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I am using G80 for like half a year or more for everything including paid work: https://vimeo.com/martinmatej And I still love it! I am handheld kind of guy and the ibis works super well. I also use it with viltrox EF-M2 adapter speedbooster. I had a problem with stabilization on already stabilized lens when the switch on the lens disables even the ibis in G80 or when I left the stabilization switch on canon 70 - 300 4 - 5.6 on the camera freezes after few seconds of filming and then I have to detach the adapter and restart the camera. But when I use it with sigma 17 - 50 2.8 Ef mount version with no stabilization on the lens just stabilization in G80 is on it works perfect. I also had some problems with that adapter and vintage glass without electric contacts so be aware. But all in all the G80 was and still is a great camera that I bought second hand for like 500 USD. If you want 4K 60p you could go for second hand panasonic G9 which costs somewhere between G80 and GH5.

If you want a much cheaper alternative to the Shure mic pre-amp then have a look at the Behringer UM-2 which will get you what you need for not far off a third of the price. With regard to fitting out the recording environment, have a look at someone like BoothJunkie on YouTube for some insights into low cost DIY options using quilts etc. Reflection filters such as this have come down in price quite dramatically in recent years and can help in producing a more controlled sound in less than ideal environments. They can be had on Amazon for under £40 but their effectiveness does vary so obviously check out reviews on there and on YouTube for specific ones. One challenge you will face though combining being the performer and the recording engineer is having the computer as your recording device. Having it in the same room will likely throw up issues regarding noise and also the ergonomics of where you are going to place it so that you can operate the mouse/trackpad/keyboard to control the recording software. The option here if you have an iphone/ipad would be to use something like DuetDisplay so you can operate the computer remotely from in the booth. Another option would be to control it from in there from a small USB control surface like the Korg NanoKontrol The advantage for the Korg is that it is far better ergonomically as it is giving you dedicated controls for playback, recording and looping (which will be important when you are getting a section right) as well as control of your recording level and monitoring level for the backing track etc. It will also find utility of course in the same roles when you are doing your final mix and make the whole thing a far more intuitive experience. Price wise, its about £40 so although its twice the price of the DuetDisplay its still not too bad at all Now......having said all that... If it was me, I might actually consider going a different way and getting a more dedicated multitrack music recorder like the Zoom R8 This will give you the whole thing in one package. It is small enough and quiet enough to be used in the booth with you, has all the dedicated controls you need to combine being the performer and the recording engineer and also has in built effects to get you where you need to get to sonically a bit quicker. Even if you didn't want to use its internal recording then you can use it as an audio interface to your computer (as per the Shure/Behringer interfaces) and as a control surface for the software (as per the Korg NanoKontrol). Or any combination of both, so you could create the backing tracks on the computer, transfer to the Zoom to add your vocals, then transfer back to the computer to finish off and use the Zoom as a control surface. In addition, it also has a drum machine and sampler built in so can actually be used to help create the tracks in the first place. It is powered by mains or battery so can also be put to work as a field recorder for your films if need be. They are currently around the £200 mark (though you can always find a lot of used ones cheaper) so its more than the price of just adding an audio interface and controller to your computer but if you can stretch to it then I think you would find it a much better solution for what it is you are trying to do. https://www.zoom.co.jp/products/multi-track-recorder/r8-recorder-interface-controller-sampler

I can't speak to the G80/85 but as a recent GH5 buyer I can confidently say that the lenses are the other half of the picture, and if you have to stick to a budget then put some aside for great glass. I've just done a couple of trips with the GH5, Voitlander 17.5mm f0.95, Helios 44-4, and SLR-Magic 8mm, and the stand out aspects to me are the DR, the 10-bit capture, and the three lenses. The 8mm has that WOW factor for scenery and landscapes, the f0.95 gives that lovely DOF on the MFT sensor and great low light performance (better than the human eye), and the Helios gives a soft rendering that really looks like film and without a speed booster gives a 116mm equivalent and rounds out the lens kit. I have no idea how much you sacrifice from the GH5 with the G80/85 but I get the impression it's not so much? Edit: I shoot hand-held and the IBIS worked spectacularly well, at 58mm in gusty winds on a small boat the locked-off mode gave rock solid landscape shots even with the ETC digital zoom mode making it something like 160mm equivalent, it was just incredible.

Picture profile/HLG It is preferable to use a preadjusted profile like Cine D when using 8bit. Too much post on 8bit vlog can produce colour artifacts. If using 10bit then whatever you want.

Looks like DJI have been testing some new batteries that can apparently keep their drones up in the air for 24 hours and counting. The new geo-fencing app seems like it could do with some fine tuning though....

Completely agree with you ?

i did alexa mini, c300 raw to pro res hq 4k and c300 internal with noise reduction set to minus 1 (new firmware setting) yea but you can get an alexa classic for 20k - even though it's a useless heavy brick that is power hungry and can't do more than 1080p

As misguided as spec wars are, they do create a market for older models that are good enough and that get discounted officially or on the used market after the new generation is out. It is just up to out psychology to accept the products that fulfill our needs and not our wants for the newest and the best.

@IronFilm can tell you the cheapest way to hook up the mic to your computer. In terms of making a sound booth, you want to pad it out with as much absorbent material as possible, blankets and foam mattresses work well, but use whatever you have. The heavier the fabric is the more likely it is to absorb sound. Of course, rappers have recorded in all sorts of circumstances and on all sorts of equipment, including their iPhone in a walk-in-robe, so experimentation is the key. Remember that music is creative so it's not about quality so much as getting the sound you like, so experiment with everything you can think of. Also, performance is more important than the sound, so if you don't perform well squatting in a wardrobe covered in blankets then change it up. Best of luck!! I wrote electronic music as a hobby for about ten years and when you make something that sounds great there's no better feeling!

No one stated the obvious so far. It is a shame they did not put a round a eye piece on the two cameras.

My G85 is a great camera. While I'm personally looking at upgrading to the Blackmagic Pocket 4K sometime next year, I'm definitely keeping my G85 around for a long time. It's a reliable workhorse. Yep. The results I get out of my Helios 44-2 and Minolta Rokkor PG 50mm f1.4 are really great with the G85. Gotta be sure you're able to deal with the significant crop factor, but the IBIS on the G85 really does help it pair well with those vintage lenses.

Well if you have been a Canon 5D user you are Still waiting for a FF 4K camera.

Surprisingly, even two years later, I think the Panasonic G85 is still the best sub $1K camera to buy secondhand. You need to push up beyond the $1K price barrier before you find better cameras: X-T3 / GH5 / BMPCC4K (each around US$1.5K ish) I'll likely pick up for my vlogging a G85 myself on eBay in 2019 when I find a tempting enough price.

Moza Air 2 just arrived. I really like the screen and being able to set options on the gimbal, very convenient. I also like how fast it is to adjust speed and turn motors on and off. I much prefer the flexibility of this compared to the traditional style. The grip is more comfy for me than Ronin-S but you can't detach it so it's more annoying for storage. Right off the bat I had to offset the roll axis though. Ronin-S feels a bit more solid, and I can wrap the Ronin-S grip, but for Moza Air 2 you can't do this since the battery compartment opens there. Ronin-S also much more stable for vehicle use (best gimbal I've used so far for vehicles). Moza is better than the older Zhiyuns (less tilt when moving) but it's still there and far behind Ronin. Most people won't notice especially if they are just walking around, but once you get on something motorized it becomes more apparent. My Ronin-S has been fine, I just don't like how annoying it is to change settings and speeds. I've done 2x 6hr events with Ronin-S and yeah it's pretty heavy but still manageable. I rest by either setting it down or lodging it in a one of those hip mount thingies (the tripod legs go into a belt mounted pocket, takes most of the weight, useful for static shots or for resting). In terms of stability I have to say the Ronin-S has been very good in terms of keeping horizons level and pointed where you want it (of course could be better, but way better than anything else I've used), much better than older Zhiyun and this Moza unit. I honestly thought the Moza would be much closer in performance due to how similar they look but this is not the case at all. If only they had made changing settings more convenient! Alas. Maybe next time. Anyways, need more testing before more comments!

Interestingly in his recent teardown of a Canon lens, Roger from Lensrentals says two things: So it seems other notice too

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this time of year $5 is about all thats left

I help support like 8 different people on YouTube through Patreon and most of them use a Canon 80D as their main, but all of them seem to have a DJI Drone of some kind, and a GoPro and about the only way you can see a difference is yeah it is a overhead view so they are using the Drone, and yeah they are underwater so they are using their GoPro. Even some Smartphone footage thrown in at times. Now granted they are not shooting Hollywood movies, but most of them are really well done. I think particularly 4K has leveled the playing field and it is getting easier to interlace footage now. Is it perfect, no, is it good enough probably yes for most amateur, semi Pro stuff. Wedding event people have been using all kinds of different stuff combined for years. Look at even the crash cams big time movies use. Sure it is in short cuts, but if the story is good enough you really don't pay that much attention to camera work unless it just sucks being out of focus or blurry as heck etc.. Video has come a Long way in the last few years. It is all becoming pretty amazing on big and small devices. If you have skill you can do about anything.

I am surprise this encoding topic do not have its own thread. What I can say, is not that someone have computed how much you can (or want to) compress in 100MBps or 240MBps, but how much processor power it will need for real time, be it 4k30p12b444, 8k or else. Just encoding 4k24p10b422 on Atomos external recorder get it hot with a "light" encoder as ProRes. Think that with a h265 it will be hotter, at lest the processor, also at this bitrate the quality should be exquisite. For a "light" encoder (or maybe RAW) the problem is to be able to write that info somewhere, as direct to an SSD, so a better encoder is a solution. While I welcome a such encoder, it will take time to have it in prosumer area. Being in hardware IT, a computer powerfull to do it real-time will cost few thousands... just itself, and it is many times bigger than a camera. Reduce it to a photo camera size and will cost much-much more, if available soon. How many can edit "real-time" an 4k stream on his/her computer (no proxy) ? How long it take to have a POST rendered on a 4k video ? Do not forget that sensors get bigger (definition) and quicker, but only few "pro equipment" (I cannot say "camera") are able to record 1080p at high speed as 1000fps or more, and usually for very short time sequences as seconds... We looks like kids wondering some technical miracles, and yes, they will become common in... a... while...

The G85 is still an excellent camera in 2018/2019. For a lot of smaller projects I'll grab it instead of the GH5. IBIS works with vintage lenses, you just have to manually set the focal range.

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Actually his conclusion about the Pocket having better highlight retention than the XT-3 seems a bit skewed. He base's this on having more tools in Resolve, because it's raw. But in fact when you look at the files, the Xt-3 has far more chroma info. Once again, grading in the eyes of someone who doesn't appear to know that much about grading seems to be all based on what button you can click on or what LUT you can apply. Which is just silly as far as I am concerned. If you just look at the files on the scopes you can see that the BMPC4K is clipped more harshly and that it is missing chroma info by comparison. This would be consistent with my experience of BM in general. Images have info, but lack chroma range. Lastly, he incorrectly states that the URSA has 16 stops of dynamic range. No way in heaven this is true. I would be surprised if they have more than 13.5 to be honest...

C5D also doesn't understand how to use a Xyla chart properly. You expose so the brightest chip is just BARELY clipping, then count down from there. Every C5D test I've ever seen clips more than one chip, and I can never figure out why.

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The Feelworld 279s is significantly brighter than my onboard monitor, which is rated at 500 nits. It looks a little green out of the box but has user-configurable RGB sliders and a green-magenta slider so I'll have to tweak a little bit to get the colors spot on.

It's to small for my tastes, I prefer a 7 inch model. Unless feelworld releases their rumoured lut supporting monitor soon, I'm probably going to go with an Ikan dh7-v2(has Lut support), now that my wife is back to work after the birth of our son.

$339.99 here in the US. https://www.amazon.com/FEELWORLD-2200nit-Daylight-Viewable-1920X1200/dp/B07HH1RQSP That's not to bad considering it's a 7" display and has hdmi and sdi in and out.

This isn't really "raw". If it's not lossless, it ain't raw.

Team Sony will have the last laugh