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I've actually been thinking the same thing, sort of. I pre-ordered the URSA Mini 4.6k just to get in the queue, with the intention of purchasing if early reviews and a rental test were up to scratch. There's quite a shift in my business at the moment towards commercial & corporate work due to the diminishing funds in music, where music video budgets are in great decline. The URSA Mini 4.6k is going to have an amazing, cinematic image - but there are many benefits to the FS5 that can't be ignored (ND's, 240fps slow motion, reliability, size). I've got a bunch of DSLR sized gear here (sliders, gimbal tripod) that I couldn't use with the URSA Mini 4.6k. The FS5 would fit all of it. Now the Sony image.... I've been shooting on Sony much more than any other brand because of the HFR. Music videos need it. However, I've never loved any of the images. I used a C300 at the weekend on a viral and it speaks volumes how much better the colour rendition on the Canon is compared to Sony. It's softer sure! But overall much more pleasing. Much much more. So for me, I'd have to work much harder with FS5 images and make them sing. It would probably be the better camera to buy that adapts my business model. I'd have to swallow my zest for beautiful Blackmagic images and stick with Sony. But that's not what I want to do. It's sort of personal. The BM image is a massive deal. Massive. As for the A7S II - I'd use this as an A-cam on a very low budget shoot and as a B-cam on others. From all the cameras here - the FS5 is the best option to fit all purposes. But it's not the sexiest.

I would first like to qualify the comments that follow by saying that I really appreciate your reviews and insights, they are informed and very valuable and I always look forward to reading them. That said, I can not help but notice that what was categorised as a "minor quibble" in your a7s review 15 months ago is now called "pixel-binned mush with moire and false colour". I quote this not as a criticism of your comments, but rather as proof that I feel that Sony has already become a victim of its own success. Maybe it should put the brakes on the incredible pace of its camera development, because what was "the best sensor I have ever shot on" last year is so quickly superseded. Given the incredibly rapid advances in technology that Sony can bring to market, it really is a very important question for professionals and enthusiasts alike as to whether we should keep upgrading or hold on to what we have. For years we had the same thing with stills photography and the sensor resolution "arms race". Thankfully common sense is just starting to prevail. Perhaps we need a similar reality-check with video? After all, how many people buying video-capable cameras really do need to shoot 4k professionally? For me personally, my a7s mark one will serve me well for years to come, and I relish the opportunity in the very near future to pick up a backup body at a bargain knock down price!

This is in response to Rich's 50mm internal lens glare flare fest a few days ago. Quick & dirty - not the best as I couldn't find my really strong torch, so the iPhone's had to do. Messed a few up, but was multi-tasking or should that be working whilst doing this - so might have to have another go or do a comparison with other non-MC anamorphics. The real surprise was a lens that I only use for photos & have never used before with the 54 - couldn't f**king believe my eyes!

New Leica SL announced. Mirorless similar to A7S but : 24mpx > A7S II 4K internally and 10 bit 4:2:2 output !!!! > A7x 120FPS in FHD with full frame sensor (no crop like A7SII) > A7x(if it is clean) World fastest AF > A7x Touch screen > A7x 4.4MP EVF with 0.8x magn > A7x 11 FPS for stills > A7x If it were not for the price... I would buy it. Of course this are specs and it might be that the image is way less good than A7S II. Leica SL camera tests and reviews: Test by Jono Slack on L-camera-forum. Official Leica SL site by Leica. Hands-on by TheVideoMode. Preview at TheVerge. Hands-on at Dpreview. Reviews at Reidreviews (for subscribers only). French review at Lesnumeriques. First look at Amateur Photographer. Hands-on at Digitalphotopro. Leica SL image samples: Dpreview. Lesnumeriques (Scroll down). Leica SL videos: New camera at a glance (Leica Forum). Hands-on video by TheVideoMode. 4K video sample by Lesnumeriques. Italian intorduction by Pmstudionews.

Of course Leica are known for an "X factor", but that was back when someone else made the film and you could change it every roll. now the "film" is fixed, albeit still made by someone else: it's sensor and associated hardware and firmware. It will become obsolete, while an M1 can still be used with any film. that alone makes it hard to justify the prices.

V-Log is a Panasonic 'brand' - that it has it at all is a clear sign of Panasonic's involvement.

it says on dpreview that its got v-log L curve for movie mode

full size hdmi! huge body, i love the styling and size. I wonder if the sensor glass is thinner so it works well with their premium M mount lenses via adaptor?

I don't know, seems like there will be a lot to leica bout it B)

I am not sure about that... Leica SL is clearly aimed at people that already have a LEICA S and were looking into something smaller . But really, this is a capable camera aimed at LEICA buyers.

Leica SL has a log curve mode for video. It has also more features than A7S II (24mpx, 11fps, 10 bit output, weather sealing, 120fps without crop, ...)

Forgive your lighting? Why? It looks like you know what you're doing. From what I've found, much like music, what you take away is as important as what you do. The space between the notes. Those that know what to "hear" are ahead of the game.

It can't record 4K in crop mode Doug... Greyed out in the menus when mode dial set to movie, and if you enable it in stills mode - yes the live view will show the crop but hit record (when set to 4K XAVC-S) and crop mode will deactivate and you will get full frame. 120fps is an NTSC frame rate. It does 100fps in PAL. You can choose which is best. 120fps will give more flicker and banding with European light sources! I am not sure why you're not seeing 25fps in 4K... it does work. Switch to PAL in the menus Doug. That's what the A7S did over HDMI. Internally on A7S II, I repeat - it does NOT do 4K with APS-C crop. Sony disabled it. No upscaling. Quality not good enough. If you want to use APS-C lenses or Speed Booster you will need to get the A7R II or try the HDMI... I haven't yet but will do soon to the Odyssey.

Yeah. Most online sites have either serious trolling, or serious bullying, or are overly moderated by some old school idiots.

Everyone is welcome here. That's why I like this place (after I got banned from two sites recently)

I speak reasonably fluent German, apart from a host of other languages I stayed in Europe for a few years). But let's not speak in local languages. Let's stick to English. I saw some local chit-chatting in another thread. English Only.

Simple grade done, on the couple near the traffic light in AE with the ColorFinesse plugin. Same grade applied to the other parts.

The coal mines were part of the reason in the US we have worker's rights. One evil doesn't justify the other - all I'm saying is to ask people not to support companies that abuse their workers.

Do check (google) because I do remember that the very widest of those C-mount lenses vignettes on the BMPCC - think 20 should be fine, but double check to be certain.

I'm still waiting for the first example of a truly natural grade from the A7sii s-log3. All the graded footage so far looks like the instagram-filter s-log footage I really dislike (ymmv). For me the natural look is the acid test of a camera's capabilities. Washed out artistic grades hide a multitude of sins.

Just did a long 4K recording run to test for overheating. Inconclusive as the battery died at 28mins Will try again tonight.

Hey Everyone, Last month I finished editing my last job with my T3i (since then i've upgraded to the Nx1), most of my jobs are weddings, even though I like doing some of them, I'm burnt from having quite a few this summer. So I've been doing some tests lately with Luts and finally decided to grade a job with it, I very much liked the end result, got a "cinematic" feel, but theres always room for improvement, so I'd like to know what you guys think of the video in general (editting, grading, filming and so on). Password : Memoryshop Thank you guys