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I had that lens briefly just before I got the GX85. I really liked the output and usability. I liked it because it didn't seem too sharp. It seemed organic. I'd also like to try the 14-140.

There's definitely a few gotchas on the E1, like using microSD cards and low bitrate. It does have autofocus, but it's really not great. I tend to use it with a wide lens as a plant camera, again mainly for live theater productions where it can be hidden or discretely capturing the band or some other element we can dedicate the camera to capturing. I typically use it with either the olympus 9-18mm or the panasonic 14mm, often with a sony wide angle adapter on the front to get a wider image out of the 14mm. The size is awesome, but definitely does carry it's own set of issues, for example the camera is insane looking on a typical sized manfrotto 501 QR plate. Still a very worthwhile camera to have in the bag and one that can be had pretty cheap. I originally picked mine up for the $200 camera challenge we did on here a few years ago and have been using it on a few gigs a year ever since.

In the small/light/cheap micro4/3 lens category, the Pan 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 II kit lens is worth considering - twice the length of the 12-32mm, but has a focus ring and (on my copy at least) a smoother zoom ring. Both lenses on a GX85:

I recall that it was said to have shocking RS, although others chimed in at the time to say that that was only a show-stopper if you classed it or used it as an action cam, which despite its size, it wasn't.

I own the last three lenses on that list. The 20mm F1.7 is a nice lens optically, but for video use its AF is noisy and the minimum aperture is F16 (versus F22 for most micro4/3 lenses). No OIS. The Pana 12-32mm F3.5-5.6 is nice - weighs almost nothing and is very compact when closed and has OIS (with dual-IS support on the GX85 etc.). No manual focus ring, which means no MF on Olympus/OMDS bodies as they don't support MF adjustment via the camera body controls (AFAIK all Olympus lenses have a focus control). Panasonic does support body MF control for it. Tends to be my go-to lens if I'm taking a second camera on a trip, to keep the size down. Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 EZ - I think it's OK but nothing special - the power zoom isn't especially smooth, but it does have both zoom and focus rings on a slim pancake lens.

Speaking of lenses, the size of the camera body is only part of the equation. The smallest lenses I have include... Olympus 15mm F8 Body Cap Tiny lens, tack-sharp, has all the advantages of a fixed-focus manual prime. Only downsides are the focusing lever can easily get bumped, and F8 is sloooooow Panasonic 14mm F2.5 Fast, sharp, small. A favourite for a reason! Laowa 7.5mm F2.0 Thin but potentially getting too long for convenience / pocketability. Fast and sharp, wide with zero distortion, but it's expensive. SLR Magic 8mm F4.0 Only one stop slower than the Laowa and not really much smaller, but hugely cheaper. Ergonomics are crap though - it's designed for drones and the focus mechanism isn't damped, but instead has a locking screw that you have to loosen/tighten every time you want to adjust it. But, it's so deep DoF that you could easily use it as a fixed-focus lens. Other interesting small lenses I don't have include: 7artisans Photoelectric 18mm f/6.3 UFO 7artisans Photoelectric 18mm f/6.3 Mark II Olympus M.Zuiko Digital 17mm F2.8 Pancake Panasonic Lumix G 20mm F1.7 Lumix G Vario 12-32mm F3.5-5.6 Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 EZ A batch of lenses from AstrHori have shown up on B&H, a manufacturer I've never heard of, which also look small.. AstrHori 27mm f/2.8 II AstrHori 10mm f/8 II AstrHori 14mm f/4.5 What are everyone's go-to lenses for these tiny cameras? Or are you giving the middle finger to the lens size and just being a rockstar?

I've looked at the E1 before as well, it really is absolutely tiny - almost action camera sized! What lenses do you use it with? I must admin that by the time you add a lens then the size advantage is potentially diluted somewhat. Does it have AF? I have a vague sense that there was some 'gotcha' that steered me away from it. The 4K really is great though. I definitely agree with @John Matthews about the advantage of 4K on these little cameras, even if the 4K isn't that great in absolute terms the mode tends to have more bitrate and when you put it on a 1080p timeline the compression artefacts on edges etc are often smoothed over in the downsampling. I also looked at the GM1, it's also very small... I think the tilt-screen of the GX85 won me over - my GF3 has a fixed screen and doing high and low angle shots with my GF3 was almost impossible with manual focus lenses. I've since moved away from MF to AF lenses, but even framing is a challenge and no screen can compete with reflections of the sky if you're holding it above your head and tilting it down so you're looking at the screen at almost 90 degrees!

Bit depth and dynamic range are different. Apparently n-log can only hold 13 stops. But tbf not many cameras are exceeding that anyway.

Left my thanks-like above but had no time yet to address a comment I think fully justifies also because he is one of the most valuable contributors in this community and I think it's worthy of it too, so here is now : ) When I've watched this project of Carl Dreyer (here's some meeting with film students to only those who understand Danish though), some former film critic and older fellow from same alma mater/filmschool, programmer from a mainstream network/state TV and responsible for a TV program dedicated to short film on-air for decades (I proudly designed) told me he didn't like it because the Danish filmmaker had repeated shots on this short film paid by the local road safety authorities where seems Dreyer simply made the apology of speed instead for many of the viewers if not all... I stayed with my doubts and still keeping that typical feeling of a masterpiece anyway ; ) Came to my mind now 'cause the use of those cycling sunset shots by @kye towards the refuge staring there in the coast before the upcoming night as epilogue. Why this is film? You play with the one outside beyond the pictures, not only but no less, the time to come*... That's cinema! - EAG * from the material previously organised by the filmmaker there in the film, that's why kye is misleading us ; ) LOL to add some fabrication on it, art is real but also fake and true at same time, the truth of cinema : X this is film, after all ;- )

Pffffssst. Just A.I. uprez the GM1 to 4K. Not because you should, but because it will give you an excuse to keep using the GM1. Man, out of all the cameras I've bought and sold over the years, why'd I let that one go? Still have it as my avatar all these years later...

i want to bypass af100's internal avchd 24mbps weak codec. i already have inferno, ki mini, nano flash, i want to try uncompressed to see how much it can improve the grading.

Unimaginable tech in an item that is so small. I have no clue how people can be so smart to be able to design something like it.