Andrew Reid

FS5 with that elusive electronic ND filter even more so. I can't believe that hasn't made its way into many, many more cameras yet. The conclusion is indeed that Sony and Panasonic hate us.

What a gem Your next shoot... (23:33 if it doesn't queue at right spot)

Yes I agree with that, but this is the current traditional way of looking at image generation as a raw product of sensor and lens. In the future, the sensor and lens will be merely there to set the template to embellish from. They will capture the reality - with a deep DOF and a lot of detail, in a clinical form - and the "final render"will be done with software. Would you like a Noctilux at F1.0? Tap it Of course this opens up the hellscape of lenses being seen as subscriptions and online services. But I wouldn't design it like this - I would have them all built in as a one-time purchase with the hardware, with subsequent style transfers added in firmware updates throughout the life of the camera. EF? Sure, not RF though - which is what you need for the optimal performance on a current Canon mirrorless system. Then the cost goes up very significantly. And so does the weight. With my camera design, all of that is irrelevant and the annoying need to remove a prime and attach a zoom during a shoot, also dies a death. You're talking about today's market, yes? I'm pointing to what the next market should be. That is if any of the manufacturers are brave enough to start... Which currently, they are not. It will take someone with far less skin in the existing game to come along to get the ball rolling.

Love them. Not enough good ones around for full frame though.

The Light camera was a good example of the concept done badly. It needs to be done in such a way that the traditional camera experience, with viewfinder and camera menus (NOT ANDROID) is preserved entirely. All that changes outwardly is that the full frame sensor becomes 3 small ones with 3 modules (12mm, 24mm, 85mm), and AI does the rest. No more lenses. It would look like a normal Sony a1 with a pancake lens on the front.

Isn't it time we saw the writing on the wall and got rid of our trad. optics and full frame sensors? https://www.eoshd.com/news/the-future-of-cameras-is-not-full-frame/ I really do believe it is outdated. It isn't needed to have such a large sensor or physically heavy big lenses any more. The physical side of the camera and the advanced controls need to stay. So how about we merge mirrorless with the smartphone camera world, at a very high level? And we are the perfect people for the camera industry to consult on this... Come on Japan let's work together and make it happen.

Add it to the bag with the EVF... You know you want it!

I still have my S1H and am always pleasantly surprised by how well the image holds up vs the latest and greatest stuff (Z9, A1, etc.) i.e. it has a better image entirely... especially in low light... Just not the same super fast sensor readout. I think the OLPF helps give it a more natural look too. Definitely an internal ND is needed and phase-detect AF in the S1H Mark II, but I hope to see eND not a mechanical one. FS5 is how long ago now?! Call me insane but I'd like to see a "True RAW" 2.8K Cinema DNG full frame mode with option for light 3:1 compression, without that smooth processed look of ProRes RAW. Today's RAW codecs look too similar to H.265.... Or maybe HEVC has improved a lot?! It would be nice to get the size and weight down to Sony a1 level. Stacked sensor for that nice 4K/120fps... maybe 2.8K at 240fps? Not too bothered about 8K... I am sure Pana are in a dilemma about that too.

Get it, really is a fun little beast with an image that is truly unprocessed sensor RAW in the cinema sense, not the faux-RAW that's taken over. If you can find an Fp-L that's even better... same 60mp sensor as a Leica SL3 or A7R V for quarter of the price. It's capable of some nice oversampling whereas the original Fp pixel bins. And has phase-detect AF.

The S1H still has a better image though. Especially in low light. The overheating issues are not the big problem this time, rather the price and lens mount is.

Panasonic have their own Super 35mm 6K sensor but it's not the organic one. https://na.industrial.panasonic.com/products/sensors/optical-photoelectric-sensors/lineup/image-sensors/series/71626/model/76817 They also manufactured the GH1/GH2 chip I believe before moving to Sony with the GH3. Now Sony's manufacturing capabilities are so far ahead that it doesn't really make sense not to use their manufacturing process, and you can still design your own chip and spec it to a high degree. With the sensor in the Alexa 35 being made by Onsemi, exceeding the spec of the proposed Panasonic organic sensor, it would make more sense to work with Omsemi if they were not to go Sony like everyone else, rather than continue to develop their own totally different tech. I could be wrong - let's see.

Yes over 4 and 5 years, that points to something quite wrong doesn't it? Is Pana soft quitting on us? I sincerely hope not. Also you will notice the SL3 has also quite an old off the shelf Sony sensor, same as A7R IV and Sigma Fp-L. Certainly nothing as cutting edge as a Z6 or A1. Where's the L2 partnership going exactly? Into the old parts bins for cheap?

It is close to perfect and the image still stands up today as one of the best you can possibly get. But it would be nice to have even a small update, like: Less heavy, a bit smaller Phase-detect AF In-camera LUT feature Stacked sensor for 4K/120p

The S1H Mark II, and the other new S1 cameras should be here by now. Interestingly the Leica SL3 has arrived already. This is a camera that is engineered by Panasonic with Leica, and very much Panasonic in terms of electronics and firmware. The S1R Mark II has not come along with it. Instead Panasonic have given us two lower-end cameras, the S5 Mark II and S9. EOSHD looks at what's going on in Osaka. Read the full blog post: https://www.eoshd.com/news/is-panasonic-rethinking-high-end-full-frame-mirrorless-line-up-the-missing-cameras-of-2023-24/

Between the R5 and S1H, the Panasonic is the better choice for low light. I also rate the Nikon Z6 quite highly for the price, and the good old A7 III. At higher end of budget then the Sony a7s III and Fuji X-H2S come to mind.

DPR are in the business of writing advertising copy now and had been going in that direction for a long, long time. Rarely do they have a bad word to say about anything.

Best off hacking the Samsung NX1 which is fully Linux. I still have the source code for that if anyone is interested

RED have multiple different OLPF, for example the softer Skintone filter. But at the end of the day it doesn't matter, as the best filter is the lens.

Have you considered the AI Bot sub-forum?

#Copyright Panasonic Corporation 2019

Indeed, it'll be stuff like Java won't it? The actual firmware is closed.

They could also use a much slimmer bezel on an OLED display, like the Xperia 1 series phones, with square edges, which would eliminate the massive chin on the current camera LCDs.

There is a chance to go past 3" screens on the larger mirrorless cameras. All they need to do is reposition the joystick and get rid of the large jog wheel. Then the buttons below the screen can be screen icons as touch screens work better 5" rather than 3. When the screen is flipped out, it won't be any heavier as we'd use an OLED panel and titanium frame. At any rate it would definitely still be much lighter than a smartphone as it is just the panel, no internals like battery. So it shouldn't unbalance the camera when in use, and I'd prefer it to flip out rather than twizzle out anyway. Why haven't we gone past 3" do you think? Lack of demand, cost, or something else?

8K via YouTube won't look true. It will have been manipulated by your display for a start, downscaled to fit. Compressed to hell. Any sharpness in the original image will look worse. I miss the days when people were a bit more savvy about pixel peeping. Downloading the original files from Vimeo... Looking for signs of aliasing. And in-camera colour science was more important prior to the everything being shot in LOG format.

Something tells me the R1 is not the last 1 series EOS R camera to come... https://www.eoshd.com/news/hint-wait-for-the-canon-eos-r1x/ After all, back in the day they did split the 1D and 1DS didn't they?