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I should have been more clear with my comment. I meant, in Hollywood standards and the rules of the ASC. I'm barely a competent camera operator and that woman is way more talented than I am. We're all striving to be better at the craft and she deserves and earned the same respect anyone on this forum would ask for.

Right, but the word cinematographer or DP is really just a fancy name for a camera person. Saying it is “nice videography” sounds like an effort was made to sound condensing. All labels aside. Great camera work. Some of those shots could easily be throw into a feature. I think the Komodo does well with the color depth. It reminds me of the richness nighttime scenes have with 35mm. The A7 Sony stuff didn’t look as good to me.

I wouldnt second the assumption of lesser talent at all. It's lack of opportunity and collaboration. In the end Eoshd could develop a bit more into a collab space with meaningful feedback and exercises and experiments plus curated discussions. So how about for all the contributors of this thread, to try to give a meaningful vista a glowy gloomy painterly look, just one framing. Should be possible to attempt.

Yeah 1D C has serious mojo especially in Canon LOG, big fat files full of nice colour and texture, not over processed, not too electronic. I still have mine and will never sell it however obsolete it gets 🙂

@PannySVHS really?! I still think that the 1DC has one of the best 4K images around...

I bumped into this video the other day, which gives a glimpse into the strange way that the A7iv processes it's images in-camera.... Unlike this behaviour, my GH5 is completely consistent in how it treats images with crop factors and resolutions etc, but I suspect that Panasonic is the exception rather than the rule here.

i shot this a while ago on the original bmpcc:

It was priced for Hollywood to use as a crash cam, and for rental houses to buy a handful to rent out. Never intended to be a mass market product. These odd things always end up being the special ones, I forecast 1DC prices will be back up in the $12,000 range come another 20 years as they'll be collectors items (at least the ones still in a good condition).

BM just dropped a bunch of Resolve 17 tutorials on their YT page. Their in house stuff is much better than pretty much any other how to video IMO. Chris

Even though, I don't refer exactly to the cinematography department but, why so much lovely pictures (at times)? If the content is repeatedly a continuous never ending déjà-vu of more the same, ad nauseam, to almost invariably make an intelligent guy or gal sleep? Blockbusters aka Hollywood barely get success to be beyond than a wider audience they need to be up. And this means to shorten the diversity of time and space the cinema is to be able to be understood by as many as possible. Seems a contradiction but it is rather the opposite ; ) This difficulty leads to nowhere or anything really valuable and... new. (EAG :- )

Don't underestimate yourselves guys, the most part of hollywood stuff is plainly garbage (EAG :- )

Agreed. That video alone could get her a job shooting 2nd Unit on a feature. The Komodo looks amazing and for only the double the price of the A7... I love the promo film Jason Momoa shot with his... And this one looks pretty good too... check out the highlights in her hair...

Instead of waiting for a breakthrough in artefact free image acquisition, we could get the creator of the raw recording motion app on board. We could furthermore support his efforts. Maybe the android powered mft camera would record raw with the motion app! https://github.com/mirsadm/motioncam/releases

That's what I've been doing, of course. But Andrew said, "Still looking to branch off my interest from EOSHD and mirrorless cameras so I should get into enthusiast smartphone camera reviews..." And I'm suggesting he do precisely that. A few possibilities: this site could partially morph into a phone review site. The problem is that the name is confusing enough as it is: very little here has to do with EOS, as far as I can determine. Another thought is to approach DXO, to see whether they might be convinced to take a serious reviewer on board. Perhaps the best option would be to find an established magazine, in print or on the web, that would be open to publishing a column by an expert that concentrates on smartphone reviews for actual photographers. Back in the Pleistocene Epoch I used to write for Wired; I no longer know anyone there, or I'd make an introduction. But there are all sorts of appropriate places these days, including YouTube channels. And you're not limited by the genre of publication: I could see this on a photography site, a tech publication, a general magazine (New York, etc.) — *everyone* is interested in smartphones. It's a matter of cold calling — which sounds daunting, but it's how most things happen.

I consider myself to becoming one. I have a lot of respect for the footage and its DP above. As a gaffer I have been an integral part contributing my lights to different DPs cinematography over the last couple of years. We all work hard for the art and dont get paid well often in the microcosm outside the general tv industry. But recognizing the average quality some well paid people produce, I won' t hesitate anymore to call myself becoming a cinematographer. By heart, effort and work ethic. 😊 And regarding framing, lensing and feeling and seeing I would consider you the same:) @mercer I hope to get to post more in the future and to enjoy the effects of exchange and inspiration. Well all could do more of that and remember what it takes to produce material like the og post shares.

I finally sold almost all my gear and pulled the trigger on the A7IV which is probably the most unreasonable option. Main reason, I guess, is the enjoyment I had with the first A7, which was just fun to hold and operate. Other than that, on the plus side, you have a flip out screen and 10bit. On the other side, you'll get a resolution bump that nobody needs – if, you would get an A7rIII for 600 $ less – at the the expense of comparably lackluster low light performance (deplorable) and rs. So, time to get convinced by practice.

I don’t think anyone ever said that... I would have to say this is cinematography, though. She’s using a particular vintage lens, camera, filtration, image processing, and shooting at particular time of day and weather conditions all to get that look. Everyone acting like this is super easy. You’re all literally sleeping and she’s out shooting. 🤷🏼‍♂️ “Oh I could do this for sure. It’s not that good. Nice video.” Weird.