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Hey, finally done with the trailer to our debut feature film at 55Media shot almost entirely on the Panasonic GH5 (some shots on the GoPro6 and P4P) in just 12 days. Our best work yet. Movie is still going through post-production. Production company: 55Media Director/Writer: Uche Aguh Director of Photography: Dennis Schmitz (me) Assistant Director: Ukairo U. Ukairo. Starring: Jarius Drew Sowells, Kayode Akinyemi, Vincent Ramirez, Thiree Pinnock, Julian Horton, Obum Nwankwo and J Shawn Durham as 'Daddy G' Editing done in Premiere. Colorgrading done in Davinci Resolve. Dealing with the usual quirks of this camera, but results are still great. More information: www.imdb.com/title/tt7928156 www.55media.net

I'm pretty sure one just came on directly over my head when I read that.

It’s like going to Walgreens and they have a buy one get one sale of paper towels. You are paying full price for the first roll of paper towels and the second roll you are getting for free. You cannot go to the counter and say, well I already paid for paper towels last week, so I don’t need the second roll of free paper towels, will you please deduct the price of the paper towels I paid for last week from the paper towels I am buying this week.

At the risk of this becoming even more off topic, can I just say that this must be made to happen as you two co-hosting a vlog arguing about this stuff would be absolutely compulsive viewing

This is no three way battle. It’s a one way battle between your talent/creativity and lack of said talent/creativity. Any one of those cameras is good enough to capture a compelling and entertaining story... in the right hands.

Grant Petty talks about Prores raw at 6.4

@Mokara I read your entire post. It sounded like you were saying HDMI video by nature is debayered and processed. Even the second part of your post seemed to imply that Atomos was just sort of hoping that someone could send a Raw signal for them to record. Sorry if I misunderstood. Raw photos aren't processed, so there is a way for the image to bypass the hardware processor. And besides, Atomos seems to think it can be done. Edit: If Magic Lantern can write Raw to disk using software only, I have no doubt a firmware update to output Raw over HDMI is technically possible for many other camera models.

That reminds me. I need a hair cut! anyway, if you put anything above it be careful not to interfere with the airflow too much It is more the case that Arri feels they only own ONE really really good sensor which is ready for production (I'm sure they working on others). Thus the easiest way to get true 4K from it is just to scale up the size of the sensor Itself

I think that you just haven't been around the block a few times in right direction

They're coming soon!

Last year I posted a short highlight reel of Watkins Glen Vintage racing footage. This is an extended cut with no music, only engine sounds. Enjoy: all GH5 with mostly the sir magic 25mm .95 A few wide shots with the Olympus 12mm.

To quote the Canon website regarding the 1DC "Exterior Material Magnesium alloy" We all know that these magnesium alloy bodies have coatings over them, and whether or not that is plastic doesn’t matter in the conversation. In this thread of conversation, you yourself referenced “Nikon D810 has a Plastic, carbon chassis”. What matters here is how robust the carbon fiber reinforced chassis will be in comparison to magnesium. I don’t have any doubt that this material will be perfectly useable, I agree with you in that. However, I would appreciate it if you could realize when you are trying to make a point simply for your ego. It is important to see the difference in use case between the covering around the camera and the camera chassis. While as a covering it may be perfectly fine to use plastics, it is also reasonable to suggest that this may not be suitable as the chassis as well, especially in a professional use case.

lol, Jesus. How is this even comparable to cable? I'm willing to bet a large portion of people buying this camera don't own a studio license for Resolve. I'm blown away that people are complaining about a company throwing in $300 software with a camera that will likely compete with cameras costing 3-4 times as much.

Never thought of that... thanks for the head's up.

Good grief guys! Are people really complaining that they would like to have a cheaper option of the camera without resolve? As if the feature set v price is not good enough!!!??? Get a grip all, how many cameras come with any editing software at all let alone the industry standard colour grading suite! This camera is what it is. For the price, it's Amazing. If you can't make it work for you that's your issue, not the BMPCC4K's.

Not Webrunner. He has been out pirating somewhere on the seven seas.

Messing around with an outtake from my film... shot on the 5D3 and ML Raw with the Canon 28mm 1.8... I really like a fast 28mm in FF... Click the screengrab for a more accurate image...

Light bulbs over your head? That sounds like a smart idea...

Yeah it can happen. I had that issue. Canon fixed it promptly for free if I remember correctly and even offered to overnight me a free loaner. If you bought the 1dc new you also were a silver or gold or something cvp member for a year, so you could borrow lenses to test for free or cheap (I forget), and other perks. That's another thing to keep in mind. Reliability. Service. Speed. I guess you could just buy 3 or 4 pocket 4ks though.

LOL You are. But with that BMD rep entry I already had dismissed the case... ; ) Better 400 than 800 anyways : ) BTW that talk about free Resolve is rather funny to not say ridiculous :X Hey guys that one is a DaVinci... that one, remember? :-D

Ahh a lot of people on here never heard of ehh Lights. That might look too Filmic. That would Not be Run n Gun worthy. Hell you might even have to stop and setup stuff. Oh MY GOD, that would be a pain. I might have to use a Tripod. My IBIS would be...Wasted, oh dear what shall we do. Ahh yeah those old timey lights. Damn. Good find Glenn.

One could argue, that the full price of the camera and software is $1599 and we’re only paying $1299 because the software is free. But I like your idea better.

This is what Grant Petty had to say when they acquired DaVinci in 2009. "When we were doing the due diligence on DaVinci, I saw a $50,000 price in the price list if you bought a secondhand system, and now wanted to be supported by DaVinci. And not only that, you're paying upward of $80,000 a year for support contract after that." That was just the service charge price you paid to get it checked out if you bought a second hand one. At that time he was talking about getting the purchase price of the high end systems down from $850K to $500K At $1299, I'd say its the camera you are getting for free and not the software.

"I have a feeling, there may be a revamped “Pro” version of Resolve in the works" That..sadly..sounds about right. I'm a Resolve studio owner..

Well it was one of my favorites until throwing it in the trunk of the car a lot it sort of , eh made it sort of ehh Classic looking, used and abused, but still takes great, well good pictures.

Honestly, at $1300...who cares. BM is trying to get more people into the resolve ecosystem and as others have said it isn't actually a cost for them at this point to include the software.

God Damn you are a Hard Headed person. You must be part Irish LoL. I guess that means you are not buying then. I know 1000 bucks is sort of your line drawn in the sand!

If you need the software or not, it’s irrelevant to the price of the camera.

I "think" I remember reading that the sensor was enclosed somehow, and that the air was circulated around the protection??

The BM production Cam has a similar design. You can see right through from top to bottom of it. I can only assume the other cameras in their catalogue have similar designs. I think it'll be OK. Maybe not in a sandstorm, or very heavy rain, but there will probably be some kind of raincoat available for those situations soon after release.

This is my third TEST with EOS C200 in RAWlight:

If you are lucky it might come earlier than September, but you look like a couple of cm here and there will not kill you

Not the smartest people at such events. I wasn't aware that HLG - us poor men's HDR - was in the menu:

All of that was actually quite normal/usual, nothing too acrobatic special, treatment of normal-aspirative cinematic undertaking: controlling light, choosing proper angles, grading with masking blown-up areas etc.. made by one of the cameras quite suitable for such cinematic-undertaking... and that's the reason why I posted it, as answer about classification cameras as (un)cinematic by some minuscule differences in that or that side, which proclamation made in us impression of higher self-competency. Because it seems that you enjoy, I'll be free to put one more, and actually more serious/ambitious cine-undertaking example than Neumann's, that may be worth of attention...

...you two Don and Jon, you are a must... LOL : ) This forum would become another one without any of you ; ) Cheers to both, E :-)

Maybe not many people know, 16D has its twin named 35J. 16D usually means Sankor's 16D. And don't confuse with Kowa 16D, which is smaller lens.

Think Larry Jordan nails it on the head with this on ProRes: https://larryjordan.com/articles/pick-the-right-version-of-prores/

Native ISO of 3200 plus a speedbooster is plenty for low light.

sure that this camera is ugly

Used to order from Taobao/Tmall quite a bit. You'll need an agent/mediator (I did one time try myself, never really worked out). There used to be MisterTao that spun off from the Buyincoins website, but they've gone back to just being a webshop. I've mentioned an alternative on this site once already:

mmm.... BM says "The carbon composite material consists of a high strength polymer that’s reinforced with carbon fibers". Which looks like thermoplastics with tiny carbon fibers REINFORCING IT, (as they do with GLASS FIBERS) not like CARBON FIBERS layers filled with resins as it done with proper commonly known as "carbon fiber"...2 different materials AND process (injection moulding vs laying by hand layers of carbon fibers cloth into moulds).

You might be used to associating HDR with photos and have been programmed to dislike that, as we all know that can be way overdone. HDR with video is nothing like that though, you should give it a fair chance. It's got little to do with extreme gone wrong photoshops... and more with actual high dynamic range, which is more about nuance than it's about something screamish.

There are two main ways sensor size can affect the maximum resolution: 1) The ability of a lens to resolve finer details than the distance between two neighboring pixels. --> There are plenty of lenses that support far higher resolution than 4K so that's not a limit 2) The ability of pixels to collect enough light. --> Current m43 sensors with large pixels offer ~13stops of dynamic range and excellent color information. So in short, in that article just suggesting that for 4K someone needs a LF sensor, is plain wrong and marketing bulshit. In general systems are far more limited by their processing pipeline than optics/sensor performance, and that's why offering RAW is such a big deal.

That Bob Caniglia from BMD about 1:25 minute also states 400 and 3200, so I know nothing for the subject matter :-)

I agree with your list, but everyone should do their own tests with LT. The image quality there is pretty dreadful even compared with XDCAM and AVCHD, but for some content that's fine and it's much better than standard definition or something. While it's true that transcoding can't improve an image, I was comparing AVCHD vs ProRes variants from a clean (uncompressed) HDMI output. In my experience, AVCHD was still better overall than any ProRes codec below 422 HQ. Except with foliage. Here's a test that closely mirrors my findings, but theirs is much better!

Nikon has been using the same stuff in the front half of the Nikon D810 for years. This has been proven to work. It isn't going to be a toy camera, holy crap. How many magnesium alloy cameras do you think Canon makes? The sky is falling.

But what you held wasn't what they'll ship. The models that we get will be made with a different material, so I wouldn't judge that too quickly for now.

Simply delicious... LOL :-) Source: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?359866-4k-bmpcc&p=1986749617&viewfull=1#post1986749617

It was the default setting on the camera, UHD 4K instead of DCI 4K, all of them are ISO 3200. They didn't tape the card slot, so...

Trust me, I have my hands on some ProRes and DNG materials from the camera (acquired from NAB), it's clean af up to about 6400. Noise pattern is very pleasant fine grain, due to lack of compression obviously. The sensor is confirmed to be IMX294CJK, it's the STARVIS line from Sony Semicon with BSI design, originally intended for low light surveillance. ProRes screenshot: