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OK, I've got a camera in front of me now, so I'll give you the exact steps 1) Press Menu button on the camera 2) Go to the Setup menu 3) Navigate to WiFi 4) Select WiFi Function 5) Select New Connection -- (This may be where its gone wrong as you may have been using your previous phone connection ) 6) Select Remote Shooting & View 7) Camera screen will now be showing the Wifi glowing beacon thing 8) Choose the SSID ID it is showing on the camera (Should be GX80-blah blah) to connect your phone or laptop to 9) Camera will show message saying 'If you have not launched the smartphone application.....' message 10) Load the html page into the browser of your phone or laptop 11) Select 'Handshake' 12) The browser will now display 'ok,GX80-xxxxx,remote,encrypted' (the xxxxxx will be your specific GX80 ID) 13) Hit 'Back' on your browser 14) Select 'Connect' 15) The browser will now display 'OK' and the camera will display 'Under Remote Control' 16) Wait until you see the live view image on the camera LCD 17) Hit 'Back' on your browser 18) Select 'Deploy Cinelike D' 19) The browser will now display 'OK' 20) On the camera display, the picture style will not be displayed (top left next to the Mode indicator) 21) To restore Standard profiles, hit 'Back' on your browser and select 'Restore' 22) The browser will now display 'OK' and on the camera display, the STD picture style will be displayed (top left next to the Mode indicator) 23) Repeat 17-22 to switch between enabling and disabling Cinelike D If it does NOT connect the first time, then just let it time out and repeat from the top. Once it has successfully connected it will store the connection and from thereon in will connect first time every time. By the way, just to be absolutely clear, the quote of mine that you've used there relates to a different conversation regarding trying to guess at additional commands to get them working. It has nothing to do with what I've shared regarding the Cinelike D stuff as rest assured I would not share something without testing that it didn't break my own camera first. OK, well that sounds like if you got the handshake going then the camera is timing out, dropping its wifi transmission and your phone is falling back to a different wifi network and giving the 404 error because its connected to the internet while the page is referring to the address of the camera. This is a positive sign as it should mean if you start the process again, the connection will have been registered and you'll be able to get through on the next attempt.

They were my instructions to be fair but no matter, we got there in the end!

Yes, its changeable in camera like the other profiles and the changes are persistent on power off and when stored in C1 etc

The LX100 accepts the Cinelike commands and changes it's colour profile to something unusual. I'll look at it again at some point as it would be a very cool thing to have on there I think.

You don't need to use the Panasonic app, its all done through your browser. 1) Turn the wifi function on on the camera 2) In your wifi settings on the phone, connect to the camera. (NB Depending on how easy it is to load html files from a file on your particular phone, it might be easier to use a computer but there's no reason it won't work with a phone browser) 3) Load the html file attached here (the original one has now been updated to have both types of Cinelike) 4) Select Handshake 5) Depending on how successful your previous attempts have been the camera will accept the connection and you hit Connect. 6) If it hasn't connected first time the camera will time out. This is perfectly OK, it is waiting sometimes for a return authorisation which it wont get as we're not using the app. If this happens, just start the process again from step 1 and it will work second time round. 7) Once its connected the camera will say under remote control, then wait for it to show a live view on the LCD screen. 8) Select which version of Cinelike that you want. 9) For all subsequent connections, you won't have to do the two step handshake, it will just be > Turn on wifi on camera, connect wifi on phone, load html page, hit Handshake, hit Connect, wait for live view and then choose which Cinelike you want or select Restore to go back to Standard setting. DEPLOY CINELIKE D AND V.html

OK So for anyone wanting to try this, I have made a really simple method to do it. I have tested this numerous times on my GX80 and it has lived to tell the tale but obviously do this at your own risk. All that this process does is fool the camera into thinking its talking to the smartphone app and then the commands it sends are exactly what the smartphone app sends. Or would do if the smartphone app thought it was talking to a camera equipped with Cinelike D ! So as such it is only getting sent what the Panasonic app would be sending to it so there are no hacky or sneaky debug things getting sent to it. Again, though, proceed at your own risk. Although I would say, if you’ve tried that region switching hack on YouTube with the 10 million key press combos during power up then you’re already brave enough to try this! Bear in mind that my unit is a GX80 and the firmware is version 1.0 If you have a GX85 or have got a different firmware then I just don’t know because obviously I haven’t got any other devices to test it on. Here we go then…. Follow these instructions exactly and you should have Cinelike D on your GX80/85 You will need a laptop or a phone with a browser, the camera and to download the simple html file attached. 1) Switch on camera and turn on wifi as though you were connecting the app and you should see the waiting screen on the camera 2) Load the Deploy Cinelike D.html file into your browser 3) Select ‘Handshake’ 4) You should see the browser page change and it confirm that its connected to a GX80 5) Hit the back key on the browser 6) Select ‘Connect’ 7) You should see the browser page change to say ‘ok’ and the camera give you an ‘Under Remote Control’ message 8) Wait until the camera screen shows you a live view 9) Hit the back key on the browser 10) Select ‘Deploy’ 11) You should see the browser page change to say ‘ok’ and the camera should NOT now be displaying the Photo Style you had selected (i.e. Standard, Vivid etc) 12) Cinelike D is now active on the camera 13) If you go into the menu on the camera and select Photo Style you will see that it is blank and you can’t navigate to other Photo Styles such as Standard etc. 14) To restore the Photo Styles hit the back button on the browser and select ‘Restore’ and the camera will display the Standard photo style and you should then be able to go into Photo Styles and change them. 15) Repeat 9-14 to switch between them to your hearts content! So, like other settings, the Cinelike D profile will persist when you switch the camera off so if you want to use the other Photo Styles again then you MUST go this process again to re-enable them. However, if you would like to switch between them without using this method again (and who wouldn’t) here is a neat way round it. When you’ve done Step 12 and got Cinelike D on, set all your other parameters (4K24p etc) as you’d like them and save these into C1 of the custom settings. Then go to Step 14 and use the ‘Restore’ to get your standard Photo Styles back, set all your other parameters (4K24p etc) as you’d like them and then save these into C2 of the custom settings. Now when you switch the camera on, you simply choose C1 to have Cinelike D or C2 for the standard Photo Styles and forget about using any nonsense about using browsers and wifi connections! In couple of weeks I’m hoping to show you how you can do stuff like this and some other useful bits and pieces from a little hardware gadget that will work on the Panasonic cameras but have fun with this in the meantime. DEPLOY CINELIKE D.html

This was shot in Hiroshima over a couple of days in 2016. I'd just gotten the BM Micro Cinema Camera and I wanted to give the camera a good shakedown, and I thought a personal project was a nice way to do that. I shot a lot on the Tokina 11-16 with the BMPCC speedbooster, and various Nikon primes. I tried to lock in down in sticks where I could, since I hadn't really worked out how to rig it for handheld at the time, and since I was travelling I didn't have all my parts with me to franken rig it as I was shooting, so the hand held stuff (particularly in the car) is pretty messy. I struggled with moire like crazy, I only had a Tiffen IRND with me and it wasn't always enough ND so I was stopping down for some of those outdoor shots, which really amped up the moire. I managed to tone down the worse of it, but an AA filter is a must with this camera if you intend to take it outside. I shot it in Prores LT, edited in Premiere Pro and graded in Resolve. Some of the night shots needed noise reduction, but mostly to remove the colour noise -- I actually like the structure of the noise, just not that keen on red and blue ants crawling all over the screen. Neat Video does a good job of removing chrominance noise while leaving the luminance noise, and it blends nicely with a little bit of grain using Filmconvert. Hope you enjoy the film, love to hear what you think! -- Daisaku & Takae have run their local grocery store in the hills of Hiroshima together for the last 53 years. In that time they have seen huge changes in their neighbourhood, and profound changes in the way local people shop for essentials. From humble beginnings selling cigarettes from a window in their family home to a bustling grocery store that served their community, they have seen and felt the rise of supermarkets and convenience stores and the impact that has had on their livelihood. Here they tell their story of how it started, what keeps them working, and what they will do when they finally retire. CREDITS Direction/DOP/Sound/Edit/Grade by John Kung Translation and Interview by Iku Motonaga Very special thanks to Daisaku and Takae for their generous telling of their story.

My apologies. I obviously left out some bits of the discussion on this thread. Btw, excellent work BTM_Pix.

If you're in a mixed lighting situation, the position and angle of the grey card will have a huge impact on the result of a custom WB, depending on what percentage of each light source it reflects. If you're shooting under one kind of light only, the custom WB should be the same every time, unles you're getting a lot of reflected light from a coloured object on the card. If I'm shooting outdoors I'll happily use a WB preset like daylight or cloudy. Or if I want a warmer or cooler look I'll dial in the Kelvin. Indoors I'll always try to do a custom WB because who knows what colour contemporary light bulbs are - there's a crazy range of spectrums in different products these days. Either way, I will tweak the temperature and tint of nearly all shots I use. Not because I want to neutralise the colour of the light or mixture of lights, but because I want to fine tune the colour relationship of the objects in the scene. I fiddle with the sliders from too blue to too orange and back again, looking for the sweet spot. Then I do the same for green and magenta. But the next clip, shot in the same location from a slightly different angle, might need a tweak of both sliders to match the previous.

I like how LIKE 709 looks, but i want to have more information in shadows and highlights. So, shooting using VLOG will give me more room in post

Can't you just use a preset WB, film the grey card at the beginning of your take and then use the picker tool in Color Finale Pro to give you middle grey... or 18% grey... whichever it is?

I suspect this list of reasons is going to end up like this in reverse

"Packet Capture" (free from the Play store) doesn't require root access if anyone wants to delve in. Not my experience with this at all. Its made no difference at all to the responsiveness of any of the controls of the camera. Are you referring to when you still have it connected to the wifi or something? This is expected and described earlier in the thread. Its actually the way to confirm its worked As per the recommendation, consider saving the Cinelike profile as C1 and then the Standard profile as C2. This makes it really simple to switch between them in camera if required. Hope that helps.

I know, thanks again

Gotcha, that makes sense. That a7s is a wicked tool. Some of the nicest 1080p video I have seen online was shot with an a7s. I came across this video a few weeks ago. I'm already heavily invested in Canon and ML Raw, but if I hadn't been I may have picked up an a7s based on this video alone. This guy used sLog2 without any profile modifications... He used a Minolta 35mm 1.8... which is one of my favorite lenses of all time. I had to sell it a few years back because I needed some extra cash... I still regret it. That 24mm of yours would look good under similar lighting, I would think? It may look nicer.

Is it working for your LX100?

I never got to a gig last night. Went for a photo walk with the FD 24 1.4 L on my A7s early this morning and took a few short clips on the spur of the moment. Most were too bad to show but here are probably the two "best" together. I should have had a tripod to do this. Any (all) problems are down to me and not the camera or lens.

Just watched Max's video linked above, he says "no screen dimming whatsoever". Thank god. Now if they could just add picture profiles via firmware..

AH, ok - the first speedbump is figured out. I wasn't going to Wi-Fi direct connect on my phone. The two devices are now directly connected via wifi and I was able to successfully initiate the handshake. However, I'm now receiving a 404 Page Not Found error when attempting to connect. Will continue to try and establish a connection via the web browser page.

I just tried this on my zs100 and it appears to work as well. I can't confirm 100% but the profile appears more flat than the flat settings I was using. I can also confirm that the latest GX85 firmware update works fine with this. One thing to mention, if you have your camera in C1, C2, C3 setting when you apply this, it will only apply the profile to that C setting and leave all other settings as is.

It seems like it has every command for every camera. I saw the 200mbps mov options in there. I assume there is some piece of code which communicates which camera the app is communicating with? I wonder if there is a way to trick it if the code could be singled out? I assume a GH4 would be needed to figure out that one line of code... plus a whole lot of time. Pretty cool stuff. Good job @BTM_Pix !!!

Yeah, I have noticed that too, whitebalancing on grey card often gives a clearly inaccurate result. I found out the translucent lens cap is working better for this but most often I'll just dial it in. Haven't played around with the new AWBc yet, which is supposedly suppressing the prevalent reddish tones under certain conditions.

In the 70s in the UK the government used to make a series of public information films with varying degrees of sinister or judgemental tone and this one has always stuck with me. The pay off line at the end is exactly right for this situation when someone like me is being wise after the event !

For anyone who wants to try Cinelike V as well, just use this updated html file and you'll now be able to switch between Cinelike D, Cinelike V and back to Standard. Just a heads up to anyone who is about to try this for the first time is that you may have to initiate the handshake procedure twice when you first connect to your camera but every subsequent connection after that will only require it once. The situation with vlog by the way is that the camera is pretty much acting like my missus when I ask her to make a cup of tea. Hears the request, replies 'OK' so appears to understand it and then does absolutely nothing about it There is maybe something there with trying to persuade it to do higher bitrate HD though but don't build your hopes up. DEPLOY CINELIKE D AND V.html

I'll be doing a bit more poking around this afternoon so if there's anything new I'll pop back with an update. If anyone has access to one of the new cheap GX800/GX850/GF9/WhateverItsCalledInYourCountry then I'd be curious to see them try it on that.

Yes, you just have to modify the html file so that when you hit 'Deploy' it takes you to B&H Website where you can then buy a GH5

So, this is really cool. When you turn it on, does it stay on, or do you have to "flip the switch" every time you turn the camera on? Also can you try, over wi-fi, for a mic input to appear...

@Emanuel is gonna tell you this is amazing, but I am telling you it's shit and useless

Lovely footage I found today...not mine??

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