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Can this please get back to Panasonic FF. I don't give a shit about these average memes on Youtube.

With all due respect, you need to stop doing this thing where you go on long diatribes based on assumef information that isn't even true. The Varicam lines have been very popular sellers, especially the LT. Not FS7 or C300 monster-sales, but for episodic, spots, and doc, they're seeing plenty of professional use. Do your research before you make sweeping statements about sales figures or market popularity.

Some screens from my latest job. A7III 1080p120. Straight from camera, no post production. I still need to edit haha.

It is a sony sensor. @DBounce thats correct, two models, one for 30p and one for 60p.

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Well, it doesn't balance out the box, you need to add weights, but that's not a huge issue. I made a weight by taping things to the arm until it balanced, weight it all and then went to the hardware store and bought the smallest, thing I could that weighed around the same. Now I just use velcro to put it on quickly and easily. Works like a charm and it's actually easier to fine tune the balance as you can move it up and down the arm. For me, this is a great solution and I don't mind at all. Others might find it a turn off. Once it's balanced, it's great fun to use, and so far I've always been happy with the results. The rest is all personal preferences. For example, the Sigma 18-35 1.4 is a long and heavy lens. To centre the weight of the camera, you have to move it so far back on the mounting plate that it ends up on the back motor. So you can't use this set up despite it being within the weight limits. That's a shame. But the fact the gimbal is small enough for that to happen is a big reason for many people to buy it. It fits in my bag without a problem. So if you want to use long heavy lenses, you're going to be disappointed. If you're using short or light though, it's fantastic. My favourite so far to use is the nifty fifty, but due to its field of view, it's more susceptible to showing shakes than a 10mm lens would. I'm not a fan of those ultra wide shots, and the shakes I'm getting don't seem to be too distracting. Perhaps the Sigma 30mm is a happy medium, but it's also makes the light gimbal and the light camera heavy on the arms. Again, this all depends on what you want out of the gimbal. As for wobble. I'll let you judge that for yourself. For me, it's more than acceptable, especially if you're filming slowmo or adding a touch of stabilisation in post. This clip was shot at 48fps in DCI ProRes LT with the 50mm at f4. The first half is played at 24fps and then after is the same edit played back in real time (real time at 2:09). I'm filming an event this weekend solely with the P4k, and plan on using the gimbal for close to all of my Broll shots. Due to the how it'll be distributed, I will be shooting slowmotion, but will try to chop and change between 30 and 50mm to get a nice, fair comparison of the two. If I can I'll upload some of the footage, but either way I'll report back on how it was to work with for an extended period.

just a heads up to read the fine print. this is a gray market camera. no manufacturer's warranty from panasonic. it looks like the retailer offers its own warranty instead. only mentioning so people can make an informed decision. I *am* tempted to buy a second EVA1.

You need to conform to 24p. Don’t slow it down with slow motions tools, conform the media. I don’t use revolve but in premiere you right click on the clip in the media window. I am sure it is done similarly.

I just picked one of these up to serve as a b-cam/gimbal cam alongside my Ursa Mini and ran the first tests with it. First impressions; it's a beast. The ergonomics are spot on and as a former 5D2 user I feel right at home with it. The UI is essentially the same as in the Ursa Mini which is nice. And coming from the Ursa, and BMCC2,5K before that, the low light capabilities... they're just like, damn. I just want to go all run 'n gun and shoot my next short with all natural light. I ran a test on how far I could push it while still getting a clean image - ended up fitting it with a speedbooster and a Pentax SMC 50/1.2. I was able to ETTR at 50fps in city areas, and shoot comfortably in even extremely dim locations. In fact, I had to stop down/up the shutter speed on several occasions. The image wasn't 100% clean though - I'm assuming it's like in the previous BMD products, in that noise reduction is only applied in prores. I shot RAW so I had to do some cleaning up in Resolve (a process I've accustomed to with previous BMD products mind you - but in ISO 800 in their case), but the image did clean up very nicely and retained all the detail. It's probably the first time I'm seeing an actual cinema grade camera do low light this well. I felt that I could use a reflector to bounce the available light and the camera would actually pick it up. Attached two snaps from my short walk with the camera. Not very cinematic - but rather tests on how much data I could get from available nightime light. Quite a bit, even in indirect light, as evidenced by the second picture.

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I received my Z6 the other day and this is my quick first impression and usage after 2 days. Before I pre-ordered the Z6 I rented the Sony A7III and used for a month and was considering buying it. The Z6 feels very solid in the hands. You immediately get the confidence you can use it in any weather condition without worrying too much. It fits well in the hands. The EVF and screen in nice, big, and sharp. The buttons have a nice feel to it. The menu; a lot simpler than the Sony. I have to say I am fairly familiar with Nikon menu system from past usage but if you were to give both cameras to someone who has never used a Sony or Nikon before, their learning curve on the Nikon menu system will be fast. Within 30 mins, I will say I was very comfortable with where everything was on the menu. I only have the 24-70 f4s lens and I am quite impressed with that lens and the IQ I am getting with the Z6 and that lens. Even more impressive is the low light with that F4 lens. This camera may turn out to be the king of low light with other cameras at that price point. Video AF; sorry Panasonic I am so happy for you for your latest firmware update on the GH5/s but Nikon completely beat you at video AF on their very first attempt on a mirrorless camera! It’s quite impressive, I dare to say on par with Sony. Moreover, you get face detect AF when shooting 4k! On the video side of things, this camera is very capable! Of course, it doesn’t have the advanced video tools the GH5/s has but for most of the hybrid shootings I do, I will be ok. I wish this camera had is eye AF like Sony and better tracking when shooting stills. Eye AF is quite handy and useful when it works. There is quite a latency with this camera with what you see on the LCD and EVF, worse than any camera I ever used. I am still testing to see how long the battery will last compared with my time with the A7III, but I don't think it will measure up to the A7III. Overall so far, I think Nikon did an ok job with their first attempt in the mirrorless world. Are there things that need improvement, most definitely! For my kind of hybrid shooting, I think the Z6 will keep me going for a while. One last thing, I like their mobile phone and camera app (Snapbridge). The only camera that compares is Panasonic. (I have tried Fuji, Sony, Panasonic, and Nikon) It still amazes me how camera companies still haven’t yet made communication between the camera and mobile device effortless. Off to more shooting and testing.

My Z6 came in yesterday after much delay. I plan on shooting connected to our Ninja V. I suspect this will give it a decided edge over the GH5/S. Rolling shutter is not a issue in our use case. I think the ergonomics will grow on you. The GH5/S is a great video camera, but I suspect the Nikon will be the more balanced hybrid. That said, we just got this camera, so our opinions may change.

I was pretty busy yesterday with other things. But I did have a brief play with the Z6 in as fairly dark room. I took pictures at 6400 ISO. They came out really clean. I have a feeling this cameras is going to live up to the hype regarding low light performance. Some notes: the camera feels light. It's clearly well made, but not heavy. The only lens I've attached so far is the 24-70mm native lens... I like it. I love the size. I mostly shot with the Canon yesterday as the Nikon was charging. The Nikon feels like a feather next to the 1DXMk2. As we bought the Nikon to be a go everywhere camera, the small and light combination checks a lot of boxes for us. I usually associate light weight with poor build quality... in most products. But this is strangely not the case with the Nikon. The camera is solid and of high quality. Holding it you feel confident that it will not let you down. I can report that I do like the ergonomics, but I do miss the battery grip with shutter button. We always opt for a battery grip on our cameras. Nikon missed out on some tidy profits by omitting this option with the Z6/7. I suspect I will miss the portrait tilt of the X-T3. Who knew that was a thing? But once you've had a screen with portrait tilt, it's something you realize is pretty handy. I don't miss the flip out screen of the GH cameras. I always use an external monitor or recorder when shooting video anyway. Single card slot is a non issue for me. Menus... I like the menus... they seem really easy to navigate. The learning curve is not too steep if you are familiar with modern cameras. It's a very different camera than the X-T3 and Canon in feel and handling and vibe. It beats the GH5/S in hand. Overall, I would say it reminds me most of the Sony... if the Sony was more refined. I plan to do some shooting with the Z today. I need to understand how it compares to the Canons... both the 1DXMk2 and C200. I want to know how easy it is to match the footage with the Canons... the C200 in particular. I know the C200 can be made to look like the Nikon... RawLite has a lot of depth. But can NLog bend to look like the C200 without breaking? A word about the EOS R... that was the camera we wanted to purchase. The cats out of the bag. I'm confident it would have matched perfectly to the C200. But Canon just had to pull a Canon. Cropping the 4k video to essentially m43... but without the ability to offset the extreme crop with a speedbooster. Hey Canon, Nikon and Fuji send their regards. With that out of the way, I REALLY want to love this camera. It's off to a good start, I'll know more soon.

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From these posts: ...I've decided to launch this thread, I guess a lot of us are looking for. Your tip(s)?

There is no real true info on the cameras. I don't really see why this thread exists at all to be honest. What do people expect it to be, a total guessing game. What is the prize for winning LoL..

Yeah, they confirmed this to me today. Can’t say I’m too interested with such a small sensor. I guess it must have been all that was available to them. But had they had gone the opposite direction and installed a S35 sensor I suspect many would be take notice of this camera.

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It's not supported, and as far as I know, it's not supported on any gimbal. The camera controls don't work via USB, so it can't be supported unless the gimbal has bluetooth controls as well. Even the focus on the Ronin S doesn't work with the P4k - until they release the mechanical system. I was just showing that the camera can balance on the Weebill and the gimbal isn't 'too light' for the camera, as you said it was. Not trying to argue, just correcting information that I thought was incorrect. I'm extremely happy that the light camera works on the light gimbal, and when the follow focus is available in my country, I'll be even happier

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What lenses do they have? If just a kit lens, then I feel there is no reason to stick with Canon. Get them a Panasonic G85 instead

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikon_1_series It's not their first though, I don't understand why people keep saying that. Nikon was quite early with the 1 series, it's just that they developed completely independent of what customers wanted and the product kinda bombed.

To me it looks like there's minimal NR going on with CRL and it's most noticeable in the shadows. I'd be interested to see what you find when you get to looking at your files.

Speaking of higher end film, movie cameras. Interesting collection of graphs about the Movie Industry. https://www.statista.com/topics/964/film/

I found it under Clip Attributes. I simply changed it to 24p and it is playing in slow motion now. Thanks.

Well there is the Biotar 75mm f/1.5, but it is like 2500 bucks.

My advice is to ignore the titles of videos, and to only watch the ones that seem interesting. They're a stills photography channel, I wouldn't bother watching if they had a video about something that only applied to a type of stills photography that didn't interest me. In terms of squirrels, memory is different to attention span, but sure, I'll stop vilifying them publicly

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That second shot looks like a grab from Wes Anderson's 'Fastastic Mr. Fox' or somekind of stopmotion movie. Love it.

I agree, everytime I take it out, even for a simple walk around the neighborhood it keeps impressing me. Oh oh and that second shot there is so mysterious and sinister! LOVE IT!

No. The EVA has a 10-bit 4K codec, which Sony makes you step up to the FS7 to get. The FS5 only offers 10-bit 1080p and 8-bit 4k. I'd also pay more for the EVA color and dynamic range over an FS5.

I agree with you, it’s a more balanced hybrid than the GH5 imo, hence why I bought it. But the gh-series have been video oriented since forever and it’s obvious that Nikon has some catching up to do with regards to tweakable settings, codec etc. Still a lot better in the autofocus department though Something i really love with the X-T3 is the possibility to lock auto white balance. Why aren’t more camera companies implementing this? It’s perfect for docu work.

I thought you were going to pull a Charlton Heston with your a7s: "Pry it from my cold, dead hands!" Maybe @Andrew Reid can start working on a NEW camera profile called a7SHD where we can give new Fuji, Nikon and Canon cameras those lovely green skin tones from the original a7S???

I just got my Z6 and so far in terms of output I think it has the Sony beat (at least the ones I’ve owned and used, a7rIII and a7III). The video autofocus seems to be on par with the Sonys. Colors out of camera are nicer, the IBIS better, the flat profile with sharpness dialled down looks more organic with a decent dynamic range considering it’s not a true log profile. The Z6 however still has nothing on the GH5-series when it comes to rolling shutter, overall useability and codec.

Oh I am not surprised it is pretty good. BMD has good Color Science that is for sure. And with ProRes, Raw it is a winner no doubt. Even at 12bit the Raw is some great stuff. And the bRaw thing ought to make it really useful. I still may look into it. You guys need to get some footage up on here for us to view. I sold my Sony a7s and all my Sony lenses, battery grip this week. So I am in the market LoL.

I call it the 'zeiss look' slider

Anyone familiar with or have used Feiyu Tech gimbals to comment about their quality? Another gimbal option for the BMP4K I just stumbled across is the Feiyu Tech AK4000 and I am actually considering or the Moza Air 2.

pocket 4K in stock.

How... you said!? : ) To be honest, I find it the best compromise so far... my purchase these days for sure:

Some SOOC frame grabs from a few a73 shoots recently, including a brewery and a beer festival. Sometimes the job aligns with something you actually enjoy - everyone wanted to contribute to my library of pour video, and I couldn't let the beer go to waste. Profile is EOSHD Pro Color. Lens is Tamron 28-75/2.8, my new go to run-and-gun lens. Chris

1,100 g for Moza Air 1 as much as Zhiyun Tech Weebill Lab with the quirks. Moreover, much more affordable... ; ) Who from here has one to tell us about?!

I've heard Pocket 4K has been used on Moza Air which handles more than 3 Kg BTW: https://www.gudsen.com/moza-air-spec Seems the more interesting and most affordable solution for this camera by now. Any thoughts from any users here? What about how much hard is to set it up?

"It's a bit like Frankenstein..." (from minute 8:21) LOL : ) @Kisaha You're right, man! : )) We pay we want SOC metamorphosed to SOG : -D

For a simple reason, the matter is not centered on weight but form factor, that is, in two words: design and size. That's all! : ) Seems the doubt is most likely cleared up. Hopefully, Crane 3 LAB addresses the Pocket 4K... without quirks.

According to this video from photokina, the Weebill comes with the follow focus and the WiFi streaming thing as standard. This seems like a very hard gimbal to beat for its weight class. In fact, I just placed my order and should receive it around the 14th November.

BTW as usual, your perspective rocks, my friend ; )

Dji ronin s is "huge and heavy" ( = well, not really, but you get what I mean) and Crane 2 also. Weebill is 300-3000g and 1.3Kg, the next tier is from 4.6 (Crane 3) to 6Kg (next Moza). An example of random new mirrorless full frame reality. The Nikon Z7 is 675gr (including batteries and memory card) and the Nikon Z 24-70mm 4f is 500gr, that is 1.5Kg (lightly rigged). A speedbooster is 170gr, a lens could be from 150gr to a kilo, how much the P4K weights? Can't seem to find that info anywhere but can't be heavier, or mich heavier than the Z7, so we are talking for 2Kg here, so well into the 300-3000gr limits. Now, for people consider rig-ing an EVA or FS5, then yes, buy the bigger one, and good luck holding it for more than a few dozens of seconds!

My best bet is for Moza Air X. https://www.gudsen.com/moza-air-x Pity comes a bit late to 2018 party... The race will be with the most serious contender these days, even though a fair doubt on the Pocket 4K balance over there: https://www.redsharknews.com/production/item/5878-zheyun-techs-highly-compact-weebill-lab-gimbal-shows-gimbal-innovation-isn-t-dead In the meantime, my fav is the more dual handle versatile a2000: Here's a comparison by Antos: https://tomantosfilms.com/16385/gimbal-shootout-moza-air-feiyu-tech-a2000-zhiyun-tech-crane-v2/

http://blog.cvp.com/2018/10/blackmagic-pocket-cinema-camera-4k-gimbal-compatibility-test/

Gotta thank you all for everything i could learn since i`ve found and started reading this site and this forum. I'm finishing film school right now, barely finished editing my first Doc, and today is a great day for me. Since i've started reading Andrew`s posts on the blog and following the discussions on this forum i started to fall in love with anamorphics. They're pretty hard to find around here and i wanted a small lens, that could fit well in my G7. 1.5x is what i aimed for, as the 4K photo on the G7 only does 30p, and i really preffer the 24p look. After some months monitoring the biggest used gear website around here i've finally came across an YashicaScope 8mm. Converting the price to dollars, it costed me only 100$ and got no scratches, fungus, os dust. It`s crystal clear. Loved that thing and it weights so low it doesn't even make a difference. Unfortunatelly i couldn't buy a clamp yet, as they're non existent around here and doing imports this time of the year in my country is know your gear is gonna fall into a black hole to never be seen again, so all the tests i've done are with me holding the lens with my hand in front of the camera, no good for alignment. But i wanted to share them with you guys, as without everything i've read here along those years it simply wouldn't be happening right now and it is time in wich i could be helping other people, just as you all helped me along those years. I've tested the lens with the 14-42mm kit lens, as it was my only lens wich the frontal element was small enough so i could press the anamorphic against the lens without risking to scratch it. I could go as wide as 25mm without major vigneting problems (theres a slight vignete at 25mm, but if you crop from 2.66 to 2.39 it should be gone). It is double focus and i'm still trying to figure out how to do it right, but as it is just a 1.5x lens the focus peaking still worked well enough on most of my shots and it's been easier than i thought it would be, with a clamp it should be better, as i won't have to be holding the lens with my hand. It seemed sharper than i thought it would be based on the few tests i could find on youtube. Here are some frame grabs. First one is 25mm, so you guys can see the slight vignetting. Shots 2, 3 and 4 are at 35mm, it seemed to me a good spot to shot, as it got no vignetting at all. The last image is at 42mm, the end of my zoom. I've shot all the images on f/5.6. Tried to bring my 85mm f/1.8 with speedbooster to test, but its frontal element was to big and the light leaking made the image a total mess. I did just some quick grade using filmconvert and lumetri. Hope you guys like them and sorry about my english, writing and speaking aren't things i fully domain.