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Of course content is the key When you watch on Onlyfans would u care if they shoot on iPhone or Pro grade camera? I think 99.9% users of OF don't care. 😉 Anyway I moved from Sony FX3 to Canon R7 this year as my personal main cam. Most client couldn't careless, and image quality wise most won't tell the difference except that low light which I hardly shoot.

I'm also a fan of acquiring in 6K and delivering in a lower resolution. Plenty of room to crop in.

I’m happy with 6k. 6k for me is the sweet spot for cropping in post or stability cropping in camera and then outputting as either 4k or 1080. S5ii 6k is nicer to my eye than the 4k despite being 420 and not 422 and can be ‘degraded’ to be more ‘cinemantic’. Great for also cropping 9x16 for social media from 3:2 Open Gate.

RAW is normally a 1:1 pixel read out, so in case of R5 / R5c / R5 II is a 17:9 1:1 pixel read out making it 8k DCI no crop. SRAW in R5 II is 4k DCI but still no crop so it does some line skipping or similar. RAW and SRAW are 12 bits, with no processing so you can change completely the WB, Log profile, Gamut, Sharpness, Noise reduction etc. H265 is either 8 or 10 bits and it either Log or fully processed. So in theory you can post process RAW and SRAW much more than 10bit Log. Now R5 II has h265 4k 24-30 oversampled from 8k where 4k SRAW it does not seem oversampled.... so with h265 you in theory get more details with SRAW more room for post processing without the size cost of 8K RAW.

Thanks so much for the kindness about suggestions and the fun about discovering my old post, see you in 2 years (like a good wine)! Ahahah Jokes aside I did few tests during past days with my 7D installing film emulation picture styles and developing RAW shot at about 2500/3200 ISO. I discovered I can tolerate the noise thx to the automatic noise reduction (the chromatic) applied by Lightroom. The problem is that I need to keep the shutter speed pretty low with pretty fast aperture lenses to take those shots, meaning it require a very still subject and me to be very focused. Basically I took sone time to test if I really has no change other than upgrade an in all honesty I think I will understand it after the holidays I'll do in September with my family. I'll bring my 7D and really doing many tests (I can develop the raw files on my iPad). I'm very grateful for your suggestions.

And for the other 0.1%, may I offer you a very warm welcome to the forum.

When I feel sad, to cheer myself up I always go and read the comments on Andrea's rumors sites. Some people have been eating peyote. Random comment:

100% (but don't tell MrsSMW I said that).

I didn’t realise you had an OF channel. Where can I find it?

I’m not too bothered about that as everything I produce (wedding videos mainly) are for the rest of their lives and one argument might be to shoot in 8k just so that one day…but nah, not unless they wished to pay a massive premium…which gives me an idea… Option for client to have a ‘free’ upgrade from 4k to 6k (as I am already shooting in 6k, not that they know it) but offer a paid option to shoot and deliver in 8k to ‘future proof’ their memories. It would have to be a fairly hefty premium because for me that would mean a whole new 8k system of 3 bodies plus lenses, plus massively increased storage etc… Could also be an option for stills if they wished to print a 3x life size version of themselves on the side of their house and a legit excuse for me to buy a Hassie X2D 🤔

To elaborate on my previous post because you keep saying this nonsense: Professional cinema cameras including those from Red and Arri do not have redundant media. They are not gimmicky. They are professional tools. R5 overheating? It's a good thing to keep in mind if your use case is recording for hours at a time. I have used my R5 in 8K raw mode on multiple short films. They never showed any sign of overheating. This style of shooting has the camera rolling less than 1/3 of the time. It cools enough between takes and while resetting for the next scene/angle. Battery? Yes. You need to get LP-E6N and you can't use your old E6 batteries in the most demanding modes. No idea why you'd call this gimmicky. Was it a gimmick when Sony moved to Z100 batteries for their mirrorless cameras and abandoned the old ones which had less capacity? Canon seems to be trying to be consumer-friendly and say that if you just want to take photos or shoot in a lower resolution, you can just keep using your older batteries with less output and less capacity. Seems less like a gimmick and more like a kind of nice feature. Any other hot takes about the R5?

It's true - any proper cinema camera would have redundant storage. That's why neither Red nor Arri make proper cinema cameras. 🤣

Yeah that is your opinion, I also shoot occasional 8k for virtual production or those showing on big LED And 8K is needed for VR applications, those 6k 360 cam is not really sharp for Vision Pro.. Raw on the other hand I rarely use it so it must be gimmick 😉

Sure, it should arrive tomorrow, sold my R5 last week.

Gimmick in this context means it's mainly for publicity and marketing; yes, it's usable in the R5 and R5II, but I would estimate it's a capability used by less than 0.5% of the buyers of the product and it comes with many limitations (battery type, storage limits, overheating, lack of redundancy, etc.) that a cinema camera with the same capability would not have. So, from an overheating standpoint, what the majority of the population wants to see is how it performs in more mainstream modes like 4K Fine, 4K SRAW, 4K HEVC, etc. IMO 8K in any current mirrorless hybrid isn't much more than a marketing gimmick at this point, a somewhat useable one yes..but a gimmick nonetheless.

I find the statement to be just weird. I've shot several things with it as well. Even if I prefer 4K from the C70 to 8K from the R5, it's pretty far from a "gimmick."

Pretty much. It's cool that the tech is now at a point where we can do 4K without straining our cameras and computers but for presentation, HD is plenty.

I understand the importance of more res for post. when I stabilize my varicam 27's footage in resolve, I see significant loss in res, if it is a wide shot. if it is a closeup, it is ok. I have no objection of digital zoom, etc, but they don't totally justify the essentiality of high res 4k and above. the best digital dolly is magic lantern. in crop mode, you can digital pan or tilt.

Yeah, 1080p cropped for vertical is like 600*1080.. even less than 720p resolution. With 4k you can do fake dolly or slider in post or punch in for close up, much more to play with and give you abit of headroom for errors. Does people even shoot only 2MP photo nowadays?

you mean after cropping for vertical viewing? from my experience, high quality 1080p cams can have comparable results to 4k cams, even on a 27 inch 4k monitor with a viewing distance of one foot. these high quality 1080p cams actually have a 4k sensor, like c300 og, c100 og and mk2, af100, etc. fs7 does not override them easily, except that 4k sign can please some clients. oversampled 4k from 6k or 8k cams may be better on a 4k monitor, but not easily to see the difference on a 4k tv with a viewing distance of 5 meters. in addition, for portrait, 1080p is enough, unless the actress is a teenage girl with perfect skin. otherwise, the actress needs very thick makeup to cover her imperfections. in wedding, if you shoot the bride with a 12k bm Ursa, showing her wrinkles and speckles, her sisters' weddings will belong to other dps for sure.

We shoot 4k for flexibility in post, and if u want to make portrait video for social from the same footage then the 1080p will be too low res for that.

@SRV1981 is that you? : )

I’m going to bookmark this thread and make a note in my 2026 diary. There possibly may even be an unboxing video re. the 7d replacement?

OP waited another two years between this post and the previous post without ever upgrading their 7D, what's the big deal if they wait another two more years? And then yet another couple more years? Might be enough time to finally see an OG GFX 50S priced within OP's budget. They should definitely do that.

I think a used EOS RP will suit ur need, since it is FF it still beat any apsc out there for low light capture, and should be in ur budget too.

Forgiven. Mention any of the following and I will also respond: OG X100 Pro1, Pro2 XH1 S1H …and others 😂

$600 Euros + upgrade from 7D -> Anything... even entry level stuff... just saying... unless you were using ML religiously, trust me... anything. Shit, the only thing you will be giving up is the weather proofing and the tank like build of the 7D. If you want to keep it in the Canon family - even a R100 would beat the 7D in the image department (SOOC; no ML). If you want to venture out of Canon - Fuji... these are beautiful little cameras... even going Entry level here - go X-T30 II.... can't go wrong. If you want to go full frame - Sony a7 iii - on the Used market (may need to stretch the budget a little here). If you want to go full frame on Canon - I'm sure you can find an R8 on the used market too (may need to stretch the budget a little here too). Good luck.