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LOG For me there is no substitute to What You See Is What You Get. Whenever I shoot LOG I tend to forget to look at tonality and contrast. Sometimes even a limit on dynamic range is useful because it forces you to prioritise which part of the frame to expose for. Whenever I shoot LOG I tend to get lazy and forget this. I do use a view assist when available or load a LUT onto the camera, but then you are postponing the judgement of what works for a scene to post. And what a fucking nightmare it is choosing LUTs and grading every shot differently in post, when you could have got it all right in camera, in the moment of the shoot! So LOG is overrated and a hinderance. RAW on the other hand, that's much nicer. You don't even need to grade RAW, you can just let the meta data handle it. If there is a white balance change that needs doing, you can do it without weird results. RAW is all about ultimate image quality so give me that over LOG any day. IBIS IBIS is king of ALL the lazy unmotivated camera movement we see today. It's a huge convenience doing away with a tripod, as well as the biggest single loss of the last 10 years! There is simply no substitute. Floaty, warpy, too smooth, too robotic, IBIS has it all in equal measure. The least cinematic camera feature you can choose beyond shooting it all in 30fps! Also when you are sticking something on a tripod that doesn't have IBIS like the Sigma Fp you are actually locked down into one frame. That really makes you think about the composition and refine it, because you're stuck with it! All my early stuff was shot on a tripod. I never recaptured that shooting style with IBIS. Even the slightest small movement detracts from the calmness of a locked down shot. With IBIS you can only fake a locked down shot and everyone knows you couldn't really be arsed to do it properly! 10bit It is hailed as the biggest new feature of modern times and everybody shits on 8bit, but whenever I put the final images side by side from a decent 8bit codec and a modern 10bit one, why do they always look the fucking same? AF A bit like IBIS autofocus is a great shot getter when you're rushing and making a hack of it. I used to use a single S-AF to grab focus before locking it on the GH2 and recording the unfolding scene with the focus not moving. Short of hiring a professional Hollywood focus puller that is the best any of us can do, because as soon as you hand things over to the camera you may as well call it a home movie and be done with it. Oops it's shifted to the background. Oops it's wobbling. Oops the subject has moved but the focus hasn't. Ooops that's not what I meant. Autofocus is an affront to filmmaking. The best AF is too perfect. Nails the subject in focus with no human intention behind the focus pull. If I see another gimbal shot with autofocus I will kill myself. So just to sum up... Maybe we could have an EOSHD challenge... No LOG, no 10bit, no IBIS, no AF, just a tripod, you, a manual focus lens and a camera like the Sigma Fp or Samsung NX1? Let's see how the results look compared to the next day when we all go back to the usual modern style of shooting! And pick the best!

Still love the old 1DC

I don't think IBIS is designed to replace a tripod (although Panasonic has a pretty good IBIS tripod look). It's more for making handheld shooting look great compared to what it used too (even with a IS lens).

Hello everyone. Forum is 50/50 sharing EOSHD with my content. So half the traffic goes to posts on the forum and half goes to my articles and content. I would like to make some changes to EOSHD to make it more sustainable and grow again after a difficult period. 1. Definitely want to keep in touch and talk to my mates here on the forum. So not going to close the place down or suddenly let it go dark. How do people feel about a Reddit group or a Discord server, which are more smartphone friendly and a bit more about realtime chat and problem solving compared to a thread on a forum which may stretch over many pages and takes a lot of time to delve into? Maybe a better medium for lighter discussions and chat? 2. Financial side of EOSHD is not good at the moment. The forum might have to make way for the blog to put the attention 100% on my content. I can't see a viable way to make money from the forum. I don't think I want to put advertising everywhere either. If you can suggest a way to fund the forum and keep it going, I'd like to know your thoughts on that. 3. Small number of regular users are creating most of the content. We need to grow. Any ideas related to this very welcome. I can't really get my head around it. A very busy forum has crossed into that dangerous territory where a very small minority of regular users are making 99% of the posts. We need a more diverse range of topics and to not have the few interesting pieces flooded with 20 pages of armchair opinions 🙂 4. How the forum shares the domain with my own content needs to change especially on smartphones. If anyone can suggest new forum software that integrates seamlessly with a blog I am all ears as cannot seem to find any at all. 5. If forum is to come to an end after 11 years, it will because all replacements, shake-ups, redesigns and all ideas are exhausted and it becomes financially unviable for me to run it. I didn't agree at all with the way Cinema5D suddenly dumped their forum. All that info and all those posts in the bin. I didn't know what the rationale was behind it at all. Selling it to Mitch at Planet5D was a complete dick move. People (and their opinions) are not pawns to be traded around for money. So I am all for constructive criticism on how we can make the forum grow again, be more interesting again and be financially viable. How can we get some of the members back we lost? Why are they not interested in posting here any more? Is the general topic of cameras and video in decline? And let's look to the positives of this place as well. What works best? How can we play to our strengths and be relevant? Over and out. Andrew

Nothing fancy; just some Bose companion II satellite speakers and a subwoofer connected via USB-A.

@Ty Harper I have the same set-up that is perfectly capable of editing 6k multicam edits (S1+S5) in Final Cut. RAM usage gets a little tight sometimes with only 16 gigs, if you're bouncing between multiple applications open at the same time, video editor, photoshop, browser with lots of tabs, etc., but overall it has been a pretty reliable machine for me. I also have a totally maxed out M1 Max laptop and, at least for the edits I do (which is generally your basic talking-head multicam in a 4k project with b-roll overtop) I don't really notice a huge difference between the $4k laptop and the $800 Mac Mini, so I wouldn't be in a huge rush to go splurge on a Studio unless you really want to. I do wish the mini had more thunderbolt IO. I use one port to go to my LG 5k display, and the other port gets used by a 10 gig adapter to my server, so that's kind of limiting, vs the newer apple computers with more IO for connecting fast peripherals, but for the price, it's definitely a good bang-for-buck purchase.

Andrew I think some of this is right, but it really depends on what kind of films you are doing and what kind of workflow you use. I shoot documentary films and for me most of these features if used properly are a Godsend. You are right though, the way most people use them they might as well be a potato. For me, I have a magic color science LUT I use for most of my projects. I load it up in my monitor and shoot 10 bit log on my S1. When I get to post, I drop the same LUT on and do some minor adjustments, pretty easy. This is a look I couldn't get in camera no matter how hard I tried. Again, 10 bit is necessary for this workflow as 8 bit falls apart in log on the s1. But if you are shooting casual films with a baked in profile, then 8 bit should work fine. Just depends on what look you prefer. I do a lot of tripod and steady cam work where IBIS isn't' necessary. But for handheld work, I just can't get over how useful it is sometimes. I can be in the middle of a 10 minute take where my arms are giving out. In the old days my footage would start to get really shaky, but these days I can depend on the IBIS to cover for me. For me it isn't that IBIS is a bad tool, it's just been a problem of people trying to replace traditional tools with it. IF instead of replacing traditional tools, people use it alongside traditional tools, then it becomes magical. Auto focus is another tool that all depends on how you use it. If you take the time to learn it properly and use it correctly, it is immensely useful. Knowing how to setup smooth subject tracking, manually stop it when needed, and tell it how hard to stick to a subject can produce amazing results. But same as the IBIS thing, it has to be used properly along side of traditional tools, knowing when to use it and when to let it rest, and putting the time into learning how to use it properly. I guess all that to say that all of of these tools are amazing in and of themselves if used at their full potential. But you are right, most people don't use them properly and they just become an excuse for laziness.

I've been using the Komodo for the past 6 weeks or so bare bones as a B cam for corporate. I mostly leave the Canon 35mm F2 IS on it and sometimes a 100mm Macro. It really is nice to use, even for corporate where it's just set up for another angle. The battery life on 2x Canon BP-975 is actually pretty stellar. I think I've gotten almost the full advertised 6 hours of run time. The file sizes are decent and the quality is high and malleable even in 6K LQ. The little LCD is really usable and I haven't blown any exposures because of the traffic light system and the color reproduction is excellent with RED's lut or the REC709 decode for quicker projects. I'm going to add the RED handle and a 5" monitor for when I want to get the camera up for higher angles. The internet tests show it with a dynamic range lower than the manufacturer's claims but I don't feel like I need anymore then they are delivering. The roll off is just really nice. The images hardly need any work. Everything they've done with the image quality makes the price justified over the $2,000 - $4,000 range cameras for me. Though financing it is another thing. . .

Exactly, it's about speed. There's no other way to get loads of different shots in a short period of time.

To me IBIS is a God send because my kind of work is fast paced and as such I need to match that pace. IBIS gives me a fighting chance to get stabilized shots filming unpredictable movement, like you'll get in pro-wrestling. The rest though I agree fully on.

It refers to the reflexive and tedious whataboutery responses on forums when someone mentions a camera that doesn't have some or all of the features listed in the original post. In most cases the dismissal of the camera in question based on these omissions is also based on zero actual direct experience with it.

These are demonstrations of a number of aspects of the R7 as a video camera that posters here have asked about, without talk. Use with the Canon EF S 18-135mm with power zoom attachment (look for one long zoom at 0:18): HDR at night, with RF 16mm, f2.8: Tests of human face/eye tracking, excerpted from a music video (the most challenging bits):

Not mine, but there are a few 1080p 8-bit and 10-bit clips here, which might help a bit - https://www.youtube.com/user/LexTNeville/videos Also on 'Optyczne.pl' there is a 1080p resolution test movie (I don't know if any of it is 10-bit) - https://www.optyczne.pl/59.4-Inne_testy-OM_System_OM-1_-_test_trybu_filmowego_Jakość_obrazu.html - and some downloadable 1080p samples here - https://www.optyczne.pl/59.5-Inne_testy-OM_System_OM-1_-_test_trybu_filmowego_Podsumowanie_i_filmy_przykładowe.html

I don't believe that, but at same time not willing to provide a publicity platform for my most hated click weasel competitors, or some guy who wants to flog his LUTs in every post. It isn't too difficult to moderate, the way it works is I have a light touch for about 5 years with someone like webrunner5 and let him speak, then if I find he is STILL flooding the forum worth worthless chit chat after that long amount of time has elapsed I find I have had enough of reading it and say time's up, last orders please, out you go. EOSHD is a site about cameras and shooting with cameras. I don't see why it should be structured differently. At end of the day this is not about me. The forum is the user generated part of the site. It is up to users to ask what THEY can do that's interesting for the forum, not point at the moderator and tell him how he should run the community. Sounds like a recipe for nonsense to me that does.

Panasonic 24-105 and 70-200 both have IS as do the longer Sigma zooms but thats about it. However, the very practical two in one solution for the Fp (or anyone that doesn't want to take the risk of unpredictable and uncorrectable image artefacts from an IBIS system) is the Fotodiox EF-L adapter which lets you use the plethora of EF lenses that have IS, retains the AF capability and also includes a variable ND built into the adapter. For reasons unexplained, but which come with dire warning from Fotodiox, just don't ever ever ever put it on a Leica camera.

Developer options can be enabled so will see if it can be rooted. You could argue this is what the back of most cameras should look like in 2022.

Speaking of attempts to bridge the gap... This definitely should have had more legs than it did! Lovely huge OLED screen. Full version of Android. SIM card slot. It was priced crazily high when it came out and photographers stuck their noses up at it because it didn't have a joystick. Normal people just couldn't afford it or justify it. But I reckon if they had kept this concept going and made a new slimmer mount than NX, with some nice lenses to go with it and full frame sensor, this would have been a long term winner from Samsung. That QX thing was definitely ahead of its time. I can see why nobody bought it though. Not good enough for enthusiasts. Not slim enough for consumers to pocket on a night out.

Panasonic announcing that they are now officially exiting the sub GH6 market completely is the official end of that era. Their rationale is that anyone wanting to take high quality photos and videos will now buy a €1200 smartphone. I'd sooner have a €1000 camera and a €200 phone but I'm not the market so I can see their point. They caused this themselves by still even now having terrible integration with phones when the writing has been on the wall for years about how people would make and share imagery.

Just put mine up for sale today 😞