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I had my GM5 out today with the 14mm F2.5. Perfect match. I would love a GM cam with the robustness of the GX85. With the GM5 I am even worried about the writing on the buttons. It almost seemingly gets rubbed off by looking at it. Today my fingers were a bit sticky from the cake I grabbed on my way when roaming the streets. I felt relieved after washing my hands at a public restroom, no more reason to believe the delicate lettering could stick to my sugar glue fingers. So a GM85 please. I wouldn't need nor expect ibis on that one. The design and size are just so cool. Maybe a frontdial would be possible. Just get rid of the micro hdmi to make room. It's akward that this tiny cam has evf, mechanical shutter and hotshoe but the S9 does not. @John Matthews XM5 might be prone to overheating, maybe even more than a XS20. We will see. I was hoping the XS20 could be an alternative for my GX85 but than I read about the aweful overheating issues some user had. Size is intriguing for what it does. But it is too pricey anyway. Fortunately, as I have too many cameras collecting dust.:)

The relaunched S5 with full Hdmi would have been all the camera I ever needed for personal and semipro use. Another missed opportunity. There is no L mount option for the TTArtisan 27mm f/2.8 Lens, which @IronFilm has mentioned in the Fuji XM5 thread. Lumix S9 users might be using it for S35 pocket cinema fun. But then there are not so many S9 owners. If I had bought one, I would neither be exited about the micro hdmi which it shares with the Fuji XM5 nor about the fact that it does not offer external Braw while the Fuji does on the other hand. Though greatest deal breakers still remain the missing evf, mechanical shutter and hotshoe. Awesome to see the awesome Phillip Reeve been linked to btw:)

Hey guys, wanted to share with my short Video. It was recorded with GFX 100ii with lovely fujinon 110mm f2 at dunes of Maspalomas. I uploaded stilgars voice to voice cloner and let him narrate my favorite quotes from Dune series. Edited with Dehancer plugin. Film emulation was Ambrotype (by Anatolee Green). Music is ofcourse hans zimmer from the original first Dune. GFX100ii settings: 5.8k mode 24fps 720mbps 422 FLOG2. (5.8k mode has the wide aspect ratio but uses the full width of the sensor) Unfortunately no open gate 4:3 that would have been awesome. What do you think? did I match the color from Dune? voice cloning gives me creeps.

Watching this again. Great cinematography, great acting, completely fucing nuts. (good antidote to the current unfortunateness with which Joaquin is currently associated).

You'd think it would be an easy change, but alas, they had way too many unsold bodies to allow that to happen. I will say the price is better on the older S5 model which I've seen go for 949 euros new. Given the choice between the an S5 and the X-M5 for $800, I might take the S5 on pure technology, but the X-M5 for size.

I've said it before but the camera that presents the biggest challenge to Panasonic getting traction with their latter releases isn't made by someone else, its made by Panasonic themselves. The S5ii is the spanner in the works for the G9ii, GH7 and S9. Cheaper than the first two (and lets not ignore the not insubstantial difference of it being FF over MFT) and easily justifying the extra £300 over the last one for the additional features. How likely do you think it is that someone walks into a camera store to buy a Panasonic camera and doesn't walk out with the S5ii when presented with all four? Actually, or even all five if you are in Europe when you throw in whatever the hell the S5d is The ARRI LogC3 got a lot of buzz for the GH7 and maybe it could be the thing that does the same for the S9 but that is at the expense of pissing off every owner of the other S cameras. Discontinuing the S5ii seems the only way out of this for them !

While I agree and understand where you’re coming from, capitalism works a little differently than that. You have to remember, companies are dictated by the market and really need to be much more on top of things. They have to be two steps ahead if they want to survive to be around in 2 years time. There are so many factors that need to be managed to survive, public perception and marketing are big ones and Panasonic is blowing it right now. They don’t have a clear vision and it shows. There’s a lot of psychological factors involved and if people don’t trust where they’re going they will jump ship and look for what they need from others. For most of us, buying a camera isn’t just the body, it’s investing into the whole system. If you’re a professional that means maybe 2 or 3 cameras and then all the accessories, lenses… personally, I need to know that I’m making a good decision that will work for me and my team for 2 - 5 years and when that gear is starting to age it’s ready time for an upgrade. The image and experience with lumix is great but things are getting a little strange with the lack of news and latest releases. There’s been a pretty consistent and timely release of products over the years and for the first time in a long time, that schedule has been inconsistent and the focus has shifted. That promotes concern for those of us who are dialed in and ready for the next major flagship upgrade or need to adapt. And at the end of the day, it’s pretty simple, we like gear and tech and new shiny things. The camera world is very innovative and it’s growing and changing really fast. 32 bit float, lidar, IBIS, animal detect AF… it’s all moving quickly and 5 years is a Looooooong time.

It makes perfect sense (in my opinion) because: A. I think they overpriced it to start with. Should have been 1250 max. That would have increased the buzz but the price was and is a major criticism by most. B. They fluffed it’s launch within The Community at least. It was controversial to say the least on various levels, but specifically that utterly shit launch lens. C. Outside The Community, people shop on brand and price. Fuji vs Panasonic Lumix, not much in that but the Fuji is something like 40% cheaper. D. Panasonic’s market share is lower than Fujis with Fujis image increasing (TikTok X100 just one example) whereas LUMIX has flatlined at best. Without a halo product in an S2R or S2H very soon, they risk cardiac arrest as even within The Community, folks WILL increasingly jump ship. It’s a dog eat dog world and folks generally do not back losers and LUMIX is in very real danger of being seen as a basket case. And I am a LUMIX fan. They are my brand of choice for video. I tried the S9. It was good but not great. I returned it for another (used at the SAME price) S5ii which is a far better camera at around the same price point. Would I ever consider buying and using another S9? Yes absolutely and have kept my Smallrig cage for it just in case that opportunity comes up, but only as a sidekick to an S2R because it does not tick enough boxes for me to be my A cam for pro work (single card slot and no fan being the principle deal-breakers there for me). The X-M5 is IMO a slightly less capable camera than the S9, mainly due to the lack of IBIS but if I was Average Joe browsing my local camera shop, the sales person would probably steer me towards the sub 1k camera and price-wise, I would convince myself that 899 is better than 1499 or whatever the S9 is currently priced at. But this is all just my personal opinion and maybe the S9 is flying off the shelves, loved by the masses and The Community, but the latter are just to busy to talk about it…

Was trying to edit my other post to add more of my thought, but I guess I was too late… As a camera tech aficionado, I’ve noticed gear buying has become more about status than skill, even among so-called “professionals.” The pros I’ve learned from? They stuck with their equipment for years and still delivered incredible work, focusing on mastering their tools instead of chasing every new release. That said, I’ve evolved too. I used to scoff at autofocus, but now, as a one-man band, I need gear that lets me concentrate on composition and sound without worrying about missed focus. That’s why any new camera I get has to have dependable autofocus. I’m leaning toward the GH7 for its 32-bit audio. Its perfect for solo shooters. And while the X-M5 has stunning image quality, I’d only consider it if the autofocus could keep up. For now, the tools I have are more than enough.

Nice! It's always nice to see what people are making. In terms of matching color, I feel that the recent Dune movies were mostly less saturated. But I love the hyper-stylization you have here, too.

If I'm honest, this Fuji announcement has pissed me off a bit with Panasonic. Frankly, the price and value tread deeply into the core of M43. Having Panasonic basically refuse to make anything and allowing Fuji to own the market says volumes about the current state of Panasonic. Let’s be clear: they’ve come out with ONE value proposition in the past year, and it was for pros (S5II/X). We’ve been begging for a newer M43 camera like the GM5 or GX9, and Panasonic continues to ignore us, despite having an ecosystem for those cameras. To add insult to injury, they come out with an overpriced S9, effectively moving the amateur price point to $1500. Oh, and by the way, we have a new BS 'lens' for you—a manual focus 26mm fixed f/8! What the hell? Now we have Fuji putting the amateur price point back to where it should be—$800. It’s time to lower the price of the S9, announce a new GX9-type camera, or say goodbye to that market.

S9 needs to be priced at 999 or LUMIX might need to call 999. (UK emergency number for non-Brits)

The record limit in the first place was really dumb