Andrew Reid

It doesn't need to be from the same time, just the same exposure relative to middle grey and same ISO

With such a fast sensor they have a lot more temporal resolution, so higher ISO performance if they use multi-frame NR. In the future, we won't be looking at single frame, despite The Power of One Frame ironically being the marketing slogan for the a9 III 🙂 The power of 120fps more like.

Interested to see more on this subject. Let's see how far Sony has come from the early global shutter sensor Blackmagic Production Cam 4K which couldn't do ISO 800! Here's my findings so far: https://www.eoshd.com/news/sony-a9-iii-high-iso-raw-test-a-noisier-6k-sensor-than-predecessor/

The way to fix any dynamic range shortcoming with global shutter is to use multiple frame HDR RAW like a phone. 120fps at full resolution is easily enough to enable 6 or 7 frames, merged into one, without a noticeable hit in terms of shutter lag, or processing time

Hopefully the multi-frame RAW NR and custom LUT features will make it into future firmware updates for the a1. Maybe that's the plan with the a9 III as well, not quite ready for release day?

https://www.eoshd.com/news/thoughts-on-the-sony-a9-iii-first-global-shutter-mirrorless-camera/ Here's my take on it. I love it, great camera... But... a1 is cheaper used, and does 8K at 500Mbit/s 422 The global shutter is capable of 6K at 120fps, but Sony didn't implement any 6K modes, no open gate, or anamorphic, and no Cinema 24p in the image processor. I have heard the image processor is not capable of oversampling at 120fps from 6K-> 4K so the 4K/120fps is likely pixel binned from the 6K. I believe the 4K/59.94/29.97/23.98 are oversampled from that full 6K output. I like the new grip, looks more comfortable and is to be honest more stylish as well. Can't really see a use for 120fps stills shooting, it's not a scientific camera.... although it could be used as one!!

They are holding back on the video side but it's still a big step up from the original a9 and 9 II. It has S-LOG for starters! 🙂 The sensor does 6K but unlike Fuji, Canon and Panasonic, Sony have chosen not to give us it. Codec is capped to 4K, oversampled. Surely with a global shutter design, the sensor is destined for cinema cameras, which could be why we don't see the full capabilities of it in the a9 II. Market segmentation, and battery power / heat management / image processing limits all at play here. It's still a very exciting tool and clearly a step up from the a7s III. However I am keen to see whether global shutter hurts low light performance, and dynamic range, when the first reviews come out. PS - this is the sensor I think the Panasonic S1H II will have

They certainly are that. This technology is the future and will result in the end of mechanical shutters once it becomes more broadly available and common. The only thing is, I feel we have peaked a bit. Sony a1 still does everything I need and it's hard to see what on the specs sheet needs to change. Of more value to me would be a big change in shooting concept and more imaginative design, rather than this game of constantly escalating numbers and speeds.

Sony a1 for documentary.

£9.99 to unlock the full app. £3500 for a decent mirrorless camera. You choose 🙂

And it is sooo much better than Filmic Pro. https://www.eoshd.com/news/apple-event-was-shot-with-blackmagic-camera-app/

My thoughts: https://www.eoshd.com/news/apple-positions-iphone-15-pro-as-a-cinema-camera-wants-a-share-of-the-mirrorless-market/

Some thoughts on what the Leica Q3 specs mean for Panasonic's next big mirrorless cameras https://www.eoshd.com/news/new-leica-q3-points-to-future-panasonic-s1h-mark-ii-specs-such-as-8k-and-prores/

Looks like Canon wants in on the game too https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/news/canon-asks-customers-which-classic-film-camera-it-should-bring-back Perhaps they can bring back those nice vintage FD lenses as well 🙂

The Mi10 and mi10 pro have same main sensor, but the Pro model a slightly better lens (hardly noticeable difference in reality). The main difference is the extra aux lenses on the Pro. 108 MP, f/1.7, (wide), 1/1.33", 0.8µm, PDAF, Laser AF, OIS 12 MP, f/2.0, 50mm (telephoto), 1/2.55", 1.4µm, Dual Pixel PDAF, 2x optical zoom 8 MP, f/2.0, (telephoto), 1.0µm, PDAF, OIS, 3.7x optical zoom, 5x hybrid zoom 20 MP, f/2.2, 13mm (ultrawide), 1/2.8", 1.0µm You get three including a 3.7x optical zoom module which can shoot 3K RAW video. The ultrawide is on both the mi10 and mi10 pro and is capable of 4K RAW video, it's quite a good one.

If ZV-1 has same options as RX100 series you'll need to use Cine2 instead of Cine4 for PP1.

Cheaper alternative to 12S Ultra is the Xiaomi Mi 10 which can be had for about 200-300 euros used. This produces 6K RAW reliably at 24fps in Cinema DNG from a 1/1.33" sensor, same size as a top-end Galaxy and much larger than the older phones with their tiny 1/2.5" chips. Oneplus 8 Pro is the MotionCam's developers favoured device. It's reliable, fast, great sensor, good selection of lenses and does 4K/60p in RAW. McPro24fps is very handy for 10bit when you don't want the massive file sizes of RAW. By the way MotionCam can transcode to ProRes on Android phones in-app, or you can do it in post with their free app too. It's the Magic Lantern of phones basically.

All depends on the lenses really doesn't it... Canon Dream Lens, you wouldn't use that on 2x crop, would lose the whole point of it. And there are c-mount lenses that make a lot of modern full frame lenses look flat and boring. So every format has cinematic lenses, but the point is that with the larger formats you have more subject isolation, which could suit the shot or not, it all depends on the scene.

If you want to go full on cinema with a phone, get Motion Cam for 4K and even 6K RAW recording on certain Android phones. The best options for that are quite cheap. Oneplus 8 Pro for example If you want the convenience of H.265 get a Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra and install Mcpro24, hike up the bitrate and shoot in 6K mode. Avoid the stock camera apps on Android, compressed, oversharpened, and 8K that isn't anywhere near 8K. iPhone shoots good video using Blackmagic's app. Stock app is vastly superior to the Android stock camera apps for video. ProRes for a start! Avoid Filmic Pro. It's a rip off and Mcpro24 is a lot better. Finally, look carefully at the older models before jumping in with latest and greatest (S23 Ultra for example, is a waste of money). The Xiaomi 12S Ultra has a 1" sensor and definitely outperforms Samsung in every way. The iPhone 15 Pro Max is tempting for Apple LOG though.

I was thinking the other day about how almost all lenses look best wide open. So if it's a full frame F1.4 lens you see most clearly the rendering it has wide open rather than say, F5.6. The advantage of a 2x crop sensor is that you get to shoot wide open and see more detail in backgrounds. You take, say a 10mm F2.0 micro four thirds lens, it has the look of F2 but the deeper DOF as well so the setting isn't completely creamed out. If you have a really beautiful setting, you don't want it to be invisible and just bokeh in every shot. So you could stop your full frame lens down to F4 or even F8 but then the whole character of the lens is lost and they all look uniformly pretty much the same beyond F4. I think it begs a comparison... I might do one soon. Take a Super 16mm 26mm F1.1 lens on a GH6, and compare it to a 50mm F1.2 on full frame, and also the same 50mm but stopped down to F2.2 to match the equivalent aperture of the S16mm lens at F1.1 wide open. On the otherhand, the advantage of full frame might reveal itself more clearly when the focus distance is further out, and the subject remains a little bit separated from the environment, whereas on the 2x crop camera they'd be on the same focus plane, 'infinity' might start from about 3m outwards. I understand the appeal of medium format, 65mm, large format cinema cameras, full frame, and so on... Just think that 2x crop is not without merit and can even serve the story better in many cases.

Last weekend was shocking. Absolute pure evil and terror. A brutal loss of life in Israel. It is understandable they are out for revenge, but it should be Hamas and terrorist groups that get wiped off the face of the earth. Not women and kids. A lot of binary views out there, with people taking sides, that's the nature of war I suppose. This isn't my war. And it isn't even many of theirs. There are so many civilians in that part of the world who want nothing to do with Hamas and just want to live peacefully in their home without the threat of Israeli bombs falling and occupation. Surely we can all agree on this - that women and children should be spared. The Israeli government doesn't seem to want to do that. Many of the young Israeli victims at the music festival who were slaughtered in the prime of their lives also sympathised with the NORMAL people in Gaza who are NOT terrorists. Most people are not in nodding-dog mode USA-government style total adoration of the Israeli government and their politics. I also think it is darkly ironic that so many on the extreme socialist left of Western politics and even many in the LGBTQ community seem to want to think of Hamas as heroic freedom fighters. Actually if these people ever came face to face in reality with Hamas they would be the FIRST in line to get beheaded. I despise the actions of both Hamas and the Israeli government. Palestinian civilians as mere collateral, the occupation of their land, it is all so wrong. Before wiping out terorism in Gaza there should have been a MASSIVE humanitarian effort to evacuate the civilian women & children population by sea. By going ahead with a ground-invasion possibly as early as this weekend, is the Israeli government comfortable to be seen in the eyes of the world to be committing genocide? Does it want the death of nearly 2 million innocent people on their hands and to lose the support of the world's public? Yes they are entitled to destroy Hamas and defend themselves so that what happened last weekend will not be repeated. No, they cannot be allowed to take senseless revenge on Palestinians by bombing kids in their beds, it is the stuff of war crimes. Hopefully people in a binary view, blindly supporting ONE SIDE against the other will be able to come to terms with the fact that no binary argument is ever valid in war. As for the West, we seem to be standing by without any plan whatsoever to get the civilian population out of Gaza to safety. We are sending the navy, warships, no rescue boats, no proper safe corridor into another country, nothing. Of course it would be a big logistical effort, with massive number of security checks, but even a few large ships could save thousands of lives, even if you just take children or those under the age of 18 and their mothers, sisters, brothers. Leave the Hamas hardcore fanatics to fight, and get the kids out of there...

The GH6 when I come back to it the next day takes 2 seconds to boot from cold. From then on, powers on instantly unless I again leave it turned off for a long period of time. So I can see the logic in this - it enters a quick-start / sleep mode for faster power cycling during a shoot, but this also seems to sometimes not disengage or go into 'cold' deep sleep mode properly, thus drains the battery over several days. They really need to sort it out. Email going off to Pana HQ soon from me and I'll show them a link to this thread, thumbs-up for all the experiences you've posted.

Some more insights, this time from the GH6: I was able to get it to boot up instantly, but when you pull the battery and start from 'cold', there is still a 1-3 sec delay in boot-up. This makes me think that the camera has a 'warm' shut down mode which sips power to facilitate the instant boot-up. The Sigma Fp-L is another camera which can be slow to wake up. 1-3 seconds. This doesn't drain the battery, and seemingly lacks the ability to turn on any faster. There is a menu on the Panasonics: "Power Save Mode" I have put Sleep Mode to Off and Sleep Mode (Wi-fi) to off. Maybe when Wi-fi sleep is enabled, the Wi-fi chip stays active and connected to your network. Could that be the prime candidate for draining the battery and even the slow-start ups? You will notice whenever you enter the Wifi menu on a Lumix, it takes a couple of seconds wait time to enable the wifi chip.

That is a crazy amount of power to use in 24hrs, for a camera that's off! What's it doing? The way to test that is to see if it retains the date/time when you remove the main battery and re-insert. The power to keep the SRAM or whatever it is that stores the time alive is absolutely tiny so it shouldn't be draining the main battery. It is the kind of power required that takes 10 years to drain a button cell.

https://www.eoshd.com/news/panasonic-battery-problems-s5-ii-also-drains-charge-when-switched-off/ They should really fix this.