Andrew Reid

The iPhone 11 has a bog standard LCD panel with no HDR. The iPhone 11 Pro is the one i am talking about http://www.displaymate.com/iPhone_11Pro_ShootOut_1P.htm This is a modern high end smartphone screen. This is what cameras should have. It's that simple. It shouldn't be that your $800 smartphone has a better screen than your $2800 cinema camera.

So it is 625? Or 1290?

iPhone 11 screen has a peak nit brightness of 1290 in HDR. http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=iphone+11+nit+brightness

I've spent weeks wracking my brain on how Matt Granger made it to 661,000 subscribers And I just can't possibly figure it out. But it has happened and Matt is one of THE authorities on cameras. Although sometimes he gets confused about the concept of a mirrorless camera. "It shoots up to approximately 20fps with the mirror up" THIS explains everything, including why I always had problems with that imaginary mirror in my GH5, it always seems to stay up out of the way and never make that satisfying flippy flippy sound. Then it REALLY got me fhinking... why is it called a mirrorless? The world is a really weird place, very confusing. So I often turn to YouTube for the sheer quality of talent on there and the expertise to enlighten me in dark times... With the gift of knowledge. In fact I envy the man. He is one of the biggest and best commentators along with the Northrup's and their whiteboard. Who can say they don't deserve it.... The 5 minutes he spends quibbling over the difference between 19.1fps and 20fps is pure entertainment. I have subscribed and smashed the notifications button.

Matt Granger is a Sony shill and he looks like he's shit himself. Not even sprinkling porno into his videos will save him now. He's headed for the dustbin of irrelevance along with his A7 III.

Especially after so long telling customers that 1080p is good enough and they don't need 4K! As U-turns go it's pretty huge.

The display on a modern smartphone (very high nit and OLED too), costs in the region of $80 https://www.eetasia.com/news/article/18032605-galaxy-s9-plus-dissected-bom-revealed Although this is mass produced in very high quantities and in-house at Samsung, a big part of that cost is down to it being cutting edge and curved at the edges, custom made for one product and not an off the shelf part. All we ask of the Pocket cameras is a brighter panel - not even OLED and certainly no need for curves or cutting edge manufacturing. Even if you double the cost of the display, you're probably not going to have to raise the price of the camera significantly in order to absorb the cost at retail... Perhaps by $50. And your sales will go up because it's a better product you're giving people. Blackmagic has plenty of suppliers in Asia that can provide them with a good enough screen. Look for one yourself and tell me the price, you may be surprised at what you find. The more you order, the lower the price, so factor that in too. Order a batch of 1000 and see how the price falls. I just don't think it was ever a priority to see the Pocket's screen in daylight, the thought didn't pass between the ears of Blackmagic managers. It it were a high priority, they'd have spent the dosh and sorted out the problem. Instead we have a near uselessly dim view of our image outdoors. And we're stuck with it on both the 4K and 6K, nothing changed in-between to justify the doubling of the price (apart from the new sensor and lens mount). Does Blackmagic's office have doors without hinges and they climb through cat flaps? Common sense doesn't seem to be their forte. Otherwise said screen would also have a hinge like in the DIY mods. As the old saying goes... if you want something doing properly DO IT YOURSELF

I still prefer to shoot with the X-H1 😂 Hopefully X-T4 will be an X-H2 down to the millimetre and even the exact curvature of the nice deep grip.

Canon making their own sensors is a big advantage on the others who tip-toe around with half a foot in the door of the design process and 100% of the manufacturing contracted out to Sony who have a virtual monopoly. Fuji, Nikon and Panasonic all have their own designs, Panasonic even has the organic sensor tech with TowerJazz and there are other manufacturers like Samsung capable of matching or exceeding Sony's capabilities, but I think it's an insane risk to have CMOS sensors from one supplier (Sony) in nearly ALL the current mirrorless models! Canon took a while to bring their new manufacturing plants in Taiwan online but now it appears to have paid off. Sony will have to go lower on price with the A7S III or do something surprising like the FS5 e-ND.

Truly the lightweight camp with me as well, I never want to pick up an Alexa, it's a camera for a crew on a set. It isn't for documentary or one-one man auteur projects. Going down in size to something like a C200 isn't even my cup of tea. I want a picture in the palm of my hand, nimble as the human eye, with minimal controls and no clutter to distract from the art of filmmaking. More and more filmmakers even on Hollywood projects are attracted to this style of shooting for the B-cam and alternative angles.... I find it personally liberating for my kind of style. If only the Blackmagic Pocket 6K was fully integrated with the brighter screen and EVF. Just the brighter screen would have cost $20 more in manufacturing costs per unit perhaps, thus covered by a $40 increase in the price of each unit. $40 to see the screen in direct sunlight. Deal? Come on Blackmagic... Do this concept justice. Amazing price, amazing image, amazing UI but lazy execution as a whole.

I don't want to make my mirrorless camera look like a cinema camera, it's that simple. You can't grab shots in public as discreetly, make mood pieces (like moving street photography), and on a music video shoot it is a PITA to babysit a second device, with second battery and second boot-up time. Then there is the balance of the rig, the centre of gravity for handheld work, the wobbly HDMI cable I absolutely can't stand. The actual camera movement is impacted by the lopsided top heavy mounting of a monitor. To balance the weight you have to add more weight. Before you know it, you have a spider rig that weighs more than a fully integrated, dedicated camera camera and that for me was the total opposite of what mirrorless cameras were supposed to be. I started EOSHD to get away from all that. I am 100% anti monitor, anti external add-ons.

I miss the old A7s Nice and small, very light, and simply one of the best 1080p images ever for the time.

So does anybody click and read articles any more? Jesus wept The shots are from the DXOMark Xiaomi article I linked to, I didn't take them! First one is Huawei Mate 30 Pro and second iPhone 11 Pro, it is a test of the zoom which partially explains why the iPhone 11 Pro looks very bad but still, shows how far behind Apple are slipping versus the Chinese. 108MP Xiaomi shots are ok but soft lens. The monster sensor needs better optics. I like the Mate 30 Pro best out of the 3 in the article. I'll post my own comparisons as well vs my iPhone XS Max. It absolutely thrashes what was an already very capable camera on the Apple device. So time to catch up America... Time is ticking.

I have a Huawei Mate 30 Pro and quite amazed with it. Apple really need to get their act together. Until now they have pulled up subpar hardware with good colour and skin tones but looking at this horror show, I don't think it is even the case any more. https://www.dxomark.com/xiaomi-mi-10-pro-camera-review/ Mate 30 Pro iPhone 11 Pro Xiaomi Mi 9 Pro has the new 108 megapixel sensor, similar to Samsung S20 Ultra. However the lens seems much better on the Mate 30 Pro and ultra wide angle camera is crazy good - big sensor like the main camera. Really happy with it... And yes, I loaded Google apps onto it and Play Store works fine, was done in 5 mins! So much for Trump trying to protect his subpar American technology

Yes all 100% true - thanks for the insight. Does ProRes absolutely have to be implemented in FPGA form? In my opinion - ProRes encoding doesn't have to be on the main ASIC - Can't it be a separate FPGA chip or ASIC? Either way, a ProRes ASIC should have been in development in Japan ages ago and ready to go. Instead we are still asking and they are unable / unwilling to invest and deliver. Very frustrating. Yes another missed opportunity. What IS the deal with the FS5 vari-ND not making it into other products??!

I agree with you. GH1 is really the founding camera of this site, not the 5D Mark II. Blackmagic have innovated with BRAW and Resolve, yes sure. But you talk about achievable tools for target market - indie and aspiring filmmakers - we need IBIS, we need an EVF, and a screen visible in daylight. We also need the option for a sensor larger than S35. When does ticking off a specs sheet become innovation? I see the EOS R5 specs less as a trophy item, more of an all-guns blazing approach vs Blackmagic's paired back cost cut mission.

As a small camera, I'll be happy with X-H2 style X-T4... Basically the X-H1 body design but with X-T3 video specs and a bit extra, like an anamorphic mode. Doesn't have to be 6K or 4K 120fps! I will always need a good Super 35mm option for my Arriflex lenses and LOMO OCT19 Anamorphic better suited to S35 as well. Not everything has to be a full frame R5 monster cam and cost $4000!

I wonder what percentage of $3000 these licensing deals actually would cost the Japanese camera makers. Just pass the cost onto the customer and they will gladly pay. Who would turn down Alexa colour science and ProRes RAW for $300 extra? We are talking top end cutting edge mirrorless cameras not consumer low-end. Or do a patent swap. The main challenge will be getting Arri and Apple to agree, me thinks.

X-T4 "dead to me" A7S III has to "step over FX line" Yep, it's not looking good for the competition. The brand name Canon and lure of 8K will be too much for many people, but the best thing for me about Canon's great awakening is that hopefully they will get all the basics right... Like full frame 10bit 4K with no crop, great colour science, the classic cinematic 1D C look in C-LOG, Dual Pixel AF and very good IBIS, all in a nice mirrorless body which has a much better and more "pro" control layout compared to the silly toy one that came before it.

"EOSHD" all capitals. They are not more inventive. They just understand the appeal to filmmakers, enthusiasts and videographers, of the phrase "Cinema Camera" and the codec options "ProRes and RAW", for cheap. Things that so far completely allude the Japanese!

It's not so much the form factor, as in the overall shape and I love small cameras It is more so aspects of handling within the body - such as the lack of good screen visibility in daylight, lack of articulated screen without Chinese DIY mod & voiding warranty, lack of EVF and IBIS, you know, the kind of stuff we get for under $1000 on mirrorless cameras as standard and have done for 6+ years. A bit lazy of them if you ask me. OK, some just want a sensor and cinematic in a box. Some charm to that. Simplicity is good and AF/IBIS makes me lazy / less disciplined in terms of shooting style. Still, I have to compare it to the mirrorless cameras in terms of how much of a "shot getter" it is and how comfortable it is to use. Glorious image on the LCD and great menus do redeem it somewhat.

The toughest competition in 2020 will come from the surprise Canon EOS R5 with 8K video. Although 8K is an attention grabbing technical achievement, most people will use this camera in 4K mode. The competition now has an 'image problem' delivering cameras at 4K and 6K resolution to customers obsessed with resolution. I therefore expect the Sony A7S III to shoot 8K and for the GH6 / GH8 to also shoot 8K but really it is all a distraction. What matters isn't 8K, it's the following... https://www.eoshd.com/cameras/canon-eos-r5-what-the-competition-must-do-next/

We were all expecting a lot more info than the one page press release that's for sure. Seems Canon is keeping some stuff close to their chest to avoid Sony being able to outgun with A7S III. And why the development announcement 6 months before the camera is launched - the answer is that they want to dampen sales of the Sony A7S III and Fuji X-T4 which are both now imminent. There are signs there was also a bit of a waiting game at Sony. They wanted to see what Canon had planned before pushing the button on the A7S III. I see the EOS R5 as a competitor not just to the A7S III but to the A7R IV and successor too. Sony is in trouble here. They are going to see quite a few ex-Canon users leave and go back home. It will depend on how invested they were in E-mount glass. If they all kept their EF lenses and used adapters, Sony are going to see a big fall off. Panasonic need to raise to the game as well, get autofocus sorted out (and with the MC-21 not just their own lenses) as a matter of urgency.

Now we're moving from rumours to official launch and specs, the discussion continues at main thread here - Cheers!

One topic to discuss the official EOS R5 video / cinema capabilities This page will have the official launch information on it very soon... https://www.eoshd.com/news/canon-eos-r5-8k-video-its-official/