Andrew Reid

I'd agree with that. A7 III ripped a hole in the full frame market pricing and we see a race to the bottom, but Fuji is doing something far more interesting with insane value for money APS-C cameras that simulate the look of film. The 18-55mm OIS works incredibly well, it's as good at run & gun (great AF, par focal) as it is at cinema.

The only time these "internet celebrities" join a proper forum like this is when they hear their name mentioned.

I would prefer mirrorless form factor like GH5, NX1 or S1H!

I filled it out and told them basically.... - ProRes - Internal ND - Simple ergonomics, not JVC/Sony camcorder nightmare buttons everywhere and shit menus - Canon EF mount, with good AF if possible - Super 35mm or Full frame

It's exactly what the NX1 needs, tones down the greens and over-sharpening. The great thing is, with the hack and Gamma DR you can stick it at ISO 800 and rarely need to go higher, you just push the exposure in post. Really cleans up the image and stops the overzealous in-camera noise reduction from muddying it up. Never shoot at ISO 6400 on the NX1, always at 800 and boost it in post!

Updated the instructions in the first post, so they're more detailed and cover the preparation steps / nx-on-wake.

All comments on the forum by new users start off in a moderation queue, and until they're approved they're automatically hidden by the server. Without this important control, the forum will have a daily stream of Viagra posts. Max's first post is on page 1, and he's explained some of the test and admitted the poster frame is manipulated to catch the attention of YouTube's clickbait algorithm controlled audience. I do admit my reaction was a bit harsh and it's nice of Max to finally say hello, but if he's bought Pro Color previously, he's clearly been around lurking and probably using the blog for inspiration for quite a few years now, without bothering to strike up any kind of friendship, email, or to my knowledge any mention on his YouTube channel. So that's not very endearing. Either way, I just find it difficult to trust somebody who tweaks the facts in pursuit of clicks. It's nothing personal. It's the internet and it's happening all the time... and I do not respect it. I don't know why Jon's being mentioned all of a sudden. Jon used to be a moderator here, until he started being weird and aggressive to pretty much everybody, then he turned into a Sony fanboy and got even more aggressive, had a fight with Jon Brawley and lost his mod privileges. This was entirely his own fault. Then I finally kicked him out after he argued in every thread with Ed David who I consider a far more talented filmmaker and a much nicer person, so from that point on it was Goodbye, and you see the result now from Jon with his bitter words in his Vietnamese diary. I don't shy away from confrontation with people I think are bad for business, or bad for the community of EOSHD. I'd rather confront. Same with lies and clickbait. Confront, expose and guide people to the facts.

I shot hours and hours of footage to create EOSHD Pro Color. Sony's latest cameras still need it. Fuji is superior. This YouTube clickbait, is not even a proper test. It's some unknown, unstated default settings, completely unoptimised. With maybe 1 or two button presses, the entire result would change. Max has a well known Sony bias, and I simply don't trust what he's showing here is representative. If the Fuji is too green for your liking, and you are sure Max hasn't fiddled the results like he fiddled the poster frame, you know what to do about it. There's a hue control, a white balance control, a saturation control and 8 different film simulations.

I don't trust Max as far as I could throw the little fucker.

I haven't watched the video and probably won't ever. Is the poster frame a complete fake? Oh yes, thought so... he's edited it to be more extreme. Clickbait bullshit.

Bump. Overlooked it for entirety of 2018 but I now realise along with the Olympus E-M10 III, the X-E3 might deserve an EOSHD Total Bargain award. As well as the price, it's the size and weight... might be smallest super 35mm 4k mirrorless camera yet? When I tested the X-T20, the 4K was fine. I recently also tested the X-T30 and although it is as good as the X-T3, I still feel both the X-Pro 2 with 4K firmware upgrade and X-T20 hold their own. Pixel binning is no longer a sin. Canon should try it. Gets rid of the 1:1 crop and reduces rolling shutter. All cameras should have choice between full pixel readout and pixel binning. I prefer the form factor of the E-M3 to the X-T30.... But of course X-T30, although more expensive, brings 1080/120p slow-mo and F-LOG to the table. X-E3 is phase-detect AF, but not as good as X-T30's newer AF engine. Review soon.

Is that the full frame 1080p or the 720p? All cameras have rolling shutter, but if you mean "low" then that's ok... Surely much less than the 4K mode. How do you find the rolling shutter in Super 35mm 1080p crop mode? A decent OIS lens is the 17-55mm F2.8 IS from Canon, good match for the 4K crop on the EOS R so it brings that into play. It's much bulkier than the Fuji 18-55mm F2.8-4 though and not parfocal. Fuji's rolling shutter in 1080p on X-T3 and X-T30 is at least as minimal as the EOS R. There should be up to date measurements somewhere in one place so we can keep track of it. For those that need 4K, the rolling shutter on the EOS R is amongst the worst, and I feel that also needs to be taken into consideration on any list or chart.

I have been playing with the X-T30, and it's even more of a bargain than X-T3. However, it's so small and light that it doesn't work well with larger lenses. The Fuji 18-55mm is a stunner on the X-T30 for documentary use though. It feels small enough to be balanced with the camera controls, and it's not always trying to escape forward and downwards from your grip. The OIS is amazing. The AF is amazing. It is even parfocal and you do not see it trying to refocus during a zoom. So you can do the odd zoom or even fast crash zoom and focus stays nailed on the subject the whole time. The image has all the same qualities as the X-T3 and I can hardly tell difference between the 8bit and 10bit 4K. Also the X-E3 does 4K, and although the detail and rolling shutter isn't up to the X-T30, it's even cheaper and I prefer the ergonomics. You don't get F-LOG but with Fuji film simulations, who needs to spend hours grading?! Yes it is surprising how the 10bit RAW stands up. You only notice the difference in the very deepest shadows and a slightly harsher highlight roll off, but since both ends are usually junk on even a sensor as good as the 5D Mark III's, and I prefer a lot of nice colour and contrast from my raw files rather than the HDR-puke look, it doesn't matter... Better to have the smaller file sizes, although 14bit lossless compression also stands up well in Magic Lantern. Still by one of the best non-4K cinematic images for the money which is competitive with Digital Bolex and Alexa for a film-like look.

I don't listen to people with baseball caps on backwards.

Didn't it turn into RAW Magic? Try that. It's good. Doesn't work with the latest 10bit compressed raw though.

It it in the form of a gold leaf?

Thanks for the spot. I checked Mark's facebook page and it's case closed. Front paged it https://www.eoshd.com/2019/06/supposed-nikon-8k-camera-footage-was-actually-shot-on-red-monstro-vv/

These are two separate stories. The YouTuber guy claims the Canon with the Sigma 18-35 T2 was shooting 8K to an Atomos Shogun via Dual link SDI. It's only his word we have and absolutely zero proof. Either way it's old news as I think Canon has had a C300-type 8K prototype at various shows for years. The Nikon story is also pure conjecture. Zero proof or evidence. Nikon ambassadors probably shoot stills on a Nikon but 8K on a RED. I wouldn't read much else into it.

Yes we'll continue to hook laptops up to third party displays. Or be stuck with non-upgradable iMacs. Apparently Apple forgot about us and went after Sony Pictures instead!

Yes the whole point of ML for me, is that the images are artistic, low-fi, messed-up, film like, amazing to grade... The opposite of modern 8K digital. No matter how good our expensive full frame mirrorless cameras get, there will always be a place for a ML raw video or Digital Bolex Super 16

Couldn't agree more! Now the bar has been raised, it really is time for internal BRAW, ProRes RAW, ProRes 422 and internal NDs. First one to bring all that to a full frame mirrorless camera will sell a boat load if it's priced right. The internal ND should also have an Auto mode like FS5. None of that old filter wheel mechanical stuff. Does anyone know the patent status of that material? Maybe there is a secret market out there where a bloke sits in a room with a RED Monstro 8K VV and makes a TON of money shooting 8K stock footage of plants, birds and the occasional duck??!

See looking at the feedback here, they have missed a huge market for a more reasonably priced version. I want an upgradable modular desktop Mac for a bit more money than a high-end PC. Fed up of iMacs and laptops. Apple have changed a $3000 dustbin into an unobtainable $50,000 investment in computer hardware that becomes more and more obsolete with every year that passes. The thing is going to depreciate in value faster than a new diesel BMW.

Apple Mac Pro Prototypes:

Hmm https://www.eoshd.com/2019/06/apple-targets-red-users-hollywood-and-corporations-with-controversial-new-10000-mac-pro-system-and-6k-display/ So this machine is kind of a tactic admission by Apple they lost the prosumer desktop market to Windows PCs and have given up ever trying to get it back. So they are aiming at pro businesses and studios, not individuals. If you are an individual who can afford to drop over $11k in one go on a base spec Apple computer + 6K screen, and perhaps more like $18,000 if you want the better specced versions, you are very lucky indeed and in an absolutely vanishingly tiny minority!! It beats me why they did not also announce a $2k upgradable modular desktop for the rest of us??? Or does it... PCs, that's why. But I want Mac OS and I am pretty upset at having to stick with comparatively slow iMacs and MacBooks for so many years. The 2013 Mac Pro is a bit of a bad joke in performance terms in 2019 by the way, so that's not an option either.

Do you think Sony's sales have been overstated then? Maybe they are not quite as dominant as we think. Poll would suggest EOSHD community is far more of a Panasonic and even Fuji crowd. It really is very surprising more EOSHD forum users answering this poll use a Pro Camcorder than A7 III!! Maybe results will change given more time and exposure. Might put the poll on a front page blog post and give it more attention.