Andrew Reid

Eventually a fork becomes a spork. Convergence Development of the fork forks off.

OK Matt I will delete your account. Sounds like you need a break. Thanks for all your contributions and best of luck with your work in 2015. If you feel like re-joining again in the future, feel welcome to. Cheers - Andrew

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​Haha I can see the temptation already. All the criticisms still stand from my review here, I better re-read it to remind myself of the monster I'm dealing with here. Horrible ergonomics for video!! http://www.eoshd.com/2013/04/the-canon-1d-c-review/ But I've always loved the image...ahh. I can stick two 256GB cards in there to give me 2 hours recording time, then convert the footage over night to ProRes LT to make it more fluid to edit and smaller to archive (300Mbit compared to 500Mbit) The NX1 & GH4 can be a good B-cameras to it... stick the Cookes on them and let them roll for hours in H.265 / H.264 when I really need to shoot excessive amounts of extra b-roll 4K material. The 1D C makes a good A-camera because it has the dynamic range with C-LOG, the 422 internal, 1.3x crop, better low light. The A7S with Shogun is amazing but I wanted that image internally. Sometimes I can't shoot with the Shogun due to rigging reasons, or reasons of stealth or reasons of the bloody Berlin weather wondo, when it's raining all the time But really it was the 'new lower price' and the thought of replacing my 5D Mark III that made it more palatable as a £3200 upgrade. I will have to sell some gear now to fill the hole in my accounts!! Anyone want a D750!?

Flatter doesn't always = nicer tonality especially in an 8bit codec and skin has a lot of gentle variation in tone. Better to have a steeper curve and contrast to bring out the colour. Otherwise it can go a bit muddy and weird. CineV with the black levels brought up is great. CineD is a bit weird for my tastes.

One last thought... NX1, GH4 and A7S (4K alternatives to the 1D C) are £1299 and £1899 respectively. Amazing value considering this kind of performance was £10,000 2 years ago!!

Surely better to spend the extra and get the Pentax 645Z. Anyway, I need this for video. I love the image, and A7S + Shogun I am finding not quite ideal for the kind of work I will do in 2015, need something weather sealed. Otherwise very nice though!

My FS7 review is coming in January if I fit it in. Disclaimer...Sony are lending me one! Why? Because I'm skint now!

In my GH4 book two of the three EOSHD profiles are CineLikeV based not CineLikeD They deliver the best skintones. The CineLikeD one is a reserve one for when you want to sacrifice colour accuracy to save a shot, one that needs the most possible dynamic range, or for a shot that needs grading more than usual. So for those who think CineLikeD gives strange skin tones (well, it's designed to be graded...) try the other two.

If you've touched a nerve with your conspiracy theory it isn't because it holds any water, it's purely for the fact that it's bloody annoying! So what shall I do? If I defend myself then that worries you and if I don't it is a deflection!? What am I hiding exactly!? Can't win! OK I admit it. Canon are plying me with whisky and gin, in sheer desperation to stop me from insulting their cameras! Sony are paying for all the A7S coverage and sending me to the moon to shoot under GENUINE MOON LIGHT. Atomos are renting out the Sydney Opera house for my Shogun workshop and Panasonic are flying me to Japan for an all expenses paid trip to film the Cat Cafe in 4K. SOO CUTE!

FYI - There's another one on eBay (in the UK) for £4899 with two batteries here. The 1D C is a camera that has been the source of both great wonder and bafflement for me since it was released but it is time to bring it into the EOSHD family and shoot with it! Read the full article here

Max. Color is subjective. Do what the hell you like. The A6000 looks absolutely dreadful in your video and you're saying the GH4 is off? Looks fine to me. Again I won't be drawn into taking the blame for profiles or colour-paths you happen to take a dislike to, when it's purely your subjective taste at play. Bye!

That post is a real shame. I've given you a platform to put yourself on as a filmmaker to the tune of 1031 posts and counting, thousands of people have noticed you on the forum because you're a regular poster. I don't feel the need to defend myself here. I do however feel it is time Matt that you moved onto some more constructive posting.

​Nope, quite a few months of work went into those profiles and both James and I know our stuff. Less with the negative tone Matt, thanks.

I haven't seen this kind of compression in my NX1 120fps yet! What software did you use to do the conversion?

​Unfortunately it isn't 1.3x With the BMPC glass I kind of hacked into the prototype adapter, the sensor became 1.3x in 1080p and 1.5x in 4K if I remember correctly! However I had issues with edge sharpness and even one half of the image softer than the other... not really usable, and it didn't clear the shutter mechanism, so not safe for release as a product. The official Speed Booster for the GH4 is currently 1.5x in 1080p and 1.7x in 4K. Still nice though!

My income to buy the 1D C came from a mixture of paid projects and EOSHD revenue but definitely wasn't a light decision to take! I do however see it as an investment back into the blog to keep the quality of content to the highest level. I love my blog in that it allows me as an artist to put the time into my own filmmaking on my own terms without having to chase commercial work for every waking hour!! It's very valuable to me and I am very lucky but it is also a MASSIVE amount of work to keep it going. It's always on my mind, never quite drops into the background!

When I deduct the £1800 used value I can get for my 5D Mark III the 1D C is a £3200 upgrade. I couldn't resist that. It's going to be very interesting to see how it stacks up against the A7S + Shogun. Actually I wish the Shogun was a little smaller. DP4 might be a good monitoring option for the 1D C, since I now have the 4K internal.

The timeline of doom is why I am so reluctant to invest more than £3k in a camera with £5k being my current absolute stretch because of depreciation. It's a bit like being one of those early adopters of high end 4K TVs when they were £20k and now they are £2k! At least if the GH4 halves in price you've only lost £700. Canon's gear does tend to hold its value well and the 1D C is a bit of a rarity, very few come up used. I'm surprised the first ones used I've seen have gone for £5k, I think they can get more than that. I also think there comes a point where the revolutions are going to be less satisfying. Even if we get 8K next, will we need it? Many don't even need 4K. And global shutter is surely going to be commonplace in future but rolling shutter has rarely bothered me because of my style of shooting. To go significantly better than the 1D C we'd be looking at 8K, global shutter, 10bit codec, in manageable file sizes and improvements to the bare bones ergonomics for video. Being based on the stills line, the 1D C Mark II likely won't get such a big bump in spec or video-orientated ergonomics and it might even be 4 years away. The A7S II with IBIS, 4K internal, etc. would be very nice and certainly offer a compelling alternative but it doesn't exist yet and is also likely some years off yet. I am going to have to try very hard to resist the temptation to justify my purchase... 5 bloody grand... when it comes to shooting & testing with the 1D C on EOSHD in the coming days, try to be impartial. It's very difficult. I'm mega excited about it. For £5k used it is much more attractive and that is much closer to the price it should have been from the start. Canon really did a bad thing putting all the exciting tech into inaccessible gear and serving up reheated cold turkey for the prosumer video market.

What the Apple guy's referring to is the capacity for innovation at Apple when you have a less general-concensous based way of designing products. Ask people what they want sometimes is not the right thing to do. Giving them something they didn't expect is more innovative and in the long run can be more profitable too.

It's definitely not as good value for money at £7k new as the FS7. It's not as good value as the NX1 or GH4 if you just want 4K. My reasoning was... £4999 was a good price so hard to turn down, compared to the £10,000 it was new just a few months ago, and it will replace quite a few of my stills cameras, especially the 5D Mark III so can use it for that quite long term, and it would be a great benchmark for a lot of other 4K cameras and the A7S with Shogun. Plus sometimes it is nice to use a camera just bare bones without the recorder especially in bad weather, the Shogun isn't weather sealed. NX1 is good for this too but you need to transcode and keep it under ISO 1600, plus I have such a lot of Canon glass I can't control the aperture properly on it with. Part of me thinks I should have just got an FS7!! But I do love the 1D C's image and stills.

Ah well spotted. Nice camera, but LX100 is far better specced.

As a twist of fate would have it, found a used 1D C for £4999 and it arrives Tuesday. C U next Tuesday 1D C Now we will see what it's really made of vs the A7S and Shogun.

Fuji X30 I think. Small compact.

OK, this is the last time I take the bait and wade into 1D C la la land again. Then the discussion has to go back to the Shogun. Remember, the NX1 and GH4 are also in the mix here with the Shogun and 4K ProRes. This is the article Doug is moaning about http://www.eoshd.com/2014/07/25-ways-sony-a7s-trumps-canon-1d-c/ As far as I can see, he hasn't got an argument about the facts in the article, just a lot of hot air. To summerise: A7S is full frame. 1D C is a 1.3x crop. You lose the edges of your full frame lenses and go outside the edges of your APS-C lenses. Not much of an advantage is that. A7S is better in low light. I can expose a clean image at 25,600 and get usable results way beyond. 1D C is ok at 6400 but noisy at 12,800. Codec - A7S goes to ProRes for 4K. With the 1D C you are stuck to MJPEG, which isn't as efficient. Granted it is internal though, so call it a draw on that one for 4K. The internal 1080p codec & quality is better on the A7S. The 1D C only does acceptably high quality 1080p out of the HDMI port, and even then it is an APS-C crop, not full frame. If you need 30p the A7S does it in 4K. 1D C does not. Shogun SSD media cheaper for 4K recording than buying tons of big fast compact flash cards for MJPEG 4K on the 1D C. Then to round it out, A7S does not need sending to service centre for firmware update. Price difference. Mirrorless lens mount. EVF. Smaller, lighter, silent shutter for stills (12MP raws). PL lens compatibility. On the 1D C side, you have internal 4K recording so handy for without a recorder, but thing is you need the screen, because the live-view functionality and focus aids are all stills based on the 1D C and useless for shooting video. Not so on the A7S. I can't see the problem with the logic here. 1D C has a lovely image. It's a better stills camera. It has internal 4K. It's more robustly built and looks more professional. It has a native Canon mount for those who use a lot of EF lenses. But it doesn't have much else over the A7S considering the $8000-10,000 or so price difference.