Andrew Reid

I think people will eventually get bored of shooting with the same narrow set of EF lenses. But the big advantage they have is the cross-camera compatibility. A huge plus over mirrorless lenses.

I will have to push on with my YouTube channel double-quick pace. Really enjoyed doing the first video. However, I fear the written word is dead and here's why. Look how much space YouTube takes up on a typical Google search and how far it pushes the first result down the page for EOSHD. The first result for "Iscorama GH5" is this forum. But it's barely noticeable with all the YouTube videos. YouTube is a Google service and this is an abuse of a monopoly plain and simple and they should be taken to court.

Don't forget GFX 100 is completely different class of camera. The sensor is a completely different size. Much larger. The look is different. Makes full frame look like a toy. As for rolling shutter, I have used both in real world. I am not lying when I say GFX 100 rolling shutter isn't as noticeable as the 1D X III. And I have been shooting F1 cars at 200mph with it. I have the footage to prove it, some of it (at 105mm no less with a sweeping pan) is in the YouTube video. Yes the 1D X III has 4K 60p with AF in crop mode but so does X-T4 and it's 1/4th of the price. Yes it has 5.5K RAW... but as already explained in the review it is practically unusable (file sizes). So for great video AF and 60p, choose the X-T4.

I am wondering what the practical benefits are to the image with X-Trans too. Image detail closer to Foveon? Or is it better just to put more megapixels in a conventional Bayer CFA? And when it comes to video I expect X-Trans offers zero benefit, which might be why it won't be in the X-H2. I do like the filmic noise grain of X-Trans RAW files though, but you have to be REALLY pixel peeping to notice.

Yeah it's not worth $6.5K unless you are a pro photographer using it day in day out for stills. I have no doubt it's the best stills DSLR ever made. No doubt about that. But video? Hmm. So many others that offer more in total. X-T4 is a total bargain indeed. If the GH5 was a bargain then this camera is even more. Add some Meike cine lenses or Sigma glass to the mix and you are practically as close to Arri / RED filmic quality as you're going to get for the money. Blackmagic Pocket 4K is quite noisy and feature-limited by comparison. And let's not even begin to compare build quality. Panasonic S1 with V-LOG update is the cheapest full frame 10bit 4K camera. The image that offers for £1500 is EXCEPTIONAL and there is nothing the 1DX Mark III in 4K 24p 10bit Canon LOG does that is significantly different, except the rolling shutter is a lot worse. So why pay so much extra? Under $2k or over $6K + astronomical CFexpress costs?

So the X-T4 has DIS as well. DIS has been around since the NX1 in quite an effective form, but it actually tends to impact on the image more than IBIS in terms of the artificial look and warping. The only thing that needs updating with IBIS on the X-T4 is the addition of some kind of artificial intelligence that recognises human camera work and tells the system not to fight against it. As it stands, the IBIS will occasionally prevent smooth intentional pans and tilts. So in that case, you can turn it off and use a tripod or an OIS lens. A lot of people's results are impacted from having IS Mode Boost enabled as well, and expecting a virtual gimbal. Actually, the boost mode is meant for completely locked down shots, not movement. The autofocus is very reliable indeed in my experience so far. A big step forward from the X-T3. I noticed plenty of occasions testing it vs the 1D X Mark III where it actually outperformed it. The 1D X Mark III would actually miss. The real choice when the R5 comes out will be the R5 or A7S III? I think Sony is waiting to top it in a big way. By then there may also be a GH6 and X-H2. So let's not put all our camera potatoes in one Canon shaped basket.

A fellow Brit?!

I think the X-H1 had conventional Bayer CFA?

I'm talking about the real world images.

1D X III 5.5K and 4K 24p - 32ms What about the 60p modes? Yes Leica SL2 full frame 10bit Panasonic S1 V-LOG 10bit 4K upgrade X-T4 with Speed Booster full frame 10bit X-T3 ditto X-Pro 3 ditto Blackmagic 6K with Magic Booster Blackmagic 4K with Metabones And quite a lot of hybrid 10bit cameras out there going all the way back to GH5 and GH5S. All much less rolling shutter than 32ms. No not true. SL2 and S1 for a start. I wouldn't consider full frame 10bit on these to have bad rolling shutter. Not compared to the 1DX III in 24p 10bit full frame, same settings. And they both have higher resolution sensors, which you'd think would make the RS worse.

Pro Color is not a scientific tool for matching cameras in post. It takes all the subjectively cinematic and good things about Canon's colour science and applies them to a different camera, in this case Sony A7 series. Pro Color works on FS5 but it is more designed with the mirrorless cameras, more comprehensively tested on them. I would try it and if it works then problem solved. If not then your only option is to shoot LOG on both Sony and Canon bodies and match in post to the Canon faithful profile. Not easy though.

The Sigma Fp videos above are not really examples of it, don't really show it. You can only see if it you try and make a flat profile, dial standard down -5 and raise the bottom of the custom curve up to reveal more shadow detail. Then shoot a scene inside with a lot of dark objects like camera bodies in it and you can see it. When you push the shadows down only slightly, adding more contrast, it disappears. Probably why it is more noticeable in N-LOG than with a flat profile on Z6.

Nikon still has the problem on firmware 3.0? Blimey. Not a good sign indeed.

Slashcam I would trust. Others not so much. DPReview don't even say how they arrived at the 28ms for GFX 100 or whether it was a scientifically measured test or just real-world impressions. So it is not easy to compare rolling shutter readings from different source as they all use different methods. In real-world tests people even all use different focal lengths and panning speeds. The S1H in full frame 4K/24p is definitely much less than 1D X III in same mode. The frustrating thing about the 1DX3 for me for the £6k, is that it clearly is capable of 16ms rolling shutter in 60p but cripples 24p with doubly worse rolling shutter. Why doesn't it use 16ms all the time?

I would just like a £6000 camera that actually works as advertised! Have you got a link to where you are getting those rolling shutter timings from?

Just noticed how Canon announced the camera... https://sg.canon/en/consumer/the-eos-1d-x-mark-iii-uncompromised-photo-video-performance/news Canon Announces the EOS-1D X Mark III, Built for Uncompromised Photo and Video Performance **** Why does Canon think uncompromised video performance means 32ms rolling shutter and no AF in full frame 60p? I think they are taking us for granted.

I don't find the moire to be worse than S1R, Z7 or A7R III. Particularly as it shares a very similar sensor to the S1R and Z7, maybe even identical and Panasonic DNA very much in the specs too. Maybe the different filter stack gives you a sharper image from the lens? That could have contributed. But in no way is moire a big problem on this camera... You have the 5K mode and 4K/60p S35 which are full pixel readouts for a start.

I am having problems with the jog wheel on my 1D X Mark III popping every full 360 degree rotation, so there is a mechanical problem there and my body will be returned for a refund and so this is only a short review. This review also marks a milestone for EOSHD! After 10 years of blog posts, I am going to be doing YouTube now as well! Looking forward to doing MANY a video and growing the channel in a big way. If you'd like to be interviewed, or featured on the channel, do let me know. So the 1D X Mark III then... https://www.eoshd.com/review/canon-1d-x-mark-iii-review-filmmaking-video-and-cinema-camera-get-the-fuji-x-t4-instead/

I put my thoughts into a YouTube review. This is my first one, but one of MANY! Please don't expect too much The video also compares it to: Fuji X-T4 Panasonic S1H and S1 Fuji GFX 100 I won't spoil the conclusion for you. There is some Formula One bonus footage at the end from the GFX 100, and a show-stopping problem with my 1D X III.

SIX HOURS

I am doing a YouTube video for the 1D X III review. Mattias Burling style.

That's good to know then, that it recognises the Sigma 18-35 and makes use of the full 120 focus positions?

Here is the take on the stills side...

I must say the design is damn sexy. A bit different to the usual C200 type isn't it?!

I am having problems with the jog wheel on my 1DX3 popping every full rotation, so there is a mechanical problem there and so my body is going to have to be returned for a refund and the full review is off for now. Here's my brief first impressions with it - The 4K/60p full frame with DIS is a favourite mode of mine, great for handheld work. The Leica SL2 does full frame 4K/60 as well but only in 8bit Rec.709. Here, it is 10bit LOG. There are not many int. recording 5.5K RAW 60p full frame cameras for $6k around Canon LOG and colour science are as good as ever - but surprised to see no Canon LOG 2 in 10bit mode 10% crop of DIS enabled is very small and yet the stabilisation is surprisingly effective, almost IBIS like. Panning is smooth. When combined with mild slow-mo conforming 60p to 24p, it is going to look very cinematic. The approx. 1.3-1.4x crop mode (depending on UHD or DCI4K) allows you to use the 1DX3 "as advertised" without the stupid issues. You get 4K/60p and Dual Pixel AF, with 16ms rolling shutter. No RAW but at least file sizes are manageable. Downsides? With this mode not being S35 1.5x, your S35 lenses may vignette and you lose the look of those, and corner sharpness too. Using full frame lenses you reduce the look of those too. People forget that 16:9 is already a crop of a full frame sensor vertically. Add on top the 1.35x crop and you are now into a very narrow crop vertically of the full frame image circle, losing the beautiful rendering in the corners. Also, the DSLR EF mount is much less adaptable than mirrorless to lenses designed for S35. So there are no vintage Arriflex or PL beauties on this camera. In 4096 x 2160 aspect ratio 17:9 - the vertical crop is even more, although active sensor area is a bit wider. You can get the extra reach of around 2x crop with DIS on full enhanced mode and 4K in crop mode - but image is soft The DSLR form factor has pros and cons. Brilliant grip and control layout. Fantastic OVF, fantastic for stills. But I do miss articulated screen & EVF. A great shot getter and a great stills camera Here is the bad - 5.5K Canon RAW file sizes are almost unmanageable, especially in 60p. Compatibility is also less than stellar depending on the NLE. 32ms rolling shutter is appalling in the non-60P full frame 4K and 5.5K RAW Disabling Dual Pixel AF in full frame 4K and 5.5K 60p modes seems unnecessary There is a bug which messes up DIS when you switch back and forth between video and stills live-view 3.2" screen feels pokey and small in 2020 on such a big body $6k camera, and it has much more competition than Canon 1D C did back in 2012 And here is the competition people should consider - For full frame 10bit 4K and 5K there is the Leica SL2. The 5K is an anamorphic mode. So that's one over on the 1DX3 already. For 10bit 4K with very good autofocus, there is the Fuji X-T4. Far less rolling shutter and more features. Better ergonomics. IBIS. EVF. Metabones EF Speed Booster expected to have very good AF too (if Fringer EF adapter is any guide) and the camera + adapter is around $4000 cheaper than the 1DX3. The 1DX3 does have the autofocus going for it over the Panasonic cameras, but then it has terrible rolling shutter in these modes. Panasonic - The S1 has a compelling 10bit full frame 4K image, which is every bit the equal of the 1DX3 in my early impressions of it, and Canon's codec. The Canon codec does have a higher bitrate though, and ALL-I. The Panasonic S1H on the other hand, bumps everything up - higher bitrate codec, ALL-I, 6K. This, for 24p, is hard to beat. But it doesn't have the autofocus side that the 1DX3 has and to be honest the 1DX3 body design is much sexier and feels better in the hand, even though it's a DSLR! There is also no fan on the 1DX3 so it's more robust and better weather sealed. In terms of pure cinema... Fuji GFX 100. This maintains the full frame image in 16:9 and 17:9, because with the larger medium format sensor, the active vertical image sensor area is as large as the 1DX3 in 3:2 full frame stills mode. At the left and right frame edges you will get softness or vignetting with certain lenses, but it's about finding the right lenses. So as a "super full frame" 10bit 4K camera the GFX 100 takes some beating. The ergonomics for video are superior to the 1DX3. The autofocus is on-chip phase-detect but doesn't work very well, so this is a 1DX3 advantage once again. However, there is no better manual focus cinema camera in small form factor than the GFX 100. Nothing. Also, the 100MP stills are in a different league to the 1DX3. There is no 4K/60p or 120fps 1080p on the GFX 100, but it may be getting ProRes RAW and a big firmware update. You can get one for around £8300 used. Is it worth £2000 more than the 1DX3? Yes, yes and yes. In terms of just good full frame 4K/24p with good autofocus - there is the Nikon Z6, Sony A7 III and Sony A9. All are pretty cheap these days. So, a lot of competition to the 1DX3 in many aspects of the spec sheet. It is unique in certain ways. A) It is the best DSLR ever made. Nikon D6 does not touch it. It is almost as if Nikon didn't have an answer and re-badged the D5! B) It is much more a video orientated 1D C Mark II than the 1D X II was. Nothing comes closer to the classic 1D C look or handling as a highly video capable DSLR. C) It is the only full frame stills camera that does 10bit 4K/60p and 12bit 5.5K RAW internal recording. Although Panasonic S1H runs it VERY close. D) There is no other full frame 10bit camera on the market with as capable autofocus in video mode E) There is no other camera on the market with 10bit 4K in a DSLR body with OVF Do you need it? Do you need to spend that $6K? Probably not. In terms of cinematic 4K/24/25p 10bit I still believe there are better value for money crop sensor choices out there - X-T4, GH5S, GH5. There are also much cheaper 10bit full frame 4K options from Panasonic - S1 especially, but even buying an S1H is cheaper. All far less rolling shutter too.