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  1. This is my first test of using the 6K 29,97p 3:2 ratio on the new GH5. I'm happy with the results, please tell me what you think. But I want to share my teething troubles working with the GH5. 1- The first question was which focal lens setting did I have to choose for the stabiliser. My prime lens is a 35mm, but did I have to include the 1,75x factor of the anamorphic, that is influencing only on the width ? My first impression is that the internal stabiliser is not really the friend of anamorphic lens, some distortions or rolling shutter. There is some small moments in the movie that you can notice, but most of the strongest were unedited. Because of the prime lens which is 35mm, and maybe the wildest I can use with my baby Hypergonar anamorphic lens, I had to zoom in the image sometimes, when it's in movement for example, to avoid moving vignetting in the frame. I did up to 17%. 2- the H265 codec that is used for the 6K mode I had problems editing the 6K mode video. I have Premiere CC2017, but even when it downloads the H265 / HEVC codec, I couldn't really import the original files. Some of them were working, but most of them had strange result on the timeline with green colors. And not to mention the lag with playing the video, on Premiere or VLC. I test it on two different iMac, mine that is a end 2012 with 24 Go of RAM, and at the university that is a 5k iMac with 8 Go. So I transcoded the video with Handbrake, which surprisingly accept the 5184*3486 with H264 5.2 level. Then I decided to export directly in anamorphic without the black bars, in 5184*1976, then doing a same dimension sequence in Premiere. Badfully I couldn't export the same dimension when I finished my edit on Premiere, so I did it in the maximum that my version of Premiere accept at my home : 4K (4096 maximum on the width). When I will find the solution, I will export it in its original dimension 5184*1976. Having troubles with a new camera and a "new codec" and new dimension "6k" is not new for me and I accept it I remember when a long time ago when I bought the GH1 I had to switch from Final Cut Pro 7 to Premiere to be able to edit the H264 clips directly on the timeline. Thanks for watching the movie and do not hesitate giving me your opinion and your experience with editing 6K material from this new beast named GH5 ! GH5 6K 5184*3486 3:2 29,97p export to 4k 29,97p anamorphic 4096*1560 prime lens : Qioptiq 35mm f1.6 wide open most of the time anamorphic lens : baby Hypergonar 1.75x focus module : SLR Magic Rangefinder Imperial ND filters : Hoya 32x, 4x and 2x slight black and white levels / no color correction cropping due to vigneting of the anamorphic due to the stabiliser from 0 to 17% Thanks to Virgil for his GH5
    3 points
  2. There are no "dumb" documentaries in my eyes...A documentary mostly tells a story... It's quite hard to do 2-3 minutes shorts...It's an art to do a self-contained and explaining story in this short time...BTW: Don't believe the claim "films longer than 2-3 minutes are useless because people don't watch them". It's an ignorant lie - may be relevant for news, selfish corporate image films or commercials, but not for good stories...
    3 points
  3. All kidding aside, The Gh5 is looking like a camera that is impossible to not buy if you are serious about film making. At least on a budget, and want a small size factor camera. Looking really Damn good. And I bet there is some LuT to make it a bit less Videoish looking. Is it going to look like a BMPCC in Raw, probably not, but I bet it can be made to get sort of close. But in reality I don't think you can really make 4k look less Videoish because the 4k on it has so damn much detail in it. I guess it would defeat the purpose of even Shooting in 4k??? I don't envy Sony right now. They are going to have to make a pretty unbelievable camera to compete with the GH5. They are almost going to have to come up with a bigger body size to compete with the better battery life, cooling that is going to be needed to outdo the GH5, or heck even match it. It will be interesting. We May find out at the end of this month at NAB!
    3 points
  4. Here a small test : 3009 x 1280@24p (upscale to 4k) + 14 bits lossless = continuous shooting. I used the new ML Cinelog-C to Ektar 100 LANDSCAPE lut of @hyalinejim Graded in Davinci Resolve 12.5, edited in Premiere.
    3 points
  5. Different sensors sizes provide different pixel sizes and resolutions and abilities to use different lens sizes. Smaller sensor cameras tend to be more compact and lower cost. Nothing magical happens with DOF as sensor size increases. I got killer shallow DOF with the Voigtlander F.95 25mm on the GH4. Is the 50mm F1.4 or F1.2 shallower on the FF 5D3- sure, but these shallow DOFs aren't usable very often for video, right? And just being shallower isn't a special, magical property. The Alexa looks killer because of the ALEV III sensor design and associated image processing and color science. They used S35 as that is the standard for filmmaking and for lens compatibility. If a larger sensor size would create a magical image better than a smaller sensor size, ARRI would have made it, right? What about the Alexa 65? That's just their way of using the ALEV III sensor (3 of them rotated 90 degrees) to get higher resolution without changing the sensor, pixel size, image processing, and color science. It's about resolution, and that's it. Nothing magical about the sensor size by itself. If larger sensor sizes produce a better DOF look (vs. just shallower via available lenses), it should be easy to prove. The reason there's no proof is it's a myth.
    3 points
  6. I just made a surprising discovery with my 23mm WR. Turning the focus ring at different speeds does not affect the distance the focus travels. This is highly unusual for a fly-by-wire lens. What other lenses act like this? My 18-55mm and 35mm f1.4 don't.
    2 points
  7. Horizontal oval bokeh instead of vertical oval bokeh happens when the taking lens is on close focus and the anamorphic lens is on far focus, or in another words, when both lenses are not focused precisely at the same spot. Maybe the focus marks in your ana lens are off?
    2 points
  8. I'll fix that for you, This is the link to the free GH5 http://woobox.com/f8ugnj/ir9cal
    2 points
  9. There is absolutely no issue with doing pans with the GH5's IBIS and there is no jerk as I saw in the early G85 pre-firmware update. Man, how one guy, who doesn't bother to learn his camera, can start this stuff, amazing. Now the GH5's IBIS, that everyone prior had loved, is crap. He's a funny guy, but trust me, that doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about. Yikes! Here's a very quick video I slapped together the other day at the new Nassau Colliseum. This is all hand-held and the first video clip shows a pan. There was no jerk at the beginning of the clip, but it was extremely windy. Normally I'd just edit over with music, but this wasn't to be a masterpiece or a saved work by any measure. The point was to see how the GH5 did in a real world, low light situation. ISOs went up to about 1600 or a bit more in spots within the arena and where the face painting was being done. And just as a point of confession (Jon, are you listening?;)), I did add a bit of sharpening in post for the one shot you see here. I thought it was a bit soft, since the 14-140 was at max aperture in low light (another no no, going full zoom in low light). In looking at this on my OLED, I added too much sharpening and probably didn't have to add any at all.
    2 points
  10. I'd add - When you have things at default, the sonys make afc look much better. Panasonic needs to center weight as the default! - Try using 1-area af. Panasonic should probably label this as VIDEO FOCUS and have it as default or something for video shooting. That's if their AFC implementation of all the other settings are going to stay as flaky. - AFC is mostly flaky in most other settings. This will need firmware support. Why? Because the problem isn't with the hardware. Photos use AF and the GH5 is probably the fastest on the planet. AFC is the camera knowing when to make changes. Saying the AF is bad is missing the point about AFC. A lot of the discussions on youtube conflate afc into af inaccurately. - Matt is put down a bit by the commenters. But as I said above, the AF is extremely fast and matt was saying the truth. If you take photos you can see how fast it is. So the trouble is somewhere else in the afc process. At 3:29 iphondo says clearly that the AFS is extremely fast! It is faster for photos and videos. MUCH faster. But the AFC problems are not about speed. - A mistake is at 16:28 where the text of the instruction book is misunderstood. Granted the translation is not the best. It is actually just stating that with the two adjustments you can make to the af settings you can actually get them fighting each other if set to extremes in certain environments. It is not saying the AF is bad. iphondo makes this the reason for sending the camera back which is a bit silly. - Agree on the battery life, got myself a couple more batteries for 5 now. - And with regards to the stabilisation, 1) the x3000 uses the best floating lens-sensor on the market. Put ANY camera up against that please. 2) Weird looking sway for sure. I don't have the 12-35 but I'll try the same camera combo tomorrow. Fun! Hopefully I'll have the camera focussed correctly not at 30cm like in the video. Also going to compare the GX85 at some point.
    2 points
  11. Thanks you @mercer and @Hanriverprod. I get the good resolution for framing, but it's a mix and grayscale and colored preview (still not easy with this preview and hope the ML team will find something more comfy). I don't tried yet hdmi monitoring.
    2 points
  12. Afaik the performance of the IBIS doesnt really change on the GX80 in later firmware updates, yet the sound of it running does. The Ex Tele Converter only knows one option when you are in FHD (2.4x) hence the reason why you only can do it on / off. When taking pictures, you can use different amounts based on your aspect ratio - see page 151 in the manual. It shouldnt be blurry at all, at least that I cant confirm that.
    2 points
  13. You are a good old sailor, so you give more in a post of yours than the output coming from hundreds of videos posted on YT by kids clueless on what they actually do ; ) Without mention their messages published there ;-)
    2 points
  14. jcs

    Website and Business Cards

    Wordpress and the default theme will work, however Wordpress IMO is a bit of a mess (I'm a long time developer (C/C++/OBJC desktop, embedded, and iOS (+ Android NDK (C++)). I've successfully avoided web development because all the tools are a mess: HTML, CSS, Javascript (HTML5), PHP etc.). Additionally C/C++/OBJC is more profitable. I built our websites with Wordpress and a bunch of plugins, but would much prefer something else. Unfortunately, for quick development without having to write web code, it's currently the least bad of all the options (jQuery, bootstrap, angular.js and sass are OK, but they're for writing code, not WYSIWYG). You could try something like http://www.wix.com which would work for a basic site with no coding, especially if you start with a template close to what you want. Honestly business cards are a waste of time, money, and paper. As a vendor it's best to collect emails, and when you meet people you want to connect with, get their email and/or phone number, then follow up. I've gotten work from LinkedIn (tech), so it's worthwhile. In LA especially, film work really requires face-to-face networking in addition to an online presence to show your work.
    2 points
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  16. Yeah but she still has the best skin tone and still pretty hot. You kinda wish you could hook up with her again (even just once) if it wasn't for all her issues and the fact that she's a gold digger.
    2 points
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  18. Here is a rather bizzare and extreme example of how what lens design can do. http://www.rafcamera.com/en/elite-reverse-perspective-lens
    1 point
  19. Ah thank you Elgabogomez (and Justin). I'm new to this and still working it out. I have a clamp on the way from the US so once I get that, and I have a permanent 'fixed distance' between the taking lenses and the anamorphic I'll look at re-aligning the lenses again to tighten the focus, and then practice some more to see what I'm doing wrong.
    1 point
  20. Cassius McGowan

    Win a GH5...

    Don't know if this has been posted but there's a chance to win a GH5 bundle on www.premiumbeat.com. You don't have to do anything just email address and that's it. Worldwide contest also. Good luck if anyone wins from here.
    1 point
  21. My link may or may not give you a bigger penis and less hair loss.
    1 point
  22. Too funny LOL. The first post with link will get you a dancing monkey also. Disclaimer(you may not get a dancing monkey)
    1 point
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    1 point
  24. Updated link below http://woobox.com/f8ugnj/irw3gl
    1 point
  25. This is a relative world--not an absolute one. We only know quality and performance in one thing in relation to other things. I'm not a professional--just a very interested amateur who wants to get the best possible results with the equipment I have. And to me that means being abreast of what equipment is available and what its capabilities are. Most pros I know are almost constantly obsessively searching for equipment that will make things better and easier, and their loyalty is to results not a brand. I think I agree Jon. It's kind of weird when someone doesn't--especially a professional.
    1 point
  26. I hope that Canon doesn't drop the XC_* line. My XC-10 is a little marvel of right compromises. Wish list is quite simple: a) Servo zoom (could be an add-on with its own batteries) b) A wider and faster lens c) A more complex flash shoe (with audio and HDMI video out) plus a bottom strip with all i/o plus power. So you would have: a) XC-10 plus add-on servo b) XC-15 Never understood the concept c) XC-20 (the 10, plus the servo and I/O) d) XC-30 with a wider-faster servo lens and the I/O The price point is easy to figure out, both the XC-10 and 15 drop by 500$USD And the new 20 is a couple of hundred more than the XC-10 while the 30 is a $1,000 Stretching the wish list would be a bare XC with a mount, only an on/off button, no side-grip. Only a HDMI and USB plus a back or under plate for batteries and holes galore. Controlled by wi-fi or USB. At $3,000 it would make a killing as an expendable camera. Going against the Canon faith would be to add support to the new hi-speed SD card, but this is asking too much.
    1 point
  27. Can you share some images ? I'm not sure I totally get it As for the distance between the adapter and the lens, it is usually preffered to get them as close as possible. In my tests however (with the ulttrastar) I did not see much of a difference except for vignetting.
    1 point
  28. They gain Customers because the 5D has no 1080 60fps mode?
    1 point
  29. Actually I should say afc in photo mode is great. Daniel Cox just finishing a big test on it.
    1 point
  30. Hopefully when you run your billion dollar camera company, you can show them how it's done!
    1 point
  31. The world is not all lost, after all (well, only the 1st one is mine :-D): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WD9C3C2koU&lc=z13rwplrhlfzztpyz04chxzyhqyfcfxhlkw0k "To begin with, you'd use the brains to make a choice, same thing where you want the focus, then you'd lock it. Now seems simple, isn't it? ;-) This camera is not for people who don't understand a shit about it. But, apart the appearances (we all bet you don't speak all the time like that), when we go deep in your review, it's not hard to get you are not a moron, so what's up when you're unable to find a way? Did you test tap-to-focus by any chance? What will Matt Frazer think of you when you'll see each other next time?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WD9C3C2koU&lc=z12yxly43ozispyw004ccziy2onatvfj2bw "The GH5 is not made for VLOG and selfies... Get a Canon 70D at $800 for that and you'll be happy with the AF. People who spend $2k for the GH5 do it for the image quality and bit depth, they'll use manual focus (peaking) or lock AF anyway. (...)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WD9C3C2koU&lc=z12yxly43ozispyw004ccziy2onatvfj2bw.1491808591358142 "V-Log works perfectly on mine. I dont like the stabilisation but the rest ist just wonderfull. even the AF is very good. its a prosumer camera so you have to choose settings. if you change the 225 focus modus to center you get better results as the rx100, i´m sure about that" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WD9C3C2koU&lc=z13bjzc4avn4ed3pn04cjbliwx3tjfzhiao "I think its obvious you shot in the 225 mode and that the problem. the sony focuses whatever is in the center, you can do the same with the gh5 if you choose center focus" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WD9C3C2koU&lc=z13qfj1gjonqit2xo04ce1jyluqzyrl4ifc "Just curious, you have a tablet on the table. Why dont you use the app to set the focus and have it set to a fixed point? I do that with the GH4 and works out great!" Great post, Jon! Nice to read you :-)
    1 point
  32. Movement in frame seems fine.The natural soft color is also nice. Whenever you are shooting again, the test with simple pans and titls, ibis on, would be interesting. If you could start from a still shot and then do a slow pan or tilt like you are setting up a master wide and then settle into a static shot. Also, maybe some shots with change of directions as well. I wanted to rent one this week at a nearby rental shop in Seoul, but they said they wouldn't get it for 20 more days. Thank you for taking the time to do this. I really appreciate it.
    1 point
  33. Shot some people walking for you at 24 fps, 180 shutter. Forgot about ibis. Forgot about panning. Sigh.
    1 point
  34. jcs

    which headpones?

    Here's what I learned at CanJam 2017: https://brightland.com/w/the-best-headphones/ Such a great idea and nice meeting people and trying gear in person!
    1 point
  35. Blame much more Panasonic reps than the complexity of their AF system. Other than that, it is a film camera, not exactly the typical vlog one. Good for her imagerie! ;-)
    1 point
  36. Latest short movie in low light with the Bolex 16/32/1.5x, Voigtländer Ultron 40mm and Samsung NX1. 1600 ISO
    1 point
  37. I used to read Cinema5D articles quite regularly, previously. But ever since their bluff has been called about their obviously biased reviews, I avoid them like the plague.
    1 point
  38. Not mine, but thought I'd add it to the collection..
    1 point
  39. No one will ever do a test to satisfy some people (there will always be a fraction of a difference from theoretical equivalence- unless someone actually builds two cameras and lenses specifically to match, there will ALWAYS be a hair different here or a spot different there). Just using my own gear and doing my own lame tests I am more than satisfied. One of these is M4/3 (in 3:2 mode) and the other FF. Wont be acceptable as I was being lazy (really lazy) and doing this quickly but I see little difference.
    1 point
  40. Juxx989

    Photo Rumors on NX

    http://photorumors.com/2017/04/07/two-years-later-samsung-is-done-with-digital-cameras/
    1 point
  41. Extreme narrow DOF has very little use if you are actually shooting a film as opposed to posting clips on the internet to make people go WOW! Most of the time you need more not less DOF. It's not like the laws of optics are new and still being worked out so why are people still arguing over 'equivelence' and some magical reality bending properties of MF lenses......
    1 point
  42. The largest sensor with the fastest lens will always give you the shallowest depth of field for a given angle of view. Where the "problem" arises is when the larger sensor camera doesn't have any lenses that match up for speed with a smaller sensor camera. FF has an advantage in that there are plenty of super fast lenses for many focal lengths while medium format(s) and larger often don't have such fast (or wide) lenses available. That is one of the things said in reviews of the new MF Fuji. There are not any lenses that can give it shallower DOF than some of the FF cameras available. I am sure there are lots of reasons people shot on 8x10 view cameras but then what else would they have at the time? I can only find a few MF cameras in the DOF calculator I play with and so have picked the Pentax 645D. Here is a list of available lenses for it (from Wikipedia). There may be others and you might be able to adapt other lenses too. smc PENTAX-D FA 645 25 mm F4.0 AL SDM AW [IF] (2011) smc PENTAX-DA 645 25 mm F4.0 AL SDM AW [IF] (2012-current) smc PENTAX-A 645 35 mm F3.5 smc PENTAX-FA 645 35 mm F3.5 AL [IF] (current) smc PENTAX-A 645 45 mm F2.8 smc PENTAX-FA 645 45 mm F2.8 (current) smc PENTAX-A 645 55 mm F2.8 smc PENTAX-D FA 645 55 mm F2.8 AL SDM AW [IF] (2010-current) smc PENTAX 645 LS 75 mm F2.8 (current) - leaf shutter smc PENTAX-A 645 75 mm F2.8 smc PENTAX-FA 645 75 mm F2.8 (current) HD PENTAX-D FA 645 Macro 90 mm F2.8 ED AW SR (current) smc PENTAX-A 645 Macro 120 mm F4.0 (current) smc PENTAX-FA 645 Macro 120 mm F4.0 (current) smc PENTAX 645 LS 135 mm F4.0 (current) - leaf shutter smc PENTAX-A 645 150 mm F3.5 smc PENTAX-FA 645 150 mm F2.8 [IF] (current) smc PENTAX-A 645 200 mm F4.0 smc PENTAX-FA 645 200 mm F4.0 ED (current) smc PENTAX-A 645 300 mm F4.0 ED [IF] (current) smc PENTAX-FA 645 300 mm F5.6 ED [IF] (current) smc PENTAX-FA 645 400 mm F5.6 ED [IF] (current) smc PENTAX-A 645 600 mm F5.6 ED [IF] (current) HD PENTAX-DA 645 28-45 mm F4.5 ED AW SR (current) smc PENTAX-FA 645 Zoom 33–55 mm F4.5 AL (current) smc PENTAX-A 645 Zoom 45–85 mm F4.5 smc PENTAX-FA 645 Zoom 45–85 mm F4.5 (current) smc PENTAX-FA 645 Zoom 55–110 mm F5.6 (current) smc PENTAX-A 645 Zoom 80–160 mm F4.5 smc PENTAX-FA 645 Zoom 80–160 mm F4.5 (current) smc PENTAX-FA 645 Zoom 150–300 mm F5.6 ED [IF] (current) The crop factor to FF is .79 (I think) and the widest lens is 25mm so nothing readily available wider than around 20mm. Nothing faster than 2.8 it seems either. A 75mm 2.8 lens on the MF Pentax equates to about a 60mm f2 lens FF. Nice enough but there are much faster lenses readily available. That 75mm lens on the Pentax at 2.8 and with a subject distance of 10 feet has total DOF of 1.17 ft. A 60mm f2 lens on FF at f2 and at 10 feet to subject has a total DOF of 1 foot (not an exact match but the figures are not exact - close enough though). Stick a 58mm 1.2 lens on the FF camera and the total DOF is going to be well under 1 foot at 10 feet to subject distance. Yes, there are super fast MF lenses but they are rare and expensive and mostly aerial photography lenses. Anyone ever seen one? The H6D 100C has a larger sensor than the Pentax 645D but the same things still happen. You have to have the lenses for it to have shallower DOF. If you DO, the yes you wont match it but what lenses are you going to use? The Hasselblad does have wider and faster lenses (than the Pentax 645D) available though not a huge amount.
    1 point
  43. Disclaimer: I dont have the camera, Im not saying its good or bad. I haven't watched Max, Kens or any other AF test. Personally I would never use AF anyway. Its to slow and imprecise for my way of doing things. So this comment is not about the AF in the GH5, its about AF in general. But, If it really comes down to "learning" how to use the AF its at least safe to say its not great. Ive said the same thing about WB in Sony Slog. Some say it requires practice and testing. Bullshit imo. A $3K camera that needs special treatment for something so fundamental and simple as WB... thats just a bad WB. An AF in a $2K camera that needs more fiddling than MF just to get it going... sounds like a pretty mediocre AF imo. Again, not saying the camera is bad, so take a deep breath before defending. All AF is mediocre at best imo. I dont use AF on any camera. I hardly ever use it for stills (to slow) so I couldn't care less. I was just thinking out loud about what Ive read in this thread. There are far more important things to factor when deciding on a camera imo. AF in video isnt at the top of the list. In fact, its not even on the list.
    1 point
  44. I just got the camera. I saw that it came up with the focal length question and adjusted it accordingly. I was was a bit confused if I needed to do anything else because in GH4 you had to changed to "Shoot without lens" in the setting thanks josse
    1 point
  45. Tips: Have at least 3 batteries with you. Will need more for all day shoots. The GH5 does eat them up twice as fast as the GH4. The entire body warms up a bit after a while - great heat dispersion. When using 6kPhoto there is a warning if you choose the "shoot forever" mode that "Note: automatically change to 6K burst mode if camera exceeds temperature rating." Sounds like a challenge? Who's going to overheat their GH5 first?
    1 point
  46. Dear cinematographers and cineastes, What will film and cinema look like in future when analog film will disappear given the diversity of digital moving picture formats? The documentary CINEMA FUTURES explores this important subject. For the sake of film please watch and share. Thanks! Here's the international trailer: With Martin Scorsese, Christopher Nolan, Tacita Dean, Apichatpong Weerasethakul, David Bordwell, Tom Gunning, Jacques Rancière, Margaret Bodde, Paolo Cherchi Usai, Nicole Brenez, Michael Friend, Greg Lukow, Mike Mashon, and many others. Liebe Cinematographers und Cineasten, Wie sieht die Zukunft des Films aus in einer Zeit des rapiden Verschwindens des analogen Filmstreifens und der Diversität digitaler Laufbild-Formate? CINEMA FUTURES ab 28.4. in österr. Kinos. For the sake of film please watch and share. Danke!
    1 point
  47. Yep pretty bad. No always that much. I did not add any sharpening
    1 point
  48. mat33

    Canon XC10 4K camcorder

    I know we are a distrustful bunch, but I can verify I do actually have an XC10, I'm not trying to sell it to you as a rare non-ghosting collectable safari edition, and my younger sister isn't pregnant which is why I'm risking my EosHD credibility and my promising career at dental school :-) I am just finishing an edit of something that should be suitable to post publicly, so I'll do that when I get a chance. Its nothing groundbreaking just a montage of some travel shots with the family but I was happy with the quality. I might even set my XC10 to iso20000 and wave it madly in front of a vase or similar to see if I do get any ghosting. I understand where you are coming from, and that you wish to make sure any prospective buyers don't just get the rose tinted view of the camera. I also appreciate the ghosting may be a show stopper for some. But my point is, which I think is valid and also important for prospective buyers to know, is that there are XC10 users out there who are happy with their cameras and that in their real world use aren't bothered by ghosting (regardless of whether their camera produces it or not). Nice vid by the way.
    1 point
  49. Just checked Whois - www.craftcamera.com is registered to: E.Saawadi, Mansoura, Egypt Yep, I'm just kidding.
    1 point
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