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Panasonic G9 mk2
Andrew Reid and 5 others reacted to BTM_Pix for a topic
I’ll preface this by saying that that is some spec and it will likely be a very decent camera. However…. A smaller sensor inside a smaller body with smaller lenses at a smaller price was the whole raison d’etre of the Micro Four Thirds system. The clue was right there in the name. Panasonic seems to have looked what BMW has done since it acquired the Mini and thought “yeah, that’s the path for us too”. In a world where their own full frame S5ii exists, let alone the compact APS-C feature laden cameras from all the other manufacturers, I don’t get where they are coming from with their latter day MFT releases and, in my opinion, they have completely lost their way with the system, particularly in terms of attracting new adopters. Even for the old guard, you’d have to be pretty attached to that native lens collection to go in again. Panasonic seem to have a borderline kinky reluctance to refresh the two cameras that would actually cause a resurgence in the ideology of the system as well as sales. Namely, the GX80 and the LX100. Putting a mic jack on them and giving them 10 bit 4:2:2 internal and VLOG would be a piece of piss for Panasonic and they could sell them all day long at their equivalent launch prices. They might have to push the boat out and put IBIS in the LX but I don’t even think that is a deal breaker. I’m at loss to where they are getting their market research from that’s telling them there is. Bigger demand for small sensor cameras in large sensor bodies at large sensor prices.6 points -
It is meant to be announced later today, and things have leaked already... Leaked (translated) specs: Micro 4/3 Live MOS Sensor Image plane phase detection AF Internal 5.7K 60/50p 10bit recording ProRes 5.7K & ALL-Intra 800Mbps via USB-SSD Anamorphic Mode 5.8K 30p 10bit Burst 75fps AFS – 60fps AFC For everyone that wanted a PDAF GH5 v3, this looks like it.5 points
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A GX95 with PDAF and mic in will be perfect.4 points
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Sony Burano : a groundbreaking cinema camera
SRV1981 and 2 others reacted to Trankilstef for a topic
I am very exciting about this one. First camera with IBIS, ND and AF. Perfect choice for solo operator or small teams. 8K, auto ND as in the FX line, etc.3 points -
Panasonic G9 mk2
kye and 2 others reacted to newfoundmass for a topic
It's a necessary evil, as it's required to make the camera competitive in the specs race that people seem to care more about, but we really are continuing to get further and further away from the promise of M43. The lenses, or at least most of them, are still smaller but it's a real bummer that we can't get smaller cameras even if it's at the expense of higher resolutions than 4K. Perhaps it'd be too niche, but a GH5 with updated colors and PDAF in the body of a GX85 at a competitive price would make me consider getting a M43 body again. The GX85 with the 35-100 f2.8 is still one of my favorite combinations due to how low profile it is. I genuinely miss that set up and more than once have found myself regretting selling it.3 points -
Panasonic G9 mk2
Marcio Kabke Pinheiro and 2 others reacted to kye for a topic
That would be super-cool.... but I'd prefer a PDAF GX95 🙂3 points -
I've been wanting to play with digital bolex for a while. Hard to find free time and come up with the project that would justify the rental cost but I'm hoping to get one before they all disappear.3 points
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Sony Burano : a groundbreaking cinema camera
IronFilm and one other reacted to MurtlandPhoto for a topic
I'm veryyyy excited about this. I'll probably never own one—I'm not at that level. But, it shares enough of the FX line's DNA and is cheap enough that I can see myself renting this for bigger projects. Seems like a real winner.2 points -
Performance champion ahead! Impressive results tested by German review site slashcam. They tested more than 2 hours of 4K 50p in the summer heat of Berlin, at 30 degree Celsius and still 3 bars left for the battery status. Camera can record Cine 4K 60p with 600mbps All Intra internally and 800mbps to SSD, also giving Open Gate internal h265 or Prores to external SSD, plus internal Pros HQ in HD. It offers most of the recording option and codecs of the GH6. 4K 120p seems downsampled and the same quality as from the GH6. Dual Gain is available at lower Isos and automtically active up to 4K 60. Pdaf was performing as good ad expected. It's like a GH6 with exellent AF and possibly even better Dual Gain implementation and image quality for video. The camera was running on a beta firmware. Check the website for your own reading pleasure via translate with deepl or other translators if you don't dig German at the moment.😊2 points
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I've just watched/listened to the PetaPixel (Chris and Jordan) and Geeky Nerdy Techy YouTube reviews, and both of them reported that at room temperature anything below 4k120/4k100p mode recorded until the battery died (which I think for 4k60p was around 1h 20m - 1h 30m). 4k120p overheated after about 25-30 minutes. So pretty good I think. Interestingly Jordan said the G9ii might become his favourite everyday video camera - it would be a bit ironic if the G9ii turns out to be a serious GH6 killer, despite being supposedly aimed at stills shooters... Both reviews said the automatic (versus manual on the GH6) 'dynamic range boost' function works well, and also the IBIS is extremely good (as in 'best we've ever used').2 points
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The R5 was a bit of watershed moment because we proved that there was a deliberate obfuscation by Canon but it also shod light on the shilling and/or powderpuff testing aspects of a swathe of the YouTube bros. The reaction from many of them to the original report by @Andrew Reid was particularly vicious and then, sans apology, they then made shameless hay by doing the shock faced testing videos. Never once acknowledging that not only was the camera on fire but also their pants. I think it then died off because it was belatedly addressed through firmware and people shrugged and said "well no one is going to risk releasing an overheating camera again". Neither aspect was re-dressed fully though so it has been waiting to come back again, not least because a lot of the bros have invested serious crypto into those stock footage flames to do the follow up "honest re-test" videos after they've surfed the wave of the initial "reviews". I might be being a bit cynical there though 🙂2 points
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That is where I'm going with this to be honest and, despite all the hand wringing on here about it, I don't think the motivation for change will come until the 10% become the 90%. Maybe the EU will come galloping (or more likely sashaying considering the pace they work at) to the rescue with a standard rating system for cameras denoting the number of overheating shutdowns per hour. Call it the Sum of Heat Induced Terminations and measure it on a 1-10 scale with the higher number obviously being the worst. It would offer more clarity and might actually shame them into doing something about it. "So, Mr Sony, regarding overheating, what is the SHIT rating for this new camera ?" "Oh, its very SHIT indeed."2 points
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Every now and then I go to a party and see someone I haven't seen for a while. They'll often say something like "Wow, how long has it been? Let's see, we last saw each other when..." and I cut them off by saying "Stop - math isn't our friend any more!"2 points
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Cooling fans for camera
ntblowz and one other reacted to Marcio Kabke Pinheiro for a topic
My Ulanzi fan just arrived. Must admit, is a cute little thing - all metal, bright little display, and the flow generated is more than I expected. And the two questions I have about it were solved: - The suction cups will really stick to the back of the cameras? It came with two adhesive stick that you put on the back of the camera, and the suction cups will adhere to that. - How it measure the camera temperatue? There is a sensor in the bacl (looks like a infrared one) to mesure the surface temperature. Will try to do some teste when I have some spare time.2 points -
Z6 is an old camera these days? Man, that makes me feel old now... Not long until we can get an OG Alexa for $2.5K2 points
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The original G9 was released at $1699, and often, it costed $999 at great sales. The G9ii should have been released at $1499, mostly because Fuji, Sony and Canon have alternatives at competiting price points. Though those may have their shortcomings, especially for video features and overheating issues. Panasonic should price this very competitively. And target Indie Filmmakers and Film Students. Forget the photographers for this one.1 point
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Panasonic G9 mk2
Andrew Reid reacted to BTM_Pix for a topic
Sigma really delivered for MFT with their 16/30/56 f1.4 primes but have obviously seen the writing on the wall and only offer the new 24 f1.4 and 18-50 f2.8 additions in X and L mount. Those two lenses would have really rounded out that range for a compact, fast and affordable set. The prices are getting too big as well. The 18-50 f2.8 in X or L mount is £400 while a comparable if slower variable aperture Panasonic 12-60mm f2.8-4.0 in MFT is twice that price. There is still plenty of value in the original pancakes etc of course but it gets pretty expensive pretty fast taking the step above those. That LC-1 they did way back when was a handsome bastard so I'd definitely like to see a modern version.1 point -
Sony Burano : a groundbreaking cinema camera
Trankilstef reacted to A_Urquhart for a topic
It looks like it only has two audio inputs. As a solo operator, I'm using 3 or 4 channels of audio more and more. Apart from that, looks great although I'm not a fan of the EVF. Sony NEED to develop an EVF similar to the one on the Alexa Mini. It's the best of both worlds with an EVF and flip out screen in one.1 point -
Panasonic G9 mk2
John Matthews reacted to Andrew Reid for a topic
They seem to have got into the way of thinking that crop sensor = cut price version of full frame, rather than having them offer portability. The lenses are also getting too big as well! They showed all the way back in 2014 that a Micro Four Thirds sensor could go in something as small as a GM5 or LX100. Since then, it's all about capitulating to the American market which doesn't really go for small cameras. The GH1 and GH2 were typically Japanese and quirky, lovely to use. Then the American Panasonic team got involved and we got the stale GH3. As well as a new GX80 with latest gubbins and a new LX100 I'd love for Panasonic to give us their version of a Leica Q. Sony has the RX1. Panasonic with full frame camera the size of a deck of cards would be great, but their absolutely-not-a-cartel L2 partnership probably puts paid to that!1 point -
To quote old Ben Kenobi, these are not the Lumix cameras I am looking for.1 point
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90% of customers do not care about overheating. Otherwise GoPro would have gone out of business five years ago.1 point
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Math would be my best friend. No more cams for me. Doing the math, I need to sell some. Got a red GM5 with a black 12 to 32mm couple weeks ago. Such a beauty. Cute lil flash and black leather camera case. Time to snap some pictures around the city and have some og ice cream!😊1 point
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...Or even put IBIS and PDAF in a version of the G100... (but the GX80/GX9/LX100 are much better looking cameras from a style point-of-view). If Sony can sell small, expensive and thermally-compromised cameras I'm sure Panasonic could if they had the right product...1 point
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This Italian guy broke the emabrgo prior the launch1 point
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As the G9ii looks like it's using a version of the GH6 25Mp sensor with PDAF added, a GH6ii/GH7 is probably not far away... As an OM-1, G9 and GX80 owner, I'm not really interested in the G9ii, but a GX80/GX9/EM5/OM5 size camera with mic jack and the 25Mp PDAF sensor inside would be very interesting!1 point
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Panasonic G9 mk2
PannySVHS reacted to Andrew Reid for a topic
I really dislike that they rehashed the S5 II body for this. It has no personality or unique appeal, and it isn't smaller than a full frame camera. Bring back the GH1 days Pana!!1 point -
Plus (keeping all the usual good stuff, except very sadly the top display is going 😕 ) : New 25.2 million pixel image sensor New engine 8.0 stops of image stabilization 7.5 steps Dual IS C4K/4K 60p 4:2:2 10bit V-Log 1.84 million dot tilt free angle monitor 3.68 million dot OLED viewfinder Dustproof and splashproof Pre-continuous shooting function Real-time LUT C4K/4K 10bit 120p/100p 8 direction joystick Wifi Bluetooth Recording to a USB drive is cool! Yes, the way I understand is that: 1) G9mk2 is announced and immediately (or fairly soon afterwards) available to purchase 2) while "the development of" the GH6X/GH7 is announced, with their available being either late this year or perhaps next year1 point
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Also, full size HDMI and USB-C 3.2 gen2. Basically, a faster m43 sensor with the body/ processor of the S5ii. You could easily switch back and forth between the G9ii and S5ii and not need to relearn anything. Based on latest rumor, Panasonic will also announce a GH6X/GH7 with PDAF at the same time.1 point
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@IronFilmYeah it's going to be 5 years old pretty soon.1 point