Andrew Reid

Z-LOG is an in-camera LOG profile for video shooting on the Nikon Z7 and Z6 mirrorless cameras, and most Nikon DSLRs. Available now

Yet again they gave it to someone else!!

For me even the way the RAW files look on default Photoshop (ACR) settings is a factor in my decision to like that camera or find it a completely pain in the ass. Leica M9 for instance - bang. Perfect. Barely need to touch the RAWs in Adobe Camera Raw. Sony Raw - eh. Honestly most photographers do simple changes. Contrast, curve maybe, saturation, that's about it. They don't go fine tuning individual hues or luma / sat curves and mess with advanced colour channel settings or profiles. They just want it quick and easy. For me it is a complete mystery why the manufacturers cannot grasp this simple point! Sony's RAW files look so flat when you open them. It's another stupid default setting decision. Stephen is right above - that the colour science is now in the software and not the camera, apart from the fact you are seeing raw sensor data - so it's representative of the hardware in that sense. And he is definitely bang on the money to say Tony throwing video into his RAW colour science (actually just a white balance test) is total nonsense and misleading bullshit.

I think you may have started a new meme @BTM_Pix

Seen it before. Part of the problem with Sony is that their colour matches a chart but looks clinical on real-world subjects. We are talking about video by the way, not RAW where the colour processing is in post. In warm sunlight, the Sony too often looks dead. Canon 1D X JPEG: Sony A7S II JPEG: On some screens this will vary. The Canon might look like it has too much magenta and red in the skin tones. That's the display that's at fault or the browser, not the camera file. The Sony looks dead no matter what you view it on

Just a quick test. Big difference!!

I am getting more and more used to Resolve for editing. Closer than ever before to switching. Using Resolve 15 Studio. It came with a free Pocket 4K!

I've had this before as well! Turned out to be one browser was showing it according to the Display profile in Mac OS and the other one was using SRGB or doing it's own thing. At the time I had an LG 4K monitor and when I changed the monitor colour mode in the LG monitor menus to match Mac OS the problem went away and both browsers were the same. A lot of people do see colour differences between computers and that's why it causes so many arguments about camera colour!

The entire core product is probably secondary to marketing. They probably have 10x the number of branding and marketing or PR staff than people working in technical, design and creative positions. The core product will go to shit at some point and all their customers will use something better, from a hungry rival. And Adobe will be dead.

I was tweeted at by a programmer / tech guy on the Premiere team the other month and his Twitter feed is full of him trying out Resolve himself!! He was criticising it at one point, but someone corrected him and it turned out to be user error. In other tweets he's being pretty clueless as well. I think sometimes there is a lack of common sense in the tech teams, coupled with a lack of oversight from the management. Premiere is not release-worthy and every year it is the same. Appalling reliability and clearly they are getting heat for it not just from normal customers but from big customers and institutions.... otherwise they wouldn't need to put out propaganda and have Johnnie salivating all over them.

A CEO says "failing often can be empowering" because they are never the ones to get the brunt of the consequences and can always continue their career somewhere else high-paid. I think it's almost like a spoilt child who doesn't care what toys they break as they immediately get a replacement! She's shafting us who rely on Vimeo for work, and at the same time is immune herself to the controversy. Living in some kind of bubble. It's the highest form of entitlement and late stage capitalism.

Yeah impressive. Especially considering how heavy the BMCC 2.5K used to be and the URSAs!

The Cinema5D videos are almost all ripe for parody... Where's that laughing Spanish man when you need him!?

Yes but the conclusion of the video I have a problem with. It's simply wrong. Sony's colour science is according to the video far better and a crowd pleaser, vs the competition like Canon, Nikon and Fuji. I know from my own eyes this is simply bollocks. Yes changing WB makes people change their mind on what is the best image, no shit! This is just filmmaking basics. Speaking not of white balance settings on the camera for a moment but looking at it creatively, Game of Thrones has a cool palette, other shows have a warm grade, and so on... It is supposed to match the scene and the content. In cases where a warmer look is necessary like in natural light to maintain the ambience of incandescent light, the Sony fell flat. You have no idea how many months I spent correcting this with custom WB presets in EOSHD Pro Colour and special colour settings to overcome Sony's sterile white balance handling and poor handling of ambience. Yes movies have strong colour grading, who'd have thought?! That's all part of the creative process. We are not talking about lab technicians. They are professional colourists. All this matters a lot. So the debate on colour science is not overrated. I don't agree with Tony's conclusion - either the outcome of the vote, or the underlying "colour science doesn't matter, and it's easy to change with a click of a button" bullshit. No, a lot of people want straight out of the camera satisfaction and they don't have the time nor the skillset to go off and do advanced colour correction. That's just us, who can afford the time to "correct every shot". It's pretty glib of Tony saying, if you don't like Sony's colour "just change it" (I guess the raw stills he is referring to) For a start it is not RAW when it comes to video. It's baked into the H.264 files. Even if you shoot S-LOG, S-Gamut is baked in and comes out in the grade. People have spent hours trying to get S-Gamut in post to look the way they want. I don't think Tony has even ever graded S-LOG? So how can he suddenly be an authority on colour science? You guys need to get off YOUTUBE. Put the tablets away.

Everybody knows that some people have brand loyalties. How is that new, revelatory or interesting? How the fuck is that an inherent bias? It's pure objectivity. I look at one image, and compare to another. I have videos showing it. I have sales and feedback backing it up as repeatable and provable in the field by Sony users - who have no Canon bias. To apply the fixes and the emotionally satisfying colour demonstrated by one camera system to another camera system, has nothing to do with the brand labels and everything to do with Canon's scientific process and what they do in the processing pipeline, and what Sony is doing wrong.

The answer is no, they can't be destroyed like that at all. IAC has several billions of dollars in revenue and Vimeo is the 134th most popular site in the world, with millions of paying subscribers, established a good 14 years - which is a LONG time in terms of an internet business. Vimeo should mute the video based on Content ID then investigate the Fair Use claim made by the user, or allow the user to provide a license. Instead, they do nothing to protect the user from DMCA take-downs or lawsuits, and then simply terminate their filmmaking portfolio after 3 strikes. Fair? Yes, IAC. Yes, you're right. The winner is elevator musak.

It's pretty well established that the record label wants streaming revenue. Why not just give it them? YouTube is. Unless the problem is that Vimeo simply cannot afford it. It's possible they cannot strike a deal with the recording industry like YouTube has for streaming revenue, because Vimeo don't run ads. Any streaming revenue would have to come from their subscription fees. However I hardly think they are a tiny, small company. They have MANY subscribers, paying quite a bit. So sort it out, or lose them. Indeed Vimeo are 134 on the Alexa rank. Yup. 134th largest site on earth. Their parent company has revenue of over $3 billion per year (2016) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAC_(company) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimeo And they cannot spare $100m or less to sort out critical legal issues and protect their users.

The vents are raised off the base and sloping upwards towards the mount. So the tripod plate doesn't block them. Hard to tell from the picture but it's true.

Tony in the video has shot his hallway which is practically monochromatic. The main differences in colour are a result not of the colour science, but of the white balance settings. So this is not a Colour Science video. It's a White Balance test in artificial light. The shot in the hallway he said everyone loved, because "warm" - looks YELLOW when he shows it full screen on YouTube, typical Sony style, but warm and good looking on the TV monitor behind him. At the end he ranks the colour voting and Sony comes out on top by a wide margin, going against everything I know from direct experience making EOSHD Pro Color and shooting with almost every camera on the market, over a period of over 8 years running this site. It also seems to be confirming not just the channel's strange Sony bias which has been commented on before but the bias Tony himself pointed out of Sony users earlier in the video, which made me chuckle a bit. Nikon and Canon come out bottom, FOR NO OTHER REASON because their white balance settings were presumably set to keep absolute white rather than to keep the ambience of the scene, which is a built-in default setting Canon/Nikon strength and always has been. Again proving that is a test of white balance, not colour science. He even took a page out of Max Y's book and didn't bother detailing in depth the camera settings used. Nice try Tony. He really is the Clickbait Emperor. Gets us talking every time. Maybe try again, do an actual colour science test not white balance.... And don't try and pretend it's scientific.

Travel paid for by Adobe. Trip organised by Adobe. Meetings organised by Adobe. But the sellout is all Johnnie's.

I've seen vacuum cleaners with better AI.

WHAT!? What does that even mean. The colour science of a camera is at least 50% about the adjustment of user parameters and how it responds. How flexible that engine is... Also for instance you can have fundamental underlying colour gamut, colour space formats, gamma curves that stay the same even if you adjust other things like white balance and hue. Do these not matter??! Oh yes it is. Very complex stuff. Even different RAW files from different cameras handle differently in post so it is not just about flicking a switch and going "ah, I like it now". Same with film stocks.

Yeah, I have fond memories, but if the portfolio I've spent 10 years on isn't guaranteed safe, it leaves me little choice but to do something about it! I mean, an online video channel is so key to what we do... Always has been... If it were to disappear randomly one night in the blink of an eye because Vimeo's CEO doesn't have her eye on the ball, it'll be a disaster for me and for EOSHD, the blog. Whatever I think of Vimeo in 2018 and what it has changed to become, it all comes down to that really. I'd rather stay and enjoy the community there... Maybe from a safer distance, from now on. I also really like that YouTube makes an effort to explain their DMCA stuff in a more friendly way and in plenty of detail. The first I knew of Vimeo's policy was a big warning message flashing up saying my account was an inch away from obliteration