is not a nerd like us and spends much of their time on comparing camera's and specs. And the same goes for computers, TV's, car's, etc. People just want to buy something which feels good in the hand, looks good, has a good reputation and is recommended by others / sellers. And that is why people still buy overpriced iMacs, 5D's, Samsung TV's with digital sharpening and 200 hz modes, etc. But I will say once more, THAT IS PERFECT FOR US. Stop spreading the word! I tell you this is important! Some, like me, make money from shooting video's... Most of us, like me, coulnd't have started this business 10 years ago because of the crappy quality of affordable camera's and computers. Now, everyone with 2000 dollars / euro's to spare can buy a GH4 + lens, download Premiere from torrents, make a simple wordpress website and call himself 'film producer'. Everyday more and more 'competitors' join our market. And we all know that in 5-10 years there will be self composing, 10 bit 8K camera's with 20 stops DR that will focus themselves for 800 euro's in Wallmart... You know what this means for us 'professionals'? It means that you will have 10x more competitors than you have now. Throw some 'self editing software' in the mix and there you go, almost everyone becomes a video maker. Of course I am exaggerating, but I really believe we should all shut up and keep our secrets. I have learned a lot from the online community and I have given lots of knowledge back in the past, but I am not doing it anymore. I want my clients to look at my footage and say 'wow that looks better than the rest' and book me. And of course composition and editing have to do with it, but the camera plays a big part in it as well. So if you want to still make money in the (near) future, stop spreading the word about Sony and Panasonic. Stop talking about Filmconvert and explaining everything to people. Stop making easy tutorials for everyone to see. Do you want a future where everyone makes video's which are as good (looking) as yours? We are making it too easy for beginners like this. We are literally raising competitors which will hunt us in the future. I have stopped and I ask you to do the same. Praise Canon 5D's! Praise pricey software. Never give any tips and tricks for free. That is how you get rich.

You must have very low confidence in your own ability to come out with this stuff. My clients don't come to me because of my secret tools. They come to me because I put much emphasis into the ideas and for my very stylised, visual style. They come to me for MY vision and how I apply that vision. My tool selection is just an ingredient of that vision. People who work with me share information, talk to each other, borrow stuff, debate, exchange skills, ask for advice - because we are collaborators who have strengths and weaknesses, and we help each other to make better stuff. This is simple, basic networking - you never know who you will need in future! I have no issues writing a blog post telling the whole wide world of amateurs and professionals about my entire music video production structure - from style to logistics. I'll be happy sharing because they will never have the same vision as me, and most importantly they may have something to share too which I can learn from and apply. The secret sauce is your very self. Your ideas, your style, your personality, your skill, your results - it is this that clients buy. Have confidence in this and what everyone else is doing doesn't matter. If nobody shared, nobody cared ;)

Just finished today's deal: http://www.ebay.com/itm/161492966323

  Doug! It's $12,000! Not an enthusiast market camera! Hello! Do you read me!? DOUG!?

Redstan is selling one, with clamps etc... £480. At least you'll know that it comes from a good home & has been serviced to within an inch of its life - no brainer! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/fantastic-Kowa-Anamorphic-Lens-shooting-kit-by-redstan-/331396973305?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item4d28cc82f9

Never met a professional that hasn't been willing to help/give advice to someone with less experience. The ones that don't share are probably very insecure people & not worth bothering with. Anyways, no matter your experience, we are all learning all of the time. Wasn't it Coppola that said recently, if he doesn't come home from work having not learnt something new, its been a wasted day.

no 2 people have the same artistic vision - so I have no problem sharing on this forum which I do regularly - I'm sure if you gave 10 people the same camera and lens set up you would get 10 totally different results.... everytime. its not the gear its the person behind the gear that makes the differance.

If the only difference between you and the 15 year old kid whose parents jsut bought him his first camera is the camera itself, then I've got bad news for you. The reality is - tutorials and web videos can only teach you so much. Unless you have professional experience, understanding, and in most cases mentoring from professionals who are better than you - you're generally not going to get too far. I shoot on a number of different camera bodies. The look of my work comes down to the way I light things, not the camera bodies I use. If Roger Deakins shot on a C300 it would still look like it was shot by Roger Deakins. A newbie can buy an Alexa if they want, but nothing they shoot will look like it was shot by Deakins.

There is no extreme low light 4k camera on the market period! Unless you count the A7s recording to an external recorder, or maybe the C500. It's actually more like test driving an Volkswagen and an Audi and saying 'hey you know what, the VW has its quirks, but it's just as fast, just as nice to drive and costs like 1/10th of the price of the Audi!' Likening Canon to Ferrari is not helping your 'I'm not a fanboy' cause. A7s has APS-C crop mode - what's your point? The Otus' outperform CP2s and CN-Es, but they do not outperform Ultra or Master Primes, though the 55 and 85 are nice lenses. Fine, I'll put Cookes on it then if I have to :P Are you kidding? Have you not the comments on a single article about Apple ever? Maybe read them sometime and watch everyone bash Apple for all sorts of things (not the least of which being 'behind the curve'). Those who own Apple products tend to defend them. That's exactly my point. Personally, I own a lot of Apple products, and I like them. I like the way they work and I like what I can do with them. Now, I know that you can do just as much, and in some cases more on other devices. And on other devices that are much cheaper. But I like the way Apple works. I wouldn't start talking about what a big deal I am and how Apple products are better than every other product on the market if someone said to me that their PC that costs 1/2 the price can do more than my Apple computer. I would agree with them, because I know it to be true. I just prefer the Apple. You prefer Canon. That's totally fine - and if you are happy with your choice of camera, that's great. You don't need to defend it. But, there are cameras that are just as well specced, just as good (or better) for much less money. I'd be pretty pissed off too if I bought a camera for $12k and 2 years later a different company brought a camera just as specced for 1/10 the price. But that's another reason why it's silly to invest in an expensive camera unless you can totally pay it off on top of gaining an income for yourself in 12-18 months. The Sony F5. Oh wait, you were trying to be rhetorical. F5 costs the same as a C500. It's light, small (compared to many others) and gives an awesome picture at 2k or 4k at super high frame rates in a super-gradable 10-bit XAVC codec, which would have to be one of the most efficient codecs out there. You ever tried putting a C-series camera on your shoulder? No you haven't, because it's not possible to do unless you rig some ridiculous contraption. What about battery life? I regularly shoot with Alexa. I was on a music video shoot recently where we didn't have access to any power. It was an 8-hour shoot day and I was panicking because we only had 8 V-Lock batteries. I spent the day trying to conserve power as much as I could, and nabbed two block batteries from the rental house in case of an emergency power situation. Sometimes you can be lucky to get 30 minutes out of certain V-Locks. Power an on-board monitor from the RS port or D-Tap, and you'll struggle. Even RED is generally a swap out every hour or so. At least the A7 batteries are cheap. You're right - the Canons have better battery life. But if the difference between a $2500 body and a $13,000 body comes down to battery life... Oh, you mean the XLR input on the add-on 'box' that was specifically designed for the GH4? You mean the box specifically designed to add XLR inputs and SDI outputs? How? The FS700 has internal ND, XLR inputs, adaptable lens mount, viewfinder, cheap batteries, cheap cards, Slog... Ability to shoot 2k or 4k raw, super high frame rates.... I personally don't like the FS700 (in fact I really dislike it), but I also dislike the C-series cameras. You gotta say though, the FS700 is better specced for the same price. There's no feature you're giving up on, it's just that you like Canon better. That's totally fine - just say that rather than trying to suggest that there's no other camera on the market that's as good as it. There's so much hyperbole being thrown around everywhere. It's perfectly fine to have an opinion on a camera. A lot of people here are blinded by their investment, and that's human nature. But the fact that you own a different camera does not make it an objectively better camera than others out there. It may be better for you. That's great. You should pick cameras based on your needs and wants in a system. But it doesn't mean everyone else has identical needs or wants from a camera system, and it doesn't mean every other camera out there is worthless. At the very least stop throwing around ill-informed comments.

I have two answers. One is, there are secrets that are safe out there in the open. How to make a good film, be it a short narrative film or just a clip fragment, has nothing to do with an easy advice, and be it the best advice. Two, sadly, state-of-the-art gadgetry enables state-of-the-art junk. The pioneers of filmmaking with their primitive equipment (compared to which a 7D comes close to Trumbulls dream-computer-interface from Project Brainstorm) made better clips than most of us. A professional photographer went on a safari tour for a travel agency. He asked me for advice because he wanted to shoot video with his 5D as well and try to sell it for the client's homepage. I told him, capture moving motifs, don't move the camera too much. Vary the framing of your shots, that's important for interesting editing. It's almost like preparing a slideshow. He nodded, got it. He came back, disappointed. He made everything wrong. He used the wrong shutter. He panned a lot, at the wrong speeds. He asked me to edit it and to insert some stills where he hadn't got the shots right. I declined the offer.

  In my opinion it is completely the other way round to what you are describing :) They have an excellent marketing department. The 7D Mark II is not the best APS-C with unheard of specs at all. It's an old 70D in an old 5D Mark III body slightly rejigged and the AF updated.   The sensor is a generation behind Samsung's APS-C process. The manufacturing is behind.   The sensor cannot do 4K video. The Samsung one can.   Let's not mention the codec... that mushy codec, noisy at ISO 200 and a pale imitation of the raw sensor feed we all know it's capable of internally because of Magic Lantern. Mosquito noise at ISO 200... is that included in the "unheard of spec"!?   Resolution. Behind. Dynamic range. Behind. EVF, none. Proper timelapse mode, crippled. Continuous shooting rate, behind Samsung's 15fps. LCD, behind AMOLED. Peaking, none. H.265, none. 4K, none. 4K HDMI, none. 10bit HDMI! NONE! And then you blame the marketing department when it gets a bad reception with enthusiasts... pardon me, but this is just madness.

  Why the f*** are you here then? :)

Order and honored the discount. £560 to my door via FedEx in 3-5 business days. As soon as I get it, I'll try to get some test up. What does everyone want to see? @comurit Thank you so much for all the work and correspondence.

Great! Thanks for the clarification, Häns.

Yeah, the height adjustable lens support I linked to would screw into that mounting ring base with the 1/4 inch female thread, enabling rod attachment via the quick release clamp at the bottom of the support. There are a few cheaper fixed height versions of those supports/ rod bridges out there, but having the option to adjust the height might be needed for some setups where the camera height cannot easily be adjusted. (My 5dmk3 is in a wooden camera cage for example, which would need the FM lens to be compensated a bit higher when attached to rails).

How dare you talk to a man with so much expensive equipment in that way! He has paid good money to be superior to everyone here and he deserves our deference!

Exactly my point - there are much better video cameras in the same price bracket as the T3i without the problems of the Canon APS-C line. Panasonic G6, GM1, GX7, GH2, GH3; Nikon D5200, D3300, D5300; Sony a6000, a5100 I'm going to assume you're a defensive T3i owner? Your negativity may be better directed at Canon. I owned a T3i at one point - it's a nice camera, but moving to the G6 and D5300 made it look pretty grim.

I didn't even need to read the article or the forum responses as the answer is obviously yes. The only thing is, you got tense in the question wrong. It should have been: "DID cinema eos mark the end of canon dslr video in 2012?"

Of course you can express your opinion...just find it curious for someone to complain about the warranty on a product that they have already walked away from. yannis.zach, on 23 Nov 2014 - 1:50 PM, said: Okay Comurit, I'm just out of this and that's all guys. Sorry but I can't follow under these conditions P.s - My girlfriend is well secured in the loft AND the basement.

Err..the name was chosen when Canon were the flavour of the month. That's how most have come to this site. Maybe he should register anythingbuteoshd.com or something like that. These articles every month are getting quite lame. Some sound as if while remembering his ex (Canon) he has drunk a bottle of vodka and written a 'hate' letter (THE SENTIMENT)

A commonly available, easy to use, affordable, reliable camera. Oh the horror!!

"Does Cinema EOS mark the end of high spec Canon DSLR video?" If it does, why worry about it? They don't want to play in the market niche? No problem as I see it.

Video on a stills camera is an afterthought for Canon. 4k is not mass-market yet. It's not even enthusiast level. It's professional level. How many 4k televisions do you see at Walmart? How many methods of 4k delivery are there? 4k is at the present moment largely a capture format, not delivery format, and even in that regard it is by no means necessary. Most people that are buying stills cameras are buying them for their intended purpose: Taking still images. Losing 1% of their market because people chose a different stills camera for their video purposes isn't going to hurt Canon enough to make a difference. Nikon doesn't have any camera that shoots 4k, but how often do you see people taking a shit on them?

This is the camera guys i would get easily can fit on 6 guys back with no extra support

More likely is that Canon's market feedback & sales suggests that 95% of those enthusiasts purchasing a DSLR don't care two hoots about video as they are buying a camera to take still photographs.

I think we should be happy that 'the masses' are still buying Canon because it is 'the brand to get'. We, as enthusiasts and some even professionals, earn their living with shooting video's. I'm so happy that 80% of video shooters still shoot 720p on their Canon 7D / 5D. Why? Because my GH3 looks amazing compared to it. And my clients go 'ooeh' and 'aah' when they see my footage. Of course it is composition, grading, talent, etc. But the camera is also important. So I say, stop spreading the word about Canon camera's being shitty. You gain nothing from it, but you take the edge, of us video makers who spent lots of time selecting the best gear carefully, away. Buy Canon folks! Great reliable gear! Never had any problems with them! Furthermore, even though your articule is spot on Andrew, it accomplishes nothing. It's like asking Sony why they don't release a Mac Pro competitor for less money. Clearly there is no interest from Canon in this market. But also, they will still sell the most camera's for years and years to come. And you should buy a Canon, because they are great!

Canon are just good enough for the 'masses' - we are specialist camera nerds on this forum and have found all the better alternatives to Canon and how to squeeze every last drop out of them quality wise. People still walk into camera stores and online retailers and just buy a Canon because it has the brand reputation and changing ' the masses' to even think Panasonic or Sony let alone Samsung will still take time. We are all believers - the masses have to still follow us! There are still alot of Canon users on here who will not touch a mirrorless camera with an evf.

with niche items it takes a certain person to go ahead and actually develop and manufacture such things. There are a million ideas men, only 100 of them have the balls to put money into those ideas rather than sitting in an office with a manager dictating their success., and only 10 of those 100 have the ability to put everything in motion and actually deliver such items. We're a limited market and should be thankful someone is going through with this! Most people spend their money on new mobile phones and eating out / drinking themselves to death in order to forget their boring lives. If these things weren't being made, we'd be doing the same as the masses.