Andrew Reid

I think that's bang on the money... I dare say Sigma designed or even manufactured glass in Panasonic's lenses and have been doing so for years. Whereas the higher-end optical formulas are Leica, I wonder if Sigma is a contract manufacturer even for those. So for Panasonic to be in bed with Sigma is very cozy, but it must give Leica a lot of pause for thought to share the L-mount license with a rival lens manufacturer. Maybe it will give Leica a bit of a reality check on their pricing. Leica L mount lenses have some real rip offs in the ranks, such as that crap kit zoom for the TL and even the 23mm F2 which is a nice lens but it's just an APS-C Panasonic / Sigma jobby basically, with a Leica badge. Leica need to get real there and unless it is hand made in Germany, a modern full frame or APS-C L mount lens should not cost the same as an M mount lens. I am sure internally at Leica not everyone is singing from the same hymn sheet in agreement over the alliance. First shot across the bow... Disable Sigma's Canon adapter. Bam. Hopefully this is not the case, but even if it is politics, I have a feeling they will dress it up sweetly as a little technological hurdle maid. Oh dear it doesn't work, sorry about that, but we have a lovely £4000 50mm to sell you instead. Maybe that Novoflex adapter was an experiment by the Germans... How shit can we make this adapter perform with Canon glass and what impact does even this shit adapter have on our native lens sales? Problem for Panasonic and the alliance is that a good Canon EF adapter exists on a Sony body. Sony don't seem to mind, and their native lens sales are fine. So is Leica just paranoid? Time will tell. In the meantime they have lost two sales or at least delayed two sales of Sigma's little adapter!! But not gained any Leica L-mount lens sales! What a great achievement! Besides Sigma have a range of those coming out!

I am no clearer whether I should buy it or not! May as well continue using my manual focus stuff until they can tell us what the heck they are playing at.

Let's hope they don't revolutionise editing too much. FCPX magnetic timeline anyone?

Good to hear. Is the 120fps 10bit or 8bit in H.265?

Did somebody just say Anamorphic Mode?

Anything's possible, let's see how it progresses. Still early days yet but I have Magic Lantern up and running on my M50 with a few modules... no RAW video module yet but should only be a matter of time now!

Does anyone have the full version of this post? Or is that it? What are the max frame rates on the full frame cameras? Seriously impressive stuff and the Micro Four Thirds version shipping already is a total bargain for $1999. 4K 120fps 10bit ProRes!!

B&H say the MC-21 is compatible with the Leica SL https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1463159-REG/sigma_sigma_mc_21_mount_converter_lens.html

I already said it first a day ago and again now. I also said it in the review. Set C3 with 4K & Canon LOG, hit record. But it won't maintain the mode you are in at that moment for stills... it will go to whatever mode you saved to the C3 preset. Canon messed the usability up of the one simple thing that people liked about their DSLRs... A simple stills/movie mode lever and movie exposure following exactly what is selected for stills and on the mode dial. The Sigma is sharper wide open but the FD 1.2 holds its own stopped down, especially colour and contrast... And of course wide open it has the wonder F1.2 look, remaining sharper than the less expensive FD lenses at F1.4.

Say hello to the Fotomax people for me. They helped me out with some real gems of c-mount lenses last time I was in Berlin.

In what context is 4K irrelevant in 2019? If you have a paid job and the client requests it to be shot in 4K, it's irrelevant? If you're an artist and want to future-proof your work so that it looks good on future large format display technologies in the home, it's irrelevant? If you're an enthusiast and you don't want the compromises to the image from pixel binning, with moire and aliasing in a soft 1080p image, are you really suggesting their concerns and needs are completely irrelevant, regardless of whether they need 4K resolution or will deliver in 4K resolution, that need for a cleaner image is irrelevant? Predetermined video settings on C3 triggered on movie record button is not the same as jumping into video mode from your stills mode and keeping same exposure and stills shooting mode for the recording, for all the reasons I explained in prior posts. Fact of the matter is you cannot even select Canon LOG in the menus when in stills mode. So let's suggest we are in Aperture priority mode for photos... And you want to record a 4K clip with Canon LOG... Only way to do that is to assign preset video settings to C3 and assign that mode to the record button. It will override whatever stills exposure mode you are in and might not match your intentions. It's shiiiiiit. I agree with you on a lot else but you don't have talk a lot of crap sometimes Mattias when it comes to video.

Is the MC-21 shipping yet? Panasonic told me it was on a few retailers already. I better have a look. I've spotted a used CL for £1500. I will pass on it for now, but just thought you'd like you know... It's at WEX!

Yup. There are two cockwombles involved here. One is Gannon at DPReview who wrote the original news article the other is whoever wrote that rumours headline because nowhere in the PDF or Leica info does it mention the MC-21 adapter!! I am trying to clarify things with Panasonic and will see what the real story is here. Confusion reigns supreme!

Magic Lantern on the M50 is real by the way.

Hype, much? It's a grip, and quite a normal one. Nothing outstanding. Other mirrorless cameras have more comfortable or larger ones, and sometimes both at the same time. Nothing about the EOS R grip is special or amazing. Flip screen outstanding? What's different about it vs the GH5's screen? Lens control ring is useless fly by wire setting roulette / wheel of fortune and totally out of place on professional lenses. There's only three. Screen / menus / control ring. Have we forgotten something more important... Hmm, let's see.... Full frame no crop 4K perhaps. How about a sensor that is this year's technology not 2014's.... Maybe an IBIS system of some sort like all the competition has already... X-H1 (Fuji), Z6 (Nikon), A7 III (Sony), GH5 (Panasonic), E-M1 II / X (Olympus) but oh no, not Canon! Because they are unique and special and wonderful all on their own island (Hawaii) Says hates mode dials... Says how much like modes. Not only no thumb wheel but no jog wheel either. 2009's 5D Mark II is laughing at you. Ah the vertical grip for portrait aspect ratio shoots, always a useful filmmaking tool!

DOH!! Why didn't Sigma mention that the Leica cameras would get compatibility before launch via firmware, if that's the case? We could have done with knowing. Panasonic in the UK have even been in touch with Japan to ask WTF is going on.

Can you tell me how to go to EOSHD.com ? I have never heard of that site.

Magic Lantern have hacked the Canon M50 today, in a surprise move, since it was previously thought Canon had blocked the M50 from loading any scripts. Features of the first version of Magic Lantern for the M50 dubbed "Hello World" include 6K RAW video (using pixel binning) and animated wallpapers. Read the full article

You were both a big fan of the R until now, bit of a u-turn if you ask me. Maybe get your facts right in future before advocating for one thing over the other?! It is true the 50mm F1.2L has grown in size at every generation. FD was smallest EF grew fat R is just ridiculous. And funnily enough the FD is my favourite for image quality and sharper than the EF version! That post frame on youtube really does sum it up. Awful cheap de-pad feel and too small. Stupid lack of dual card slots. Weird on/off dial in weird place wasting space on top of camera. And don't get me started on the m'fucking bar or complete lack of mode dial.

Yeah you don't pay close attention, that much is evident. Big grinding heavy element moving around and you don't notice?! Customers like you are the reason Canon wins and innovation fails every time. The focus on that one is even worse. It has the cheapest possible moving front element in some kind of plastic that extends very far outwards especially when macro focussing, prone to wobbly and damage. It makes the cheaper Canon EF 35mm F2.0 IS look positively space age. That does have internal focus, whereas Canon didn't think to add it on a mirrorless camera lens where it's most needed.

It's greyed out in the menus in stills mode. The only way to enable it is to assign a custom movie mode to C3 movie mode and then assign C3 to the record button. So you cannot shoot in 4K Canon LOG, in the same stills mode you are using for stills, unless it matches what you previously assigned to C3 movie mode. Do you really think this is ergonomic? There were people who used to shoot 720p in the 1080p era for various reasons (60p for example) and I certainly don't begrudge you your preferences, it's a personal matter... Right tool for your job is clearly 1080.... But you're kinda implying 4K isn't relevant in 2019 which is a bit tin-eared... the vast majority of us are interested in the highest possible cinematic image quality and resolution, and want to take advantage of technology. No rolling shutter? In 1080p it's still there and in 4K it's amongst worst on the market. Another FHD shooter. Not too demanding on the technology are you? KR's review can go to hell. The external movement is on the front element, reassessed in the barrel and exposed to dirt. My lens is brand new from Amazon. It is noisy. It is not internal focus. It is basically dated technology on the mechanical side and just not worth the £2200 it cost me. It's going back. Just to ensure you don't think I am doing an April fools Proof enough?

Several problems there. Stills mode is full frame, you cannot accurately frame for 4K video in stills mode, unless you cripple stills mode to a low resolution APS-C mode. Canon LOG is unavailable when shooting video with the record button in a stills mode. A work-around is to set the record button up to trigger custom movie mode C3, but these preset settings may differ to the stills mode you're using in the moment. I have my C3 movie mode set up in Aperture priority but if I am in manual stills mode, bye bye exposure when I hit record (and a completely different FOV). Visa versa, C3 set to manual, what if I want aperture priority mode for both stills and video? I have to deep dive the menus and reset all my C3 settings? It's ABSURD. Switching to fully fledged video mode is a sub-menu job and if you don't assign your preferred video mode to C3, the record button in stills mode will shoot movies without Canon LOG. Compared to established non-crippled usability standards on the competition this is ridiculously bad. Dave Maze's cracked in first few weeks. It's delicate non-reinforced cheap plastic. It is not internal focus. I have the lens. You don't. If you had even even used one, you'll see (and hear) the grinding, heavy front element moving significantly forth and back as it focuses and you can even feel the weight of the glass shifting forward and backwards as you go about shooting. The lens is on loan and is going back, by the way. I have no interest in keeping it. So you're saying it's good for an extremely limited range of filmmaking then. It does have warping... all sorts of motion artefacts in fact. I also find that EIS can get confused by motion in the scene and move the entire frame according to a moving object in the shot! You will see how superior the E-M1X is when I review it this week sir.

Similar architecture to the Sony-Fuji 100MP medium format sensor? Personally I don't need 100MP stills but the technology is interesting as is all forward progress, it leads to an interesting future and is better than staying the same, otherwise we'd all be shooting 720p and 8MP stills

I agree that it's not always helpful to get hung up on specs and that ease of use, reliability, feel, ergonomics are more important. Here's my opinion: the EOS R is a dog in this regard. It's not easy to use, it's not reliable and it's not got good ergonomics at all. The crop harms usability because all your videos end up looking different to stills, or you have to use a zoom to compensate for the different FOV, or step backwards yards and completely re-frame. So if you're doing a video/stills hybrid shoot, it's a poor choice. The rolling shutter is a problem for anything that isn't a static subject. Lack of effective 5 axis IBIS hurts it for hand-held video work and the digital version warps and crops even further, on top of more distortion from rolling shutter it is not very natural or organic. Reliability - that top LCD is a serious weak spot. Cracks very easily. The lenses have externally moving elements for focus on the most part - even the expensive 50mm F1.2L R. Dated and noisy, and weather sealing isn't up to professional standards. Switching quickly between video and stills mode is a fiddly chore and Dual Pixel AF is no longer the best especially with the 35mm F1.8 R and 50mm F1.2L R and their grinding moving front elements. Needs lenses with internal focus to work at its best and quietest, which it rarely does. Yes, the image in C-LOG is nice, colour science is good, as is white balance and the codec. Like you I prefer to have an image with no excess digital sharpening and don't mind soft, cinematic 4K that doesn't fatigue your eye when the picture moves. It doesn't lack for detail unless you're a pixel peeper using a chart and not watching the film or content. So the image isn't so much the problem - the rest is. But the E-M1X is a far superior hybrid camera.

Still external, still crap ergonomics with a recorder, still a wobbly HDMI cable. I want INTERNAL raw recording.