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It was V-Log. This person did another film with the GH6 which looks just as bad, oversharpened with a horrible highlight roll-off, colors etc. Don't know where to start even, but perfect to promote other manufacturer's cameras instead. But "cinematic" since the title says so I guess... Not the camera's fault either, I have a GH6 myself and it has a fantastic video image with a super smooth roll-off with DR Boost On and no sharpening and almost no NR in ProRes.

The DR in that video looks like 8 stops. Not so hot, probably user error, I hope.

@deezid Always good to have you, the grand connoisseur of the cinematic image! I remember your GH4 and GH5 showcases and they were showing off the qualities of these cameras perfectly. So please give us your insights regarding colour, thickness, response in post, comparison to the S line cameras besides lowlight. Better, post some of your stuff. That would be awesome and get more people to buy this camera. I hope you will continue to put out quality stuff like your GH4 Vlog showcase: By the way, this is an example how to integrate footage into the main board instead of burrying it in the shooting section. Padding my shoulder now.🙂 Emanuels post is just as important to remind us that it is possible to screw up the image from the GH6 so badly that we all are protected from spending 2500 USD. Thank you Emanuel, you saved a lot of people a lot of money by posting this youtubers video. 🙂 @Emanuel

Not sure what picture profile they were using but I really dislike the highlight roll off in many of the shots. I am going to guess that it was probably CineD 2 or something other than V-LOG, which from my experience on the S5 and S1, has better roll off . Not saying I could do better than the videographer who shot this. Just saying that with a lot of cameras this has been one thing that bugs me (probably more than it bugs a lot of other videographers).

This is interesting, and is the video referenced by the previous one, and talks about the colour accuracy tests of the FP (at 15:00):

Went back and had another look and yeah, looks like he made a salad out of that... by underestimating! I guess that proves his point even more 🙂

In this day and age, anybody who is having serious issues with the Tascam DR10CS in 2022, I'd recommend they just ditch it in the bin, as we've got so many other affordable and great options. It isn't like back then years ago when the Tascam was the only option! Well, either that or: JuicedLink, bullied by Zaxcom to exit completely the industry. Zoom H1 zombie rig, horrible no-budget setup not suitable for the purpose. Zaxcom, which you have to pay through the nose for.

The lady is really good at being bad. Good acting and casting and great EOS M showcase.

Haha, I know. But he screwed me pretty bad too in a way, like many others, getting me good deals to spend my money on and making me spending and spending... Today I found two LX15, one without a battery, but both for so little money, it´s not even funny! If it is not a scam, that would mean two 4K s16sensor cameras for the price of a used GH2, lol! 🙂 Leica branded zoom lens with 1.4 fstop on the wide end included. Just sayin to get the referrence to the topic of this thread. These Tevidons are hard to mount. You need the Tevidon to C-mount adapter, for which you first unscrew the original mount and exchange it with the adapter. Then you need a c-mount to mft fi. which needs to be deep enough to get the lens to infinity. So basically two adapters, which I got but the mft-cmount one not beeing deep enough. Only thing I got mounted was the 35mm on my Lumix S1. Well.. I´m thinking, who knows who you bought some tasty treats from for little money. I bet you will might have a big smile on your face right now. 🙂 @webrunner5

I have not been impressed by the online footage. With BM cameras it is easy to finde awesome footage for every of their cameras. This one looks pretty good colour wise. That HD 12bit Raw looking pretty sweet. More "thick" colours. Starting to love it. Not a good sign financially. 🙂 excerpt from the DP: *The last three shots were shot in 1080p, which I felt has the most “organic” movement. The last two shots were shot in s35 mode, I left the original aspect(around 3.55:1), no resize to fit the 2.39:1 anamorphic aspect. *Grain added in post. All shot handheld with no rig, just camera and huge 2kg lens. -The dynamic range of the Sigma FP is huge, but you have to prioritize the highlights while exposing; shadows can be recovered easily thanks to the 12Bit Raw. -Dynamic range in 12Bit feels quite similar to Sony FS7MII(just a feeling, no scientific tests). -At ISO 2000, the camera seems to have a better balanced dynamic range, compared to ISO 100 which has no range on the highlights but lots of info down to the shadows. -10bit and 8bit are almost useless, creating artifacts once you start moving any setting.

It is pretty damn easy to confuse the two I will admit that having been guilty on several occasions myself. But I can use the excuse of being old, that does wipe out a lot of guilt. 😄

Marty how can you sleep at night screwing that person so bad lol. 😮

Oh my god even my iPhone 10 was crazy bad compared to the newer ones. You would be Amazed how much better say an iPhone 11 Pro is compared to your 8+! They have moved forward at an amazing pace. I was out with my Canon 1DC a few days ago. God talk about something hard to get great video on. No auto focus using C Log, so trying to keep shutter speed at 50 fps, holding ISO to the best setting of ISO say 400, and no in body IBIS, thing weighs 20 lbs. with the lens it seems like, yeah, I could have shot 5 times as much video on a Smartphone and all of it would have probably been useable, not so much with the 1DC. Times have changed. I am not saying if you get it right on the 1DC it is not going to kill the smartphone, but damn it is hard to make that happen time and time again over and over. Is it worth it for home use? We all have limited time to do most things. Do you want to lug around 10 pound tripod and use a light meter, and have to have an external monitor to see if it is in focus, and make sure WB is perfect on and on to take a few video for a few seconds of a duck lol. Sure who doesn't like a challenge but hell that is getting close to self harm! Yikes.

Any update and footage from users over there? I've found this one:

Hehe, 6.16min all through 6.25min he mixed Mbytes per second up with Mbit per second, f.i. it should be 372 MB per second vs. 150 Mbit per second. 150 MB per second is wrong. 1 byte = 8 bits. So if the enthusiastic youtube presenter and cinematographer would know about that fact, he would be even more exited about "his" massive raw datarate compared to video codecs.🙂 @kye

Haven't watched yet, but the idea of a smartphone with its multiple cameras / focal lengths combined with high-quality codecs from third-party apps or Prores is certainly a compelling offering. There are other issues with these of course, such as: you'd want to use the most recent model for the best optics and sensors, but you'd also want to use the latest one as your actual phone, which means putting it on airplane mode while shooting or risking taking a call or messages while shooting phones aren't designed with enough battery to film hours of footage per day not that easy to rig up either, and if you use cases to protect them from drops then that can also introduce thermal issues (I've overheated phones before while shooting) I think phones are the ultimate suckers in the BS specs race though because they have the worst quality pixels because they're so small. If you don't care about the 8K you still pay for it, both in price as well as quality as downsampling still leaves you with brittle images and poor DR. If someone used a 4K sensor that had much larger pixels, or combined them via dual-gain architecture then you'd get a much better outcome. This video clearly shows that the 8K smartphone sensor isn't actually getting more than about 2K in real resolution anyway after being compressed almost to death, so the only thing that the 8K sensor is making look good is the spec sheet, so going for quality over quantity is actually the only path that will yield higher quality results.

The thing that is hard for me is to buy the several real good quality lenses you need to actually have. These new phones have most of the lenses you need in them already. And there are some really good apps out for them available also.

Thanks, Tim. Much appreciated! I'll pass on your comment to her 🙂

Just got a broken Nikon ED AF-S Nikkor 28-70mm f2.8 D for €99 (The Bourne Lens) that was easy repair 😎

True, I noticed that too but then checked a few numbers and he was right (on the ones I looked up anyway). I was half-tempted with this kind of setup too - 24-105/4 OIS lens for run-n-gun, although I would probably just add the EVF instead of monitor. I would like something a bit faster than F4 though, to get a bit more background separation if I wanted it. FF seems to have a bit of a gap when it comes to fast lenses with OIS... I think this is actually a terrible analogy because it's really the other way around. Most camera companies continue to re-release cameras that are larger than required (like when we had DSLRs with huge chasms inside for the mirror) and old sensors (just look at the Canon APSC lineup!). The FP is a modern camera by comparison, with a modern body optimised for heat dissipation and a sensor optimised for image quality and a codec with the highest outright quality (uncompressed). Here's an example of the size vs heat management involved... It even makes the Sony FF cameras look large: and finally, I haven't found the tests that Justin refers to in the video and verified, but he claims that the sensor is MORE accurate than other more expensive cameras. I think the old=analog new=digital thinking is complete bollocks. I think that it's more that the analog feel comes from a lack of digital distortions and artefacts, which is why an iPhone looks far more digital and awful than a cinema camera, despite both being 100% digital.

Somehow, or another, my YT feed ended up with some F3 videos on it and I was surprised to see how well the F3 uprezzes to 4K. This is the camera that just keeps on giving.

But they are factory ready for shooting video. Just not with a 180-degree shutter. Cell phones, action cameras, dashcams etc all lack NDs, do they not shoot video? Ugly video is still video. I'm not sure we'll ever see hybrid cameras come with built-in NDs outside of a few models that are very video-biased, in the vein of an S1H, GH6, etc. It just adds too much bulk to keep the traditional photo-camera form-factor. You have to have room for an assembly a bit wider and taller than the sensor to completely slide/rotate/flip out of the way. Ideally you'd have a clear replacement to keep the backfocus to the sensor consistent. And this is competing for space with IBIS and mechanical shutter mechanisms. If global shutters ever happen without DR or sensitivity compromises, that would clear up some room I guess. You could use a fixed E-ND that doesn't need to move, but then you're always losing whatever its minimum setting is... a stop, two stops? Low-light sensor performance hasn't improved enough lately to absorb that difference and stay competitive. IBIS is too valuable to photographers (and many videographers including myself) to trade it for ND. Adding an ND to my lens or lens adapter is massively easier than adding and using a gimbal.

If you like lugging around very old heavy cameras, yes.

That is a hell of an update. I bet you all 27 people who have managed to actually get hold of a Z9 will be thrilled. I'm thinking of downloading this update as a precaution anyway on the off chance that, by the time I am able to get hold of a Z9, Nikon's circumnavigation of RED's patents has proven not to be quite as watertight as they must clearly believe it to be. My fanciful idea of getting one in Japan in October looks to be completely doomed based on Yodobashi Camera's site.

Has anyone experienced the ND filter being stuck on their F3? I’m trying to slide the tab to Off, but the filter is still partially showing. I can’t slide it all the way down to off. There’s resistance. Any suggestions for a fix?