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10-bit is always better than 8-bit, and 4:2:2 is always better than 4:2:0, but the question is if that difference is actually visible / meaningful. If you're doing very little grading in post then 8-bit vs 10-bit and 4:2:0 vs 4:2:2 probably doesn't have any visible or meaningful difference. But I suggest doing a test. Just find a bunch of scenes around the house (or not out of the way) and shoot the same composition in each mode and then just load them up side-by-side and look at them. If the 8-bit 4:2:0 shot doesn't make your stomach turn then just go with it. In the end, if you can lessen the impact or eliminate overheating, that you can lessen or eliminate the impact of running out of SD card space, then that means you can relax more while recording, you could shoot more, you can have extra time and energy and headspace that was previously devoted to worrying about or managing these things. If you can have more headspace and be more relaxed while shooting then the way you use the camera, and the way that you behave while recording will be better. If you behave better then what is in front of the camera might also be better. So, realistically, the option is potentially of having a very slightly worse recording of potentially much better material.

I would say I vacillate between #2 and #3. Maybe an occasional brief flash of #1 when I'm lucky. Oh no, not at all. We shot this over the summers of 2015, 2016, and 2017- that's where the title comes from. Probably 40-50 shooting days of anywhere from 2-6 hours each day. The curved rail at 2:48, for example, we were there for about three hours, in 90+F July heat. I shot 176 tries, with the landed clip you see in the video being around hour 2 and try 100. But Chy and I are both a bit of compulsive perfectionists and we wanted a following fisheye angle too, so we kept going and only stopped because some guy selling fireworks in the parking lot next to us wandered over and lit an industrial smoke bomb in the middle of the spot because he thought it would give a cool music video vibe 😄 Was kind of a blessing actually as you couldn't even see your hands after that and it forced us to stop.

That was a Z Cam E2-M4. I saw similar results with the XT3 back when I used that primarily. Fwiw, I also saw similar color issues comparing Canon 5D3 8 bit vs magic lantern Raw. The color blocks are most obvious in relatively uniform gradients, such as skies. This tree shot isn't the best viewing since it's so busy with high frequency changes, but you can still see it pretty easily when you zoom to 100% or view on a 4K monitor, especially in motion. Most obvious is the greenish splotch in the bottom area that I highlighted, and the upper highlighted area has red and green splotches. If it's not a big enough deal for what you do, then great! To me, it's a big enough deal, since I have the option of 10 bit. There's no downside: file size is the same, and I've never encountered overheating on any camera ever (shooting narrative I take relatively short clips with time in between). That's not to say the difference is uber important... I mean I am splitting hairs about something that has very little bearing on the final product. I'm posting here to show what the difference is not to tell you that it matters for you. All else being equal, I'll always use 10 bit on the cameras I've tested.

It's in that camp with the GH5 as being on the large side.. Realistically, I like the GX85 but just want some upgrades in DR and low-light, and in the absence of that existing I've worked out that I could have two setups, one for running around and one for slower situations where I don't have exactly the same requirements. So the GH5S is better than the GX85, but is larger and has worse DR than the P2K, so it's sort of wins and losses in comparison. Considering I already own a GH5 and a P2K, it's a tough sell to buy a whole new camera for essentially no net benefit. I know very little about Olympus lineup and was secretly hoping that someone would go "there's always the Olympus XYZ - it's perfect!".... what models might suit?

It would seem a "small" camera doesn't exist without forgoing one of the items listed above. I agree with Matt. It would be the GH5S because IBIS isn't one of the things you listed.

I had a guest do that at a wedding a couple of years back. Could not see a thing and totally trashed the shoot! Lasers, smoke and balloons 🤪

What about the GH5s for dual iso low light?

Well, you fooled me into thinking you didn't struggle. In my travels I've found there are only a few types of editors: People that love it and push themselves and put in the hours to create great work People that don't love it, but have somehow found a way (or get pushed by someone else) to grind through the process to get great edits People that don't put in the work and create edits that are good enough / functional / uninspired / plain / blah People that create shit edits People that don't edit and either do 25 minute rambling time wasters, livestreams, or simply don't finish projects at all Cool to hear that you're editing women skaters like men, and especially with someone as skilled as Chynna. I skated for many years in my youth, both skateboarding and later roller-blading, and I have just enough skill to know how crazy the tricks in that video are. Especially considering they were all shot in one day, I assume from the title? If you're someone who likes analysing the work of others and can take tricks from one genre to another, this episode of Parts Unknown is the best editing I've ever seen: It has every effect I've ever seen in those trendy 'transition-fest' travel videos from the hey-day of Vimeo, but done way better, has transitions I've never seen elsewhere, has editing styles from across the board, and makes all other non-narrative editing look plain and pedestrian, and makes the best of YT creators look like amateur hour at the local craft fair. Anthony Bourdain was famous for giving editing notes worse than anything the YT comments section contains, and doing it for version after version after version, and I think this might have been the high-water-mark for this type of highly-stylised editing.

Wow thanks@PannySVHS! Never thought my stuff would be brought up here. The S5IIX, to be honest I haven't been shooting much this year so not a ton of time with it yet, but a bit of a mixed bag so far. Love the new AF, the intraframe codecs are nice to have as my stuff has so much motion in it. Other than that it's mostly the same as my S1, which was/is great (other than the AF). On the negative side, my X has had a problem with looseness and glitching in the mic jack since I got it. Wasn't bad at first as I customized my cage to put a little bit of pressure on the plug, which worked for a while, but now it's gotten worse and I have it boxed up to go to Panasonic for repair. I'm not a fan of the new processing for the linear profiles, I shoot entirely in V-Log so it actually doesn't affect me, but... gross, looks like cellphone footage. I'm eagerly awaiting the S1Hii or S1X or whatever comes next, but they'd better fix that processing. The piece you posted was almost entirely Cine-D, a couple of V-Log L shots from when there was that "hack" to install it on the GH4 for free- and I'm glad I didn't just pony up for the official upgrade, because I couldn't get around banding in the sky (you can really see this in the shot at 0:17, and it's not just YouTube's compression), would have been a waste of money. For post I just used the Leeming Cine-D LUT, and then his "Rich Velvet" Quickie (look) LUT, pulled back a bit. I liked the density and saturation this gave me, reminded me of some HVX200/HPX170 stuff that I'd seen years ago. Past that just some selective Neat-ing and a bit of unsharp mask. I appreciate you noting the detailed/not oversharp look, that's what I've always gone for. Lenses, for fisheyes the GH4 had a cheap "manybrand" (Samyang/Bower/Rokinon etc) 8mm f3.5, on a 0.64x Metabones BMCC booster that the shutter would crash into if triggered so I had to remember to WB with a different lens. Then on the G85 I had the native-mount manybrand 7.5mm f3.5, much easier to work with, smaller/lighter/cheaper/sharper, but not as wide of a FOV. The booster/8mm shots are the ones with the slight vignetting in the corners. For regular lenses it was about half adapted Minolta MD/MC stuff, no booster as I couldn't find an affordable one that didn't flare/blue dot like crazy, and half Nikkors on a Metabones 0.71x booster. No Panasonic lenses as I couldn't get good results with manual focus or AF. Thanks @kye, the truth is that I really struggle with editing and rely heavily on beat/music/rhythm for structure and flow. So that means a lot. The B-roll shots are actually a bit sparser in this piece than usual, this is a reaction on my part to so many other video profiles of female rollerbladers often being padded out with too much slo-mo, B-roll, and second/third angles of tricks, usually to cover for a lack of clips of actual tricks. Chynna is arguably the best in the world at this style of skating so I wanted this to be a bit more "all killer no filler"- 35 tricks in 4 minutes- typically the better men in the sport will have about 25-35 tricks in this length, while the aforementioned female pieces have 15-20, plus plenty of slomo of them tying their hair up and putting their skates/helmets on 😄

That's a cool edit too @Al Dolega. Nice pacing, good rhythms, nice use of the non-trick shots to break things up, etc. These more 'percussive' styles of editing remind me of programming break-beats in music production. You need the right amount of things happening on the rhythm to keep it going, but enough things that are off to keep it interesting and fresh, and enough variety in the whole thing to separate it from everyone else's work.

Browsing vintage cameras and some not so vintage cameras like the S1H I searched the comments section to reassure myself of my S1H purchase. 🙂 I recognised a member of our forum and browsed his content finding a variety of awesome lumix material and beautifully filmed skating action. I came around this 8bit masterpiece, filmed with a GH4 and a G85. Awesome stuff! @Al Dolega So how do you like your S5II so far?:) Congrats on your awesome content, and the image you got out of the GH4 and G85! What profile did you use, lenes?:) Silly me asking, despite owning great other cameras with modern codecs. But these little cameras are so much fun to play around with and talk about. Still loving my GX85. I like the resolution but lack of oversharpness in this video, also the natural and beautiful color palette. Anyway, some 8bit Mft greatness: