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Hi Guys, Yes, you are right. I am the developer of the Cinema 4K app. I have started this development, because of the limitations of the built in camera app. I have also tried other apps for 4K video recording, but at the end I decided to write my own. I have tested it on an LG G4 and Samsung Galaxy S6. On LG G4 the AE lock is not working and - because of the weaker CPU - the 4K recording sometimes drops frames when other apps are running in the background. On the Galaxy S6 there is no SD card option, however I could attach an external storage over OTA and configure the app to record there. Works good. Cinema 4K relies on the Camera2 API. This is quite new in Android and unfortunately not too many manufacturers implemented it on their phones. It also requires Lollipop (5.0) Android version. The Google Play Store automatically selects the available devices for download the app based on the OS. This might be the reason Note 3 is not listed. I will try to set this manually if possible. Thanks for starting this forum and your valuable feedback. I am planning to add some new features in the future, but at the same same time I would like to keep the app as simple as possible and not to overload. The main idea is to get the maximum quality from the camera and later on you can edit it on PC/Mac environment. Thanks and Best Regards, Gabor

I downloaded and brought Nick Driftwood's 10 bit V-Log L samples into Davinci and applied the Panasonic VLog_to_V709_forV35_ver100 LUT, and also the Arri Alexa LogC to Rec709 LUT. Created this album on imgur to make comparing them easier. http://imgur.com/a/FGcTr#0 My intent was to start looking into what LUT I will want to load into my monitor during production. Ultimately it will be a custom LUT but one of these will serve as the basis.

This GH4 V-Log L night test came up in my Vimeo feed. Shot at ISO 800 or below. Not mine... "We really tried to push the camera in the low light arena with the new v-log firmware. Shot in 4K - downconverted to 1080p" Voigtlander 17mm f0.95 Voigtlander 10.5mm f0.95 Canon 50mm f1.8

I've had my Sony A7s for a year now and within the week of getting it noticed that I had a hot pink dead pixel smack dab in the middle of my sensor..I noticed this while reviewing footage after a long day shooting a short... I was pretty upset but mostly just because my brand new camera had a dead pixel on literally the first thing I used it on After doing some digging I found that the camera doesn't have a setting to fix this like other cameras but you can force the camera to remap the sensor which will remove the dead pixel I made a quick video showing how to do so: https://youtu.be/LP1M7vZRwb0 I've known about this for a year now but just never got around to making a tutorial I've had atleast a dozen hot pixels so recommend doing this every time you are about to use the camera for a shoot Hope this helps somone

The VLOG LUT looks way better to me. Pinker, more natural skintones, subtler tones, and nicer color overall.

Where do you get the Vlog to V709 LUT? I think it actually looks more natural that the Alexa LUT. EDIT: Nevermind I found it on Panasonic's site.

*cough cough* PS: Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 (non-speedboosted Metabones adapter, though)

All three of them? The guy is obviously successful and very talented as a photographer (if a little pretentious) and I don't begrudge him his opinion, but I don't think he understands a lot about digital. He tells us not to complain about RAW compression with no adequate explanation, he claims he underexposes all his shots by up to one and a half stops (On digital? Why?), and he offers no insight into the sensor performance besides citing DXO. Also...a landscape photographer who hates using tripods? Weird. His statements about Nikon's PCE lenses being subpar makes no sense at all, considering they're among the best-performing lenses in the system. Yet he's impressed with the Sony Zeiss 24-70? Weird, weird, weird. The biggest problem is that besides not liking SLRs, I have no baseline for how this guy feels about other products and why, which makes it hard to contextualize his opinion. I realize I'm reviewing a review, so I'll just leave it at that.

Even though it isn't hailed as a great stills cameras, GH4 shoots some great stills as well, and therefore is a hybrid in every sense of the word. One doesn't need a Medium Format Camera to shoot film stills. 16 MP is more than sufficient for that purpose.

Assuming you're not under crazy deadlines, transcoding is your friend! I ttranscode my GH4 4K footage to Prores and I can edit on a late 2012 Mac Mini, it works great. Last time I built a computer from scratch I used an i7 4770 with a Gigabyte board and 16gb of RAM, with a GTX770, and that allowed me to edit my GH4 4K natively in Premiere. No such luck in Resolve, I'd peak out at 22 fps -- I read deep in the Blackmagic forums that to edit h.264 natively in Resolve you need to throw a ton of CPU cores, so I'd have to look at 6 core or 8 core CPUs for that to work. Personally I'd go the transcoding route, and use your $1000 budget on new hard drives (you'd need them!)

Hello! We cant carry our NX1s, GH4s and A7s with us all the time. For those who want a good 4k camera that you can carry all the time, thats the best solution that I have found. The best Android phones shoot 4k with a bitrate of aprox 48Mbps. They are not bad, but they have too much compression artifacts, contrast, saturation etc. A few days ago I found an amazing app, and I would like to share it with everyone. I have no bonds with the app developer, but im afraid he will give up his project if there is not enough support. Im pretty sure he can make things even better. What we have now with the app is: - Flat picture profile (It recovers a good amount of highlights and a little bit of shadows) - Better noise reduction (more like film grain. The stock one is very blocky) - 24 fps - 30 fps - 200Mbps!!! Thats the best part! Much better video quality. Less macro blocking, less banding etc, so you can recover more detail, grade the videos with the less problems etc. Frame grab from the Samsung Galaxy S6 stock camera - 4k at 50Mbps Frame grab from the Samsung Galaxy S6 using the app at 200 Mbps There is a lot of room for improvements, like more manual control, more control over the picture profile etc. But I do think that, at the moment, thats the best 4k camera that you can carry around all the time! Lets support the guy, so he can make it even better! The name of the app is CINEMA 4K, and its available for free at the play store! Make sure to update your phone to 5.1.1!!!

the gh4 had already earned my respect, but perhaps this confirms it and respect to all of you guys who do great work with this camera hell yeah

Thanks, part of that is really a benefit of being in front of someone with a low gear footprint. The EM5II, and a lot of other mirrorless cameras, are small and not intimidating, which is why I use them. For me, this is of high value when trying to relate to someone quickly, easily, and somewhat intimately. I'm not a guy that likes a lot of equipment on a shoot -- not for what I do most of the time. Personally, I don't get excited laying down dolly track, packing blankets, c-stands, lights...or playing with any of that sort of stuff. With the EM5II, I can even forgo a tripod. It's literally just a camera and a small wireless mic. So, for me and my experiences, I'd argue that IQ is not always the thing to consider when picking out a camera.

I'm quite digging the Varicam LUT though.

You can't complain about compression looking at a Vimeo upload. That's like complaining that your food is cold an hour after it was served to you.

Considering that it's lowlight , not too bad. Nothing that a little Neat Video can't clean up.

The B&L lens I owned before is not focusable. The focus ring is fake. I would say for the same price lens to me with similar size/weigh, ISCO HD attachment has 10 times better. There was a sample picture I posted before: http://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/8047-need-help-on-anamorphic-lens/

Lets just ignore all the incredible photographs he posted along with his review

So, Yesterday I went out and took the camera with me, just to try and film something that would probably be worth putting on, Heres some examples of what I shot, it was some random event going on (Wine), so I grabbed a few grapes footage, no landscapes yet. But this left me with a question, do you guys sell them graded, corrected or ungraded ? Is these even worth uploading ? Should I search around and see whats the demand from the people who buy stock footage ? I have absolutely no idea what sells and what doesnt.

I just wanted to throw in my two cents of experience with Andrew's Log Converter. I've shot a couple of little jobs with it and it's been absolutely great for me. I transcode my footage to Prores with the LUT applied, and in the latest version of Premiere I use Premiere's 1DC input LUT in the Basic panel (made by the SpeedLooks guys), and choose one of the built in LUTs (I like the Clean Punch HDR) in the Creative panel. That gets me rich, punchy colours, and great skin tones -- really, cleaning up skin tones is by far the best bit about the Log Converter. The other thing I like about the Log Converter is that I can shoot a pretty contrasty look in camera (using Andrew's in camera settings), so I get a good sense of what I'm looking at. I find it difficult to get the mojo going looking a flat flat images, and I love that I can see a punchy image on camera and know that I have a reasonable amount of flexibility in post. Below is a screenshot from a job where I used those settings (her skin is a bit red because she had red brick walls on both sides of her). Of course, Your Mileage May Vary, but for me it's a total winner. Thanks Andrew!

these videos are makin me feel impressed and also kinda mad

The supported phones should be the SG6 and SG6 Edge as well as the HTC M9. Atleast those are the once announced at MWC15, don't remember if there where others of the lesser known brands. This is good stuff. I've been swinging both Windows Phone and Android for a few years and the Lumias have always had manual controls and such built in. It's great that the Android is catching up and I can let other things than the camera be the deciding factor of witch to bring when I go places.

They can do similar bitrates and codecs. My phone is way behind in dynamic range because of the tiny sensor, even after raising the bitrate to very high levels. I have a feeling that the Samsung S6 Edge is a big step up just from playing with it in the store. This app is incompatible with my Oppo Find 7a; would of been nice to see what the flat profile could have squeezed out if it.

Holy shit this really shows how far technology has come already. That 'cinematic' holiday video looks fantastic. Stunning even, when you think about it. It's a bloody phone which most people carry in their pocket everyday. It's way more detailed than my Panasonic GH3. Much higher resolution, almost no aliasing... It's unbelievably good. The dynamic range doesn't even seem to be that much fewer either, maybe 2 stops at most. The only thing missing is depth of field and long lenses. If that could be digitally achieved, then everyone has a cinematic tool with them at hand. Exciting but scary at the same time for us videographers and cameramen.

I couldn't agree more. The difference between the 550D and 5D mark ii in video quality is negligible (except low light, obviously), and yet the price difference was huge. The 550D has the advantage of being much lighter and hence easier to carry around. Somewhere I think Panasonic did it's best to cripple the GM line, wherein the GM1 appeared very promising in low light, and so the GM5 could have been designed as a great low light as well as 4k shooter, with features similar to the GH4 (actually the G7), but with obviously poor battery life and no headphone monitoring. The form factor itself could have helped sell a lot of those. But Panasonic stunted the video features in that line.

Yup. Pretty much that list. Though tons of people must've started their way into DSLR video with the T2i/550D and then took full benefit from the Magic Lantern support. It belongs up there just as much as the 5DmkII that really started it all and the 7D. Way back when I was looking into a system, I opted for the hacked GH2 though. It had the nicer quality and I liked the compact approach with the cute but mean lenses. The BMPCC was something nobody really dared dreaming of, it made shooting gradeable cinematic images accessible to everybody, especially with the incredible summer price cut that started rumors of a successor being on the horizon (wasn't the case; a sick deal is all that was). I feel like the GH3 was just a placeholder before the GH4 really blew things up! With the GH4 the new legendary camera was born, only to really be rivaled by the 5DmkIII with ML RAW and the incredible A7S that picked up where the lowlight performance GH4 let down. Sure there's the GM1, GM5, GX7, GX8, G6, G7, but they are never going to achieve such legendary status. The D5200, D5300, D5500, A5100 and A6000 gave us pretty sweet 1080p, but never really excelled at something, never really getting that legendary status either. Good effort from Nikon on the D750, but not quite. The 5DmkIII was a fun refresh and ML RAW is pretty cool, but it's just a slight evolution, nothing revolutionary, not a legend. The 1DC came out strong, but was the price justified? It outclasses quite a bit of cameras, but the price was keeping it from being the people's camera. Olympus having the great 5-axis IBIS, but failing to give a useful video mode to the E-M1 shooters, then not deilvering on the promise of cinematic quality movies machine that goes by the name E-M5II. Going smaller, 1" sensor cameras stirred things up, but non of which in my eyes really owned it. The LX100 just about the only fixed zoomlens compact with large sensor I'd consider a hybrid legend perhaps. But just barely. When you're talking about legends it's a camera that really sets a news standard somehow, it has to have the certain x factor and popularity. Can't just slap the label 'legend' on every camera that's kinda pretty cool. Although it's not just about quality and epic features, it has to have character, has to invoke somekind of mentality change, the start of a path into something substantially new and being a legend, it really has to be idolized by a significant following. So, for me I would consider the 5DmkII - 7D & T2i/550D - GH2 - BMPCC - GH4 and A7S as such. I have a feeling the next ones could be the A6100/A7000 and GH5. It would be interesting to see if Samsung could find a way to give a NX2 some more traction and appeal.

I have a note 3. It says the device is not compatible. I wonder what all decide it is compatible with.

It would be this right here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.frozenvolcano.android.cinema4k . Maybe use a VPN, or even something like https://www.proxfree.com / https://www.hidemyass.com/proxy ?

Yep fair price. I guess if people think it's too expensive, they can always go off and buy another 4K internal LOG shooting interchangeable lens cinema camera for $1500. Oh wait...

Here is a new clip made by Cinema 4K app and Galaxy S6.

Grab a 15mm Lens or base support on eBay, then drill two holes in the riser plate to line up with the mounting holes on the square front. Then bolt together. This is what is in the picture you reference. I used central components from a base support by unscrewing the two additional plates. This gave me a adjustable plate with a square top and bottom and allowed me to fit perfectly under the squarefront. (Many stand alone lens supports have curved edge on top of the riser plate) The end result was virtually identical to QuickHitRecord's solution and worked perfectly to support the LOMO lump on 15mm rails. http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=361205775929&globalID=EBAY-GB

I'm not so sure about that. I just think they're not willing to be on the cutting edge of video specs, because they can't really devote serious resources and development to it. However, they can adopt the technology a little bit behind the curve. They seem about 2.5 years behind. So, eventually, they'll get there. Now, if your thing is to have the bestest and coolest video IQ from a consumer stills cam, then you'll always be drawn to those models offering it. I, however, tend to think that even median video IQ from 2015 cameras looks "good enough" already. If you're a competent shooter, you can make most cameras work for you. Here's an example: Last week I did a quick documentary style corporate shoot for 20K. I hired a guy that I know likes to trick out his GH4 and likes to run around with a bunch of grip stuff. Now, I did that not because I knew he was going to get wonderful footage, (I know his capabilities and that was expected anyway) but I needed him there so the set looked "professional." And it did. Big lens, matte box, c-stands, silks, reflectors, dead cats, audio harnesses, etc. Okay. So that put the client at ease. Their money was on display. Meanwhile, while he was doing all the A-Cam interview stuff and some misc B-roll, I was running around with a little EM5II grabbing shots non-stop. In the end, over 90% of the b-roll shots in the final edit are from the EM5II. Final delivery is for the web @720. Unless you're super-discriminating, you can't tell the difference in the edit between the EM5II footage and the GH4 footage. As a casual viewer you're just not really going to see it. So this is how I view the whole camera IQ debate. What I can do practically matters. I think I've come to terms with the fact that many people will always chase the technical holy grail with IQ, but my focus with many of my jobs (and my philosophy on how to approach those jobs) lies elsewhere. And let's not loose sight of the fact that in 5-7 years we're all going to have robust DR, great low light capability, and 4K. Sure, there will ALWAYS be superior IQ devices, but even if you have that capability, what are you going to do with it? I DO get excited to shoot with awesome cameras, love being blown away with great images when I rent pro camera gear, and I know they are an absolute necessity for certain productions. But not for all. Not for your cat videos --or cityscape videos set to emo music. At a certain point when are we all just arguing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? I mean, even this lowly Oly camera has better IQ than the greatest auteurs of the mid 20th century had access to during most of their careers, so I say the tools are great and wonderful, just go use them effectively and you'll be happy. Finally, as a camera manufacturer, nobody can outdo Fuji when it comes to offering lousy video in their stills cams. They set the bar so low that it's unacceptable even for me!

Well, here's a very simple shoot as an example. I did this for a friend over the weekend on a moments notice. It was basically a 1 hour shoot. I grabbed shots as fast as possible. Sure, I could have placed a tripod in a lot of spots and had the subject wait for me to compose... Or I could have let her do her thing and I would just follow, and still get cool shots along the way. With the EM5II, I just did the latter Slider shots without a rig, static shots without a tripod...it's a very nice capability to have. Granted, this isn't groundbreaking stuff, but this particular camera does give me some worthwhile footage. I don't know what else to say. It's fun for me. That's all

Not all 5.1.1 ROMs support Camera2 API, which I presume this app uses. Many of the features you mentioned likely require the ROM to have that API implemented.

I'm not sure why people are getting so defensive about what is a pretty apparent weakness with long exposures on the A7R II. It's to be expected with tons of pixels and poor heat dissipation. Does it render the camera unusable or condemn it to the junk bin? No. But it should be acknowledged and explored. Even if it turns out to be bad processing or poor exposure, we'll at least learn how and why the A7R II files fall apart.

Look at the bright side, it's gonna be a great 'feature' when Christmas comes around.

I returned mine. Too many flaws for reliable professional use. Of course this is just my opinion and some folks will go out to do wonderful things with this camera. I've come to believe that Canon is being a lot more serious about their hardware. They don't care about hype, they care about producing professional tools, while Sony seems to have in interest in dominating the consumer market with "rushed-to-market" bombs that blow away the competition on paper only. I'm waiting for the 5d IV or a used 1Dc for 3500 Euros

You know what guys, either I am going mad or I am starting to see why Canon held off on significant improvements to video like 4K on their consumer DSLRs so far. If landscape photography with a long exposure suffered due to heat, Canon would lose half their customers.