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Dear people. Shot this musicvideo for a friend when is was in US. Enjoy

The camera which Panasonic can't decide what to call (GX80 in Europe, GX85 in the US and GX7 Mark II in Japan!) really excites me. It's the first time that anyone has put 5 axis in-body stabilisation in a 4K camera which exceeds the performance of the stunningly good Olympus 5 axis system. It's not quite as effective as a gimbal for sweeping handheld movement, but that pain-in-the-ass tripod you can certainly dispense with now, along with that Olympus 1080p mush too!! GRAB A CUP OF TEA, PUT DOWN YOUR F***ING IPHONE AND READ THE LONG ARTICLE!!

I for one enjoy hearing people try to assign what is and isn't art. Makes it easy to weed out whose opinion I should care about.

The Blackmagic Video Assist as well as the newer Atomos Flame and Inferno series. We're working on making the HDMI recording functionality more compatible with recorders. False color works on the raw data to let you know when your first channel clips. Because the D16 doesn't do any internal highlight recovery or noise reduction, we thought it'd be good to know this. This means that you have anywhere from 1/2 to 2/3 of a stop more highlight range in the raw file than you'd get over HDMI. So In raw at 800 ISO you're gonna see close to six stops of overexposure range, but in the HDMI you're gonna see around 5 1/3. I will ask about being able to separate the LCD from HDMI. Our goal is to make the current camera as best as it can be before we start trying to sell people a new one.

I'm very happy with EOSHD being about gear, it's good to specialise and to have a niche to focus on. I love the tech, always will. From my own experience, I'm just not sure how much real value can be had from online articles about the art of filmmaking, it's something you're best off learning by actually doing it rather than reading about it. NoFilmSchool built a mainstream audience that transcended the gear community by mentioning Kubrick and PT Anderson a lot in clickbate headlines - the content was ALWAYS stolen and by someone else - the aggregation of material in a massive way. Poor original content creators make nothing from exposure at all whilst the aggregators gobble up ALL the traffic and sell ads around it, in the case of NFS they even had US venture capitalists funding huge online advertising campaigns, expert SEO and very very large social media followings acquired the non-organic way, I don't even consider them as competition to EOSHD any more, they are something different and I'd never go to them for camera advice or for a singular voice. The whole site may as well be computer generated. Despite my temporary loss of appetite for blogging and the need to get some inspiration back in my filmmaking by moving out of Berlin, EOSHD is very strong at the moment, the forum has never been busier, the cameras have never been better and the visitor numbers are still as good as ever. Don't forget, we were first or one of the very first blogs to capture the community. That's why it was such a shame that the cat man Philip Bloom stopped blogging, I really miss his longer posts outside all the social media stuff. I didn't go back to the site at all when he stopped (apart from his very occasional reviews) because his forum didn't pull me in like it does here, there's still plenty to read on EOSHD when I am away. I think the forum could go on the front page actually with the best topics in the sidebar. It's a superb resource! The internet has changed though. People's reading habits and viewing habits are changing. Some movie trailers even now have 8 second trailers for the trailer, because of Facebook. There is definitely a race to the bottom going on in the content world. There's going to be some big victims too. First one might be Twitter.... it now has such a low engagement per post because the feed is a mess and each tweet it like a grain of sand in the beach, significant stuff is so easy to miss on there, even whole conversations. Personally I won't be focussing much on that from now on. I think Twitter is going to get sidelined by a lot of people and will eventually be superseded by an alternative. Facebook is a monster, it will continue to hoover up half the entire internet and make it worse. Already there are very active camera discussion groups on there... why people would use them over a proper forum I have no idea... it's so viral though because of the newsfeed and sharing element. The danger is that Facebook ends up siphoning off a ton of traffic from the better independent sites and selling ads around them, just like NoFilmSchool does, as the main 'go to' source for discussions and news Philip Bloom is now much bigger on social media than he is on his blog... in fact blogs are being hoovered up by YouTube and Facebook. He has a massively high profile on Facebook and Instagram with very regular posts and I only ever update the EOSHD Facebook page when there's a new blog post - I think that needs to change. There's a ton of stuff I'm doing behind the scenes which could go on social media but I'm not enough of a narcissist to really take it to the next level So if forums will be superseded by Facebook groups and blogs superseded by YouTube channels and Facebook and news aggregators, it will be a real loss for the internet because there won't be a motivation for anyone to create long-form original content any more or proper communities like this one, it will ALL be about 8 second trailers for trailers, gimmicks, clickbate headlines and trolling. Very sad direction for the internet in my opinion. The thing I am most proud of over the past 5 years of EOSHD are the regular readers and the EOSHD Shooter's Guides. I get a bundle of inspiration from people and I try to put some back into the pool too. I will get my inspiration back soon enough and EOSHD will have a bigger presence on YouTube and Facebook and Instagram. Thanks to those in the thread who have posted messages of support! Means a lot and really does get the fire burning again.

No - as I said, I want YOU to tell me. Yeah, I love that girl, I hope that shines through. I just had the camera in the 8sinn cage, a zacuto zamerian magic arm (short one), black magic videoassist.

It would be nice if this blog/forum became a place for hobbyists like myself to discuss the art of making a good film/video rather than a place where people bicker over gear choices. I know there's a subforum for that here already but to post there would be like posting in the Video forum at DPReview. If you're tired of gear, why not shift the focus to what you can do with it?

Here is a video of my first weekend out with the GX80. Yeah, it isn't that artistic, and it features some ducks, but it is the type of stuff I shoot and I think it shows a bit how it performs hand-held run-and-gun. All the shots were using Natural 0,-3,-4,0 at 4k/25fps except for some of the duck shots that were 1080p/50fps as I was playing with the ETC. The playground and beach/kite surfer shots were using the Olympus 9-18. I was kicking myself for not having a telephoto zoom once I saw the surfers out there. I cropped in once or twice just to see how it would look. The duck/hospital shots were all using the Panasonic 35-100/2.8. (Jitter finally gone!) The pier and park shots were with the Panasonic 12-35/2.8. I really like the colour and the picture that this camera produces and the skin tones are not all funky like with my LX100 (although I need to do some more testing). I only adjusted exposure before uploading, but I checked some of the skin tones with a vectorscope and they looked pretty good. I just used sunny or cloudy white balance when filming. You can see the stabilisation challenges (wobble) when I was doing more ambitious movements with the 9-18 lens, but I think overall steadiness with the Panasonic OIS zooms, including panning works really good. I need tai chi training from @fuzzynormal to reproduce what he does with his EM-5. My Olympus cameras are going on eBay as soon as I finish something I'm working on and I'll probably sell my G7 too as I like the smaller size of the GX80. I still haven't decided if I'll sell my LX100. I love the little LX100 zoom lens and it is a great pocket/travel camera but I'm not sure about some of the funky colour. I think that @Inazuma had a good idea of using the pancake 12-32 zoom with the 20mm/1.7 pancake for travel. Just not sure how the zoom with work without manual focus. I do use back button AF-S a fair bit - especially when chasing my kids. This works while recording on the GX80/G7 but not on the LX100.

In terms of subject isolation, the lens would, in fact, still be a f1.2 FF equivalent, no? Well the GH4 was $1700 when it came out, so assuming the GH5 will be the same, it is significantly more. And if you're like me and could care less about 4k60, don't want something as big as the GH4, its definitely worth the savings. Thats like saying, "Why buy that Toyota? For a little more than double the money you could get the Lexus". Having already bought the GX85, I'm not waiting (with my D750 in tow- another reason I can't spend $1700+ on a second camera). You should be shooting your video in manual. AF for video is for grandparents shooting clips of their grandkids on their iPhones.

I'm exited to hear qualifications needed to be a music video. And the other thing was so obvious that I just left it out. Your criticism is boring.

No one else has said it, so I will... This is NOT a music video. It is a series of random clips with some background music. And the two are not the same. Frankly, it looks more like vacation footage.

Wow, gorgeous work. I know you were shooting natural light and it works for most of the video, but I would have loved to see some fill added at 2:41 and 2:47. Other than that, great stuff.

The manual is a bit badly worded. The in-body stabilisation is 5 axis. You can also choose to use the hybrid electronic stabilisation in video mode. That's 5 axis too. You should not bother. The Dual IS is 5 axis - 3 axis on the sensor and 2 axis on the lens. Either way no matter what mode you're in... one will get full 5 axis stabilisation on the GX85, just like you do on an Olympus body.

I know that the EU version have the (stupid) 30 mins record limitation, but it is PAL locked (25/50 fps) or it could be switched to NTSC (24 / 30 / 60 fps)? I will be in Barcelona next month and would like to get one, but if the region is locked, no game. :/

All done ... thanks again for your work on this !! @vasile BTW ... quoting on this board seems to be broken. I tried to quote Vasile's remark above and instead it quotes my comment 4-5 posts above @Andrew Reid

AF focus point selection key does it when you're in manual focus mode or have a manual focus lens attached. However it first throws up the size of the box to be magnified. A press of the rear dial inward gives you a direct punch-in. And by the way, it's very good quality. Refreshing coming from a Sony!

It's funny as I was thinking this just the order day. Even as a producer of the medium itself, I have come to hate how video is used as a learning/tutorial/review tool. I can buzz through a text tutorial and get right to the problem I am trying to solve. How do I know what sound the Phantom makes after the firmware has been updated? With a text article, I can Google/control-f right to my answer. 2 seconds and done, it's there or it's not. With video, I find nothing but 20 minute firmware update video that spend the first 5 minutes explaining how to unzip a freaking zip file and have to guess click around until I find what I want, if it is even there in the first place. Or with a lens review, I might just want to see how bokeh renders in high contrast areas, not sit through a stupid 2 minute intro for your channel personality or a total of 3 minutes of footage cut in between 17 minutes of your ugly mug. With a longform text article, I can breeze by everything and get right to what I'm looking for. I can consume the content at the pace I desire. That's why I've always gone to EOSHD at least, in the way reviews were well outlined and presented, and also how it seems to stay away from the Buzzfeed/clickbait style headlines that fill up almost every other site out there.

What do you expect for a quick'n'dirty camera test? Oscar nominee film or perhaps a cat video? I can go to shoot cat video at any time just for your camera image quality assesment purpose and cat entertainment pleasure, but this camera will be completely obsolete at the time I would win oscar or even complete the documentary film we are working on as shooting the trailer already took a year, and on the other hand our cats are not ordinary domestic cats, they are Savannah-cats. We have a Savannah-cattery. Northernwilds Avi in the picture is our queen. 6000 dollar camera for 6000 dollar cat is not worth it?

That film is damned talented, a great find, pressing all the right emotional buttons with just images and sound alone, no words, just really nice audio/visual poetry. Loved it. The Digital Bolex also has one of the most 'emotional' images in the same sense... incredible colour, dynamic range and a sensor size perfectly matched to pre-1980's Super 16mm vintage lenses. I just wish the D16 cost $999 and was available in great quantity... but that in a way is not the point of it. It is a camera that has a habit of getting into a disproportionately high number of talented hands, which means they're building a really special community around it. Also, it's one of the few cameras you can shoot jerky handheld footage with and it still looks great, for whatever reason - the CCD and global shutter having a hand in that magic motion candace of course.

Hey Michal. I am glad someone has noticed this. I have all the rumors sites in my news feed and I visit some of the other blogs, the truth is these are majorly demotivating for me. It seems the general direction of the internet is going away from long form reviews and articles, into quickly thrown up deals and clickbate, along 2-3 minute quickly knocked up youtube video which are nice to have on in the background as you have a cup of tea in the morning, but contain very little actual useful information. If all the attention is going into the wrong content, so what motivation do I have to carry on with EOSHD? There's still some great stuff out there but it's few and far between, and getting worse. So I actually share your depression with the state of affairs. EOSHD articles I used to do are almost unviable today... the formula is broken... the amount of effort required versus the lack of reward in putting so much information out there for free. Geez. Thanks for the support... not. Facebook and Instagram content is where it's at, sadly. A finger swipe, 2 seconds, next. In the end the audience will regret allowing the internet to dissolve into a trivial social network where appearances are valued above substance.

To play devil's advocate... They probably don't want a bunch of bricked cameras to deal with, customer service wise. Also, the hack may have alerted them to security issues that could lead competitors to see their code and ideas. Thankfully, I didn't update.... So hack away folks, hack away.

I don't really know, but today I charged around 9 LP-E6s (don't know if they were all completely empty), and it's still got 1/4 of it's charge left. So it's more than enough as a backup.

Yeah, it is. The sensor is from the same family as the D16's. Never had the pleasure of shooting with one, but it makes some very nice images. This music video by one of the artists I follow was shot on the ikonoskop as well.

The Micro makes shooting fun. Very happy with it. This was shot earlier today at 59.94fps with my niece who was on pooper scooper duty. password: micro

Kaylee, I tried to like your post. unfortunately, I've hit my like limit for the day!

The 1DX II can shoot very flat with either Cinestyle or a custom PP as I created here: You can edit this profile I created to match Cinestyle, for example add slightly more boost to the shadows, lower saturation, perhaps remove my red and yellow saturation pulls, etc. Getting 0-255 with the gamma curve editor is tricky: both mine and Cinestyle start above 0, so the resulting curve doesn't go 'crazy' (a Bezier curve continuity thing). Mine also drops the max value to less than 255 (could be 16-235-ish). Definitely both my custom profile and Cinestyle raise shadows enough to see noise, and significantly pull highlights to reduce clipping. In my brief tests with CLog on the C300 II, highlights still clipped harshly. Only when using Canon Log 2 did highlight clipping reduce significantly. Super flat profiles work best with 10- or more bits. I see material ranging from TV/Netflix/AppleTV/AmazonPrime to movies where highlights are blown out- this happens even on the Alexa (though the transition tends to be nicer). The average viewer will never notice, and most film people focussed on story (and profit) could care less. "Our profits are down because the film's highlights weren't quite as smooth as <insert camera here>" is highly unlikely to ever be said in the real world. Since the 1DX II is so clean in the shadows, as seen in Andree Markefor's video on this page, if we expose -1 EV (1 stop down), and use HTP and a custom flat profile, we can easily boost shadows +1EV in post without a major noise issue. Thus I don't see an issue with CLog not being available on the 1DX II vs. the 1DC. Note we shoot +1.7-2 EV on the A7S II to get the best results with SLog2. A minor issue is that -1 EV may be a little harder to see, however most people using the 1DX II will be using the amazing PDAF for focusing. I would expect a 1DC II to have 10-bit and Canon Log 2, otherwise I don't see the value if the only difference is Clog (and still 8-bit). 1DC vs. 1DX II is a no brainer: 1DX II (since it can match CLog by using a custom flat profile + HTP + -1 EV exposure). That is if shooting 4K. 1080p is fairly crude by comparison (but fine for online delivery and perhaps 'B' shots).

i goggled "music video" and this came up. director is some guy named paul thomas anderson. doesnt seem to match your formula. first time director maybe? clearly not a "pro"

Here's one of my results with the RX10 II and Davinci Resolve 12 (Win64). ******************************* Source: 4K Slog2. Colour graded (with LUT) and exported to h264 1080p (15.000 kbps). ******************************* For the audio, I used a RODE Stereo Videomic Pro. It records LPCM automatically, which is quite interesting. The camera also seems to automatically adjust the audio level. I did some 4K exports before, but as it's mpeg4 (the free version won't allow me to export 4K in h264), the blacks are simply awful on YouTube and nothing like what I saw on Resolve's preview. Exporting to h264 yields correct blacks, so I decided to stick with 1080p. It's a shame, because watching the files (even the YouTube downloaded versions) back on MPC-HC, the picture seems quite good to my taste. ******************************* Exposure settings: 25 fps - 1/50s - ISO 3200 (+2.0 E.V. showing on the viewfinder). I found that the MPC-HC is the best player to play these files back (compared to what's seen on Resolve's preview window). P.S.: YouTube degrades the IQ quite a bit.

Premiere defaults to sRGB which is brighter than BT.709. Adobe also has a default curve it uses before conversion to sRGB if I remember correctly. BMD Film also has a relatively low middle gray point and black point at 392 and 36 respectively on a 10b scale. So BMD Film's middle gray is actually lower than sRGB and BT.709. Also, because each program uses different methods to do color conversions, you'll find that each program can produce a different results. Adobe uses the DNG SDK while Resolve uses libraw which is based on dcraw. DNGs are not like ARRIRAW, Sony RAW, or REDCODE. All of those have specific SDKs and using those are the only way you can process those raw files. In order to use a different method, you'd have to reverse engineer the formats. But since the DNG/TIFF is an open standard it's not hard for programmers to put together their own processing pipeline. It just comes down to programmers using different methods to process the same data.

It's hard to find aftermarket batteries without mixed reviews. But I've got 6 "Chillipower" bats and they all work fine... http://www.amazon.com/ChiliPower-2600mAh-Battery-2-Pack-Charger/dp/B00HRXSJG0/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1463770511&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=chillipower When it comes to chargers I love these little guys, small and quite fast... http://www.amazon.com/Newmowa-Charger-Canon-LP-E6-LP-E6N/dp/B00QGJ91A4/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1463770745&sr=8-9&keywords=newmowa You can buy a cheap external battery and charge your LP-E6s anywhere... http://www.amazon.com/EC-Technology-22400mAh-External-Smartphones/dp/B00GBTX1S2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463770936&sr=8-1&keywords=external+battery+ec+technology

I bet you were that button smashing friend that always played as Eddie gordo in Tekken. Also, nice work op, I enjoyed the music vid!

It was all shot in 4k and downscaled to 1080p (except for some of the duck shots where I was experimenting with Electronic Tele Converter 2x 1080p crop @50fps). The wobble is the stabilisation which is more pronounced with the IBIS-only (compared to the dual-IS). Well, it isn't a problem with the stabilisation which does a fantastic job on getting rid of hand shake and also allows some nice panning. It is more a problem with me moving with the camera and making changes in direction or velocity or moving a little too sudden. The stabilisation tries to "catch up" or compensate and you get the distortion. I haven't done any moving shot comparisons between my E-M5II and the GX80, but I might try to do so this weekend if I have some time.

Thanks to the guys who got it. It is the official video for the song. We wanted to create something very authentic hence the excessive use of camera shake and "home-video" feel. I'm not a fan of performance videos. I know them and I have done several. This is one.

I'd put this in the same category as the music video for "Smack My Bitch Up" -- shot from someone's POV, content is its own rhythmic animal, and the band is nowhere to be found.

One of the biggest issues with sharing great content is that it's much harder to do now on social media because the platforms have been monetised. You need an "advertising" budget so you can pay to boost posts that would otherwise not be seen by the majority of your followers and others. Alongside all the random clips of women slapping their ass, gifs, auto-play drunk people videos, cheesy meme's etc... the content you share gets over-saturated by all the other bollocks around it. Social media is SO distracting that when you are trying to find something useful, you end up going off on this great tangent where you end up watching a funny cats compilation instead. This is because we are bombarded by endless bollocks and the good content gets covered in shit. When I first started my video business, Facebook was a massive client stream for me. Everyone could see my content and I got bookings. I even had a weird fan club. Since the platform has become monetised... the only people that see my videos now is my mother. SEO is so over-saturated it's hardly worth bothering with on a limited budget, so I've had to reinvent my entire plan COMPLETELY just so I can adapt to this crazy online world. I have to be MUCH MORE than just a video producer. You have to be on top of everything. And most of it isn't even online - it's what you do in person. EOSHD has always been great place to post and read stuff. I've always had the ideas and drive to create. But I remember forcing myself to learn about as much video techie stuff as possible, and read forum posts over and over thinking "what on earth is this 10 bit 422 thing people are on about?" Second nature now. You can evolve the platform of EOSHD for sure. I'd definitely work on your shooters guides and LUTs and make an online store or something, with relevant articles and the forum. Get different members around the globe to make a themed video using the latest mirrorless camera, with your shooters guides and LUTS... put it together as one video and promote it. Make your video community as one that works together to create stuff FOR the video community. Allow users to upload their own tips/techniques/LUTS... create an online bible of everything you need for every enthusiast camera and the best lenses/devices. Every enthusiast camera has it's own EOSHD store and user resource!! Does that make sense? I wouldn't be afraid of making money the commercial way from EOSHD. Fuck it. There's no harm in it. You are spending your time helping the video community and you should be rewarded financially for your hard work. No need for gear adverts. Just yourself asking for money for your material. Like you do now but on STEROIDS. I would also re-brand. In all due respect, I think the name EOSHD and the logo now looks rather dated. I know shitloads of logo and brand designers, if you ever feel you need it.

Anything that is edited to be entertainment is all about timing and rhythm. Doesn't even have to be music related. I thought he did a good job of pacing and holding shots for a pleasing amount of time.

Everyone has their own opinion on 3rd party parties, but when it comes to relatively inexpensive ones like LP-E6 I prefer to save myself the hassle of not being able to charge knock-offs in my original charger, reduced lifespan, reduced operating time, inability to register battery and get accurate info (like % of battery life remaining) If you're investing in Sony NPF batteries then that's another matter. A tenth of the price for half the quality I can accept.

So a girl in underwear with some background music. Yeah, it's a music video allright. Or porn. Could be porn.

Yeah... it certainly isn't gonna replace a cinema experience of something like a romantic comedy.... it will be genre specific, for sure. Sci-fi , action and horror seem the perfect genres... as well as the really good imax "experience" films. I think Pixar are already on the case too.... though a world full of kids in vr headsets is a worrying thought! BTW... Did you see the news today that imax and Google have paired up to create what they call the first cinematic 3d 360 camera.... I can only imagine the price of that! Now go load up insidious on your cardboard.... headphones on... time to get scared!

I'm happy with the Wasabi brand LP-E6 batts. Of 20 I've bought, 1 has prematurely lost its charge capacity. At $15 each, I don't mind if I have to occasionally get new ones.

Jeez, for an image like that, just shoot all your films on it at 2 frames per second. I'd forgive you

I posted the video here because theres been a request for footage shot on the Blackmagic Micro Camera. It's in the title. Then this guy comes. I'm glad you told me so everyone can see you prove the point I would like to prove. You're a joke. This is laughing stock. I'm done talking to you.

Its like using the bmpcc when using a tripod. But with great audio, lots of media space and 5h battery. Paired with an EVF its very nice to use handheld. It takes a while to boot and is loud between takes. Other than that its joyful.

Mostly the Tokina 11-16, and the rest of it with old Nikkor AI 28mm and 50mm. All on BMPCC Speedbooster in 3:1 RAW compression. Grade in Resolve.

I had that problem upon delivery of mine. I ran the "Horizon Calibration" sequence on a PERFECTLY LEVEL flat tabletop. I ran it about 6 times to get it to work itself out. Only took about 5-minutes. I turned the DS1 off in between every cycle of the sequence too. It's been fine ever since (5 months) and that slow turning to either side never came back.

I agree 100% so many awesome lenses ! the cameras are good enough that we can focus on the lens and its rendering only i would have never guessed. Have you tried 24mm 2.8 FD ? my personal favorite,leave it on 2.8 come close about one meter and let the magic happen !

It's also almost impossible to predict if a lens is going to appreciate in value. Certainly small flange depth lenses won't hold their value as much as they're significantly harder to adapt. Older lenses like Super Baltars and Zeiss Super/Standard Speeds, Cooke Panchros, Lomos etc. have seen their values increase hugely, thanks in part to the lust and want for 'older' glass for a specific look, now that we're trying to take the 'edge' off digital. In addition, the rarity of a lens adds significant value. Super Baltars haven't been made since the 70s. Zeiss Supers and Panchros since the 80s. One imagines that an older set of lenses that can cover and resolve 8k/full frame+, and are rather fast, will continue to appreciate in value as other sets break, deteriorate etc. Think back to the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s... how could anyone have predicted that old school 'soft' lenses would come back into fashion? EF glass is unlikely to appreciate simply based on the fact that there's so many of them. There's really no secret recipe. If everyone thought they knew what would appreciate in value, everyone would buy those lenses - which would stop them from appreciating as they'd be so common. Think of the expensive Canon 50mm f0.95. Sure, they made around 20,000 units, but it's still a pretty rare lens - and that's why it's expensive. Compare it to the Helios 44-2, one of the most mass-produced lenses ever. Production on both cameras stopped a long while ago, and yet one can be had for $40 - the other $4,000.

Leica R - f2 or faster.. native e-,ount and m4/3 lenses will depreciate in value since they'll always be less adaptable than slr lenses. personally I feel if a lens requires electronic contacts to allow it to be used, it's almost certainly gonna devalue rather than increase.

I doubt many new electronic lenses will keep the value in the future but im sure manual lenses like the zeiss and leica lenses with always have their value.

I personally preferred the situation where nx1 was abandonware, since...it's abandonware even today, but more closed. They'll never start nx again, unless someone buys the mount. They could release a fw with some of the 50+ requests we did in the last year and half, but they preferred not to listen and instead to lock the mods. Just like they did in the past, they go their own route, never listening to customers. That's why they failed with nx and why most pros never took them seriously.