Leaderboard

Our host isn't the biggest fan of that particular person and has requested previously that his content not be shared.

For mobile video as in literally video on mobile phones or just mobile video as in a compact setup ? If its the former then I've no real opinions as I don't use my iPhone for anything other than non-photo/video things aside from the odd snapshot. If its the latter then per my point about matching what, to me at least, is the average looking image in that particular video then for the same price as the 15 Pro Max we could probably be here all day listing options. I've seen other videos where it has been exploited better but I don't see anything in and of itself which supports it being anything other than a step forward for iPhone filming. Phone cameras have always left me cold (particularly in terms of the price of these high end iPhones) but I did have a weather eye out for this one as it might have been the one to change that. I realise I might be in a minority here but thus far it hasn't moved the needle that much for me. I'm curious to know how many people on here have one of these yet and if it has changed anything for them in terms of being a camera replacement other than it just being a better camera than their previous one. For example, has anyone who always used, say, an LX100 or an RX100 etc as a compact camera now completely dropped those and only use the 15 Pro Max ?

On the whole, I thought that was really lacklustre to be honest and I'd say that, quite appropriately, he phoned that one in. Ironically, that made it quite informative set against the slew of shock faced "OMG I can't believe I shot this cinematic masterpiece on a phone" videos on YouTube where a lot of production work has gone clearly in to them as this shows what you get out of one shooting in a more casual can't be arsed sort of manner. I can think of far cheaper cameras than the £1299 the base model costs in the UK with which to get similarly meh results with that approach. It hasn't stopped the vast majority of commenters on it saying not only is the emperor not naked but he is wearing the finest of hand woven garments though, so I'm guessing they're seeing something different to me. Filters seem to be this year's LUT packs don't they and this felt more about them than the camera.

Do you mean they're not that usable without having a cage for the Shogun Flame? Why is that? Surely it's ok if you just mount it to the rig you have? I must admit I have an attraction/repulsion reaction to external monitors. Attraction because of their potential brightness, size, and resolution, but repulsion about the extra size, weight, need for a rig, extra batteries (and additional chargers etc), etc. I keep having the following: I should use the P2K P2K screen doesn't articulate and isn't visible outdoors I could use an external monitor for it What a PITA - I may as well use the M2K (BMMCC) M2K has rubbish buttons and having a rig is too big / cumbersome If only there was a way to get that image without a rig I should use the P2K. (Go to step 1, loop...... forever!)

This was always the problem I had with using a phone on manual settings - you are forced to choose one of the following: Buy the latest phone and use it as a phone and camera, and use a rig for the camera use Crap option because you now don't have good access to your phone, plus you risk interruptions from calls / notifications or have to use aeroplane mode and miss potentially important things Buy the latest phone and use it as a phone and camera, with some sort of rig that easily removed for the camera use Almost any clip-on/off rig (even just an ND) is normally incompatible with proper cases that protect the phone, either requiring you use their protective case (which is invariably a POS), or you take the proper case on and off (which is hard to do and damages them quickly), or you have to use the phone without much drop/scratch protection Buy the latest phone as camera and use your old phone as phone If I just paid a bunch of money for a phone that is only a camera, why didn't I just buy a proper camera? Buy two of the latest phones, one for phone, one for camera Same as above. Buy an older phone as camera Same as above, with the possible exception of buying an android phone that can shoot RAW I also did a deep-dive on the setups that use ground glass and a real lens and the image had huge problems - if any camera looked like that then it would be laughed off the internet. One potential exception is that newer designs seem to use the MagSafe attachment to hold a filter / ND, which might actually be an acceptable solution for filters, but not likely strong enough for lenses.

Dog lover vs kitten cat. 🙂 His colors looked great when 709 was ruling acquisition. Log made him logged out of color appeal. Too bad he took a harmless joke so badly. Something must have hit him much more than just a goofy joke about his kittens. Senstive state of mind he must have been in. His videos are still a joy to chill with.

Still got my shogun flame. Used it twice as a monitor and once as a recorder for one of my fs700 cams. Hardly worth in usage for the money I paid. Without a cage these things are hardly usuable. Cages have been and still are around 120eu on the bay. I doubt the benefit for it other than usuage as a monitor. It was a haveto when filming in the bright sun for the ACing but other than that I think I won't miss anything if I let that thing go. If a project comes up renting will have to do. Reading this thread gives me the right impulse to sell that thing. So thanks for spreading the word. Hopefully someone will still be willing to buy that thing. Wish me good luck. cheers:)

Indeed. "retired" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that statement. He "retired" in much the same way as Boris Johnson did.

He didn’t retire. He was told to step down for his blatant disregard for others at a time when Australia was at the full height of Covid lockdowns. https://www.couriermail.com.au/coronavirus/millionaire-jeromy-young-and-his-company-atomos-under-fire-after-superyacht-border-breach/news-story/d93a461fe002ecc6863590416bd6ccb3?amp&nk=1ee37250f95936b7d3d792c55479cfbd-1704752061 This behaviour might have been celebrated in the US, but it outraged the general public in Australia. Now he’s done his time I guess? The toxic culture mentioned in the subsequent lawsuit was well established during his tenure. I’m assuming it will be business as usual for these crooks.

https://youtu.be/ZSahjw0yFLA?t=203 No idea how it works for you but to my book, this is far to be too little... :- )

In the race to 8K, 12K, and beyond, how much resolution do we really need to tell a story? I brought my trusty FZ47 on a little New Year's trip to Arizona, and I think that 640x480 might just be enough: Technical: I scaled up to 1920x1440 (no "smart" or AI rescaling). I did not add any sharpening or softening to the image, and I resisted the urge to clean up the digital artifacts and just embraced them instead. I did however do a little color work. I was actually shocked by how good this footage looks, probably because it's progressive and not interlaced. I think I'd put this footage up against the DVX100, XL1/2, or comparable camera. And as we've seen in the 8-bit grading tests that @kye shared with us, it's kind of shocking how much you can push the image around in post (especially if you are either okay with some macro-blocking, or willing to soften/hide it). I think that's part of what makes this camera so much fun. Is there a unique aesthetic afforded by this low resolution? I'm not sure. I've degraded 1080P footage to have a similar level of detail in the past. The compression artifacts are definitely smaller and easier to hide. But in full motion, I feel like they add a nice texture.

I think it still looks pretty good, those old Panasonic CCD sensors were really cool... I had one of their P&S cameras back in 2009... I think it was an FX150. Loved that camera. The mjpeg files had such a thickness to them. I grew up in the 80s and I agree about the footage giving a nostalgic feeling... I swear when I remember my childhood, I see it in 110 film. Back in the camcorder days, there used to be a trick where you'd copy a clip and stack it on top of the other to make it have a little extra heft, you should try it with one of your film emulations.

A better word for them would be parameters. I remember kd lang saying how she used to do performance art but because you can do anything with that it wasn't fun and creative, she then turned to country music and it having so many conventions she was able to mess with it in interesting ways. In improv Jazz music they don't just play whatever, they have a key, a time signature and a riff that they then play around with. It ends up being more creative than it would be. So limitations are good for creativity.

Limitations can help to balance it more with raising the creative side of our own very often ; ) - EAG