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I think I might have just been airing my frustration in general with some of the limitations in codecs in general (on all mirrorless camera brands), and also the overuse of the term "cinematic" by youtubers with a GH6 (or a RED or an Alexa). I guess to me one of the big factors in making something look "filmic" or "cinematic" is how the highlights roll off, especially on the face. I can live with reduced dynamic range and blown highlights, just much prefer blown highlights that don't have that halo of supersaturated color around them. Of course, as you alluded, a lot of that is how well the operator sets exposure (on the face). But I know with my Sony cameras, if I used any profile OTHER than S-LOG 2, I would get nasty super saturated colors when luminesce values get near clipping. (It is slightly better on the S1 / S5 as far as I have experienced, but I almost ALWAYS use V-LOG on the S1 / S5 so I can't really say for sure that the NON v-log codecs are better than the Sony ones in this regard). I am still totally thinking of getting a GH6. I could sell my Oly E-M1 MK II and my three sony aps-c cameras to help offset the cost a bit. But the thing is, E-M1 MK II just works. I don't ask a lot of it (just 8-bit natural profile at 30fps) using the 14-42mm kit zoom lens and it gets the job done. It's the perfect PhD camera (Press Here, Dummy!) I think if I got the GH6 I would spend too much time overcomplicating things :)

There's a bit of buzz building around BM announcing a new camera at NAB. It started in this thread on the BM forums where the release history was outlined by Tim Buttner: UMP Announcements & Releases UM4K: April 13th 2015 - https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/ ... 0150413-05 UM4.6K: Announced April 13, 2015 & Released March 17, 2016 - https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/ ... 0150413-05 & https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/ ... 0160317-01 UMP G1: March 2nd 2017 - https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/ ... 0170302-01 UMP G2: March 5th 2019 - https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/ ... 0190305-01 UMP 12K: July 16th 2020 - https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/ ... 0200716-01 Pocket Announcements & Releases Pocket 4K: April 9th 2018 - https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/ ... 0180409-02 Pocket 6K: August 6th 2019 - https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/ ... 0190808-01 Pocket 6K Pro: February 17th 2021 - https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/ ... 0210217-02 DaVinci Resolve Announcements & Releases Resolve 12: April 13th 2015 - https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/ ... 0150413-01 Resolve 12.5: April 18th, 2016 - https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/ ... 0160418-05 Resolve 14: April 24th 2017 - https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/ ... 0170424-01 Resolve 15: April 9th 2018 - https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/ ... 0180409-01 Resolve 16: April 8th 2019 - https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/ ... 0190408-05 Resolve 17: November 9th 2020 - https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/ ... 0201109-01 ..with the implication that BM have a relatively regular release schedule and that we are either due, or overdue, depending on how you read the timeline. One aspect that was discussed was that BM haven't given any previous PR to anything, which is what they usually do / have done in the past. Then @John Brawley created a new thread talking about how NAB will be the 10 year anniversary of the release of the first BM cinema camera. It starts with this: It was about 10 years ago that Blackmagic truly shocked all by announcing that they had made a cinema camera. Some thought it was a joke. Some said it was a toy. It was announced the first day of NAB in 2012. There were no leaks. It dropped on the floor of NAB like a bomb. This, to me, is an enormous wink and a nod at the idea that BM will announce something big. I have no idea what it would be, but to me there are a couple of key aspects that I think (hope) might play into things: BM discontinued the Micro Cinema Camera relatively recently, and currently have no camera aimed at drones or rigging RED released the Komodo, which seemed to be a GoPro replacement for the cinema industry, and seems to be a popular option (and makes spectacular images) There is chatter about BM putting the sensor from the UMP12K into a smaller form-factor I have no idea if I'm on the right path or not, but it sure would be great if BM released a S35 12K box-style camera with more DR than their other cameras, and would definitely be grabbing the resolution headlines again. Even if they limited the sensor to the 8K mode (which doesn't crop) it would still be a phenomenal camera. But, it's BM, and they like to think big, and for their 10 year anniversary of making cameras, who knows what they'll have up their sleeve. I'm excited!

I see a lot of used BMPCC with broken micro HDMI. It's actually why I haven't repurchased one of them. The screen on the OG Pocket is also total crap. I have heard the sigma FP screen is pretty nice, aside from its lack of tilt. If I get one I will buy the tilt modification kit.

Yeah i guess mini might be ok. It seems like every camera company is in on a big scheme to gimp every camera LOL.

My money is on it being a new selection box.

If you are looking to tame harshness and add density and presence, G-Sonique's Analog Tape ASX-72 is on sale for €18.9 as an intro price for first the 100 customers. This is a Windows only plugin. https://www.g-sonique.com/analog-tape-asx-72-vst-plugin.html I've tried many tape emulations and this is one of the best, especially for not harming the original signal. A great application would be to make an inexpensive camera mic preamp sound more rich and full. If you are not happy with the tone of your audio recording, this will reframe it in pleasing and present manner.

sounds impressive, I want to see it in a 4-6k sensor rather than 8K.

Bill Claff posted the sensor results from the GH6 https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66095681

Fujirumors claims no active cooling... alongside 8K that surely means overheating. As a pro, overheating is my #1 concern. With high-resolution & 10-bit manufacturers really need to factor in air cooling. All the features in the world doesn't mean a damn thing if your camera can't make it through the day without bricking.

There's a big Resolve update being announced in 9 hours. I wonder if there will be any hints or even a reveal today.

I agree with @webrunner5 that aps-c cameras for sony are kind of at a dead end (at least until the whole supply situation clears up, which should be around 2035 or so, if we are lucky). I have been waiting for a Sony aps-c mirrorless camera with 10-bit video since about four years ago. I got so tired of waiting I got the Panasonic S1 and S5 instead.

In the absence of a single thread about the FP, I'll post this here. There is some new content here that I haven't heard before, including references to tests that the FP has more accurate colour than the Sony Venice. For people interested in very high quality images (and uncompressed RAW) this might be of interest. Much more life in this camera yet I think.