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4k/UHD video = 8MP stills which I think is perfectly fine even on a large screen at normal viewing distance. One of my favourite photos (which other people have also liked) is only a 2MP JPEG, taken in 2015 with a Pana G6 while simultaneously recording FHD video. It's the light, shade and the sweep of the glinting rails that makes it work, not the resolution:

Better image, DR, and usability for non sport situations

Yes. When starting I was afraid that 4k resolution would be too low and the workflow would be too cumbersome. Turns out the resolution is just fine for my purposes (watching content on smaller screens), has quite some headroom for zoom in. And although the framegrabbing workflow is a bit cumbersome, extracting the perfect frame in combination with 60p in 4k is awesome!

The R5 seems like it would be a really weird choice for the ML people since it already shoots 8k raw - and I haven't noticed the DR in raw on my R5 seeming all that different from the DR on still images. Whatever differences there are, IMO they wouldn't be enough for me to use ML raw and have to convert each clip before importing into Resolve vs just being able to directly open the Canon raw files directly. Better for ML to target bodies like the original R6 which didn't include any sort of raw video - or even better, flesh out support for the M series which is tiny, cheap on the used market due to being a dead system, and has some models that are at least 4k capable. At least, if I were on the project, I'd be more excited to tell people "Now you can shoot 2.5k raw (or 3.2k or whatever SD card slot can support) on a $400 M50" than "Now you can shoot otherer more differenter raw on your $2,300 camera that already has raw."

Also, to add onto the very good points of @eatstoomuchjam, you likely have a display problem too. Most modern computer devices (and potentially lots of smart TVs too??) run a 60Hz display. This will display 30p and 60p image streams perfectly with equal spacing between each new frame, but put a 24p video on there and you get jitter because the display isn't updating at a whole multiple of 24Hz. Displays at 120p or 240p will not have this problem, or if you drive the display with a 24Hz input and have the display in the 24Hz mode. This is the primary reason that I own a BM Ultrastudio Monitor 3G - it drives your reference monitor with the exact frame rate and resolution of the timeline, without any jitter. I've compared 24p vs 30p vs 60p videos on a 60p display as well as through the Ultrastudio and there's a big difference - I prefer the 24p in both scenarios because it doesn't look so artificially smooth as 30p and 60p, but depending on what you value in an image and how you perceive motion, the jitter might tip the balance for you. Unless you've got a dedicated output driving the monitor in the timeline frame rate, you really can't say anything at all about each frame rate because you're not seeing them properly.

yep, that was me. long time GM1 and GX85 user. I think you might have meant this video: good times.

tbh, after having played a bit with Apple Log I concluded for myself that 4k framegrabs are my new way of taking photos that are (for my hobbyish usage) good enough that my a7c stays at home all the time. It is not the most joyable shooting experience for sure and you really have to get close to get some DoF blur, but the quality and turnaround time is just.. perfect for me.

Great, you guys! The newly sparkled enthusiams could be channeled into an Eoshd filming challenge. Last one was five years ago:) @kyewould be in and put his GX85 up against the Blackmagic Full Frame Raw Cine Beast. My camera of choice for that would be the classic Cinealta F3 in 8bit Slog internal mode to contribute some additional spiceyness. What do you think? Some Magic Lantern goodness in the mix or some Z9 mayhem or some Canon Ti 8bit mastery... Let's get rollin!😊

I took out my VX980 and film this in the morning. After, I threw it into Final Cut and added Film Convert to it. It was so easy. I let the camera figure the exposure on all the shots, but I had a ND32 on it at all times. All the shots were on a tripod. I probably should have uploaded in 4k, but oh well. It still looks good.

I love the look of the video and it has a few hundred views already. So there is hope.:) @kye I still have the 420 8bit Slog files which came with the SDX cards of my F3 and they grade like a charme. I think the F3 only looks good in Slog though, judging footage on the web. Unfortunately I have not been in the filming mood for months now. But a "challenge" with a few Eoshd friends could change that. Kye and Panny are in!:)

I bought one. I couldn’t resist at this price, which I’m sure was Blackmagics hope for many people. I’ve been completely out of the BM ecosystem for a few years but the Pyxis got me starting to reconsider. Now this has pushed me into the deep end 😂