Andrew Reid

EOSHD thread for all things Atomos Shogun related. My hands-on part 1 is available here - http://www.eoshd.com/2014/12/atomos-shogun-review-part-1/

Some like the Olympus 12mm F2.0 have a mechanical mode, you pull back the focus ring to engage the gears. A linear focus travel is something mirrorless manufacturers really need to start giving us, as a menu option. And on future high end lenses they should also consider a switch which engages hard stops when in linear focus travel mode. The current non-linear fly by wire system that's become so common is total nonsense really. Should never have been designed that way.

Well hell has officially frozen over and Fuji have full manual control in video mode along with 24p. You can download the V3.0 firmware for the X-T1 and X-T1 Chrome edition here. It adds a lot of improvements. Read the original article - http://www.eoshd.com/2014/12/fuji-x-t1-version-3-0-firmware-now-available-24p-video-mode-full-frame-speed-booster-ultra/

This is the place to gather ideas for shooting. Gain inspiration here to go out and use all this great gear we have, and don't forget to post your results. General discussion of the filmmaking world is also allowed here - favourite directors, writers, etc.

I'm moving the screening room to a pinned thread. Let's see what you've got! To show your work and footage, you can embed clips directly into posts, simply by copy-pasting the Vimeo or YouTube URL into you text.

The gallery has now been scrapped and you can simply insert your images onto a normal post or topic. To upload just drag the image file onto the editor bar where the paperclip icon is, or click 'choose files...'

I am going to do a full comparison of it vs the Heliopan, which is the current best performing one. So far I am very impressed. Love the hard stops, it is sharp and doesn't seem to have any colour shift. But as I've only shot with it once (in Lisbon) will need to do a more scientific test before I can bring you any further opinions. Anyone else got one? Feel free to chime in!

  Exactly! Real world shooting experience tells us a lot more!

I compared the 5D's colour in H.264 out of the box to what it does in raw with Magic Lantern and there's a huge difference. Nice sensor, rubbish codec and image processor. It's a myth you can get such nice colour from the 5D Mark III, without resorting to the large file sizes of raw, often impractical. The Cinema EOS cameras do have decent colour out of the box.   The NX1 has decent colour out of the box AND small file sizes.   The GH4 and A7S sacrifice colour a little bit on the altar of dynamic range but they can still look lovely in the right hands.

  Download the 4K original here NX1 is in stock at B&H ($1499) The light in Berlin is dreary during winter, so I took the NX1 off for a break in the Portuguese city of Lisbon last week. This place has the best weather in Europe and the best light. A magical place. It gave me a perfect chance to get under the skin of the NX1 - and see just what it can do in the real world. Read the full article here

Will fix this. Cheers.

  You don't get it. It's a second option, creatively. You can use it in really creative ways. Even if you're doing basic stuff like an interview, to break up a long boring clip of someone talking with a punched-in close up and a wide shot in post is super helpful, it means you can just let them talk and talk when you're shooting, no break in coverage whilst you reframe for the close-up. The timing of the reframing is in post as well, so makes planning the shoot a lot more straight forward. Don't knock it until you've tried it.   Also what I am about to post from the NX1 will blow the C100 Mark II away for image quality. You will see :)

Digital Bolex if you need a wide colour gamut. It is unmatched. CCD sensor so analogue feel to colour, very much like film.   However if raw isn't your thing then the A7S in SLOG 2 comes a lot closer than the C100, especially to the Atomos Shogun in 4K. It's just a much larger pathway between sensor and card. More colour data in there. And if you scale to 1080p in your edit (which is trivial to do by the way) you have 4:4:4 luma. GH4 is also an option... will give you 10bit to the Atomos Ninja Star. It's the cheaper option compared to A7S + Shogun for sure.

Just emailed out some missing guides where people didn't receive the email from the EOSHD cranky server.   Anyone I've missed? Let me know...

Will look into it guys. Just me here, so bear with me!

  OK own up! What department of marketing do you work for at Canon USA? Best in the industry? Try telling that to Alexa, F65, Dragon users delivering high def 1080p for broadcast. Exactly what the C100 II is designed to do, but not as well.

  The colours are nothing unique, you can get the same look on other cameras, in particular the NX1 in 4K is very Canon-like. The A7S just needs the right grading when it comes to S-LOG, as would the C100 in LOG, though clipping of bright blues can be an issue. The GH4 is giving us 10bit out of HDMI. Something to consider for VFX heavy shoots. The best colour of all though, comes not from the C100 II but from raw. Blackmagic, Digital Bolex, Magic Lantern and F5 / FS700 to Shogun.   Low light performance is eclipsed by the A7S.   Super 35mm - indeed, but no PL option on the C100 II so you are pretty much stuck with shooting through the centre of full frame lenses. EFS lenses are a bit crappy compared to PL cinema stuff aren't they!   The ergonomics are overrated. It is nice handheld with the articulated screen & IS on the lens. But then, so are other options.   It's a solid option. A work-a-day kinda tool. I dislike the lack of innovation really and there's nothing 'special' or unique about the image it produces. Trust me there isn't.

  4K is the future. 5K display already on an iMac. Can't tell the difference? I don't think so. C100 II will be obsolete in a year and you will have to sell it and get the C100 III with 4K. Also it makes no sense to spend $5k on one when you can get an FS7 for $3k more which is 3x more future proof - 4K, slow-mo, 10bit output. Personally I need 180fps 1080p of the FS7. Even if you don't, then I fail to see what the C100 II offers over the FS7. If you are laying down that much money for a camera, the stretch to the FS7 isn't a huge problem. Unless you can barely afford or justify the C100 II, in which case you shouldn't really be spending $5k on a camera in the first place. For the commercial shooters these cameras are aimed at, $5k or $8k - doesn't matter, the camera will pay for itself. For everybody else, stick to $3k and avoid the nasty depreciation of pro gear. That's my advice. Invest in lenses and ideas instead.   Now let's speak artistically... Canon's EF lenses are designed for full frame. They are wasted on a Super 35mm sensor. It is only the A7S which gives you such good video from a 4K full frame sensor, at half the price of the C100 II. So artistically, A7S would be my choice over the C100 II. The rendering of the corners, look of the lenses, field of view, and in particular the look of a fast F1.4 aperture at 24mm wide angle is something you simply can't get on the C100 II. You can however get it on an FS7 thanks to Speed Booster.   I don't care about built in ND filters. How many variable ND filters can I buy for the $2500 I save by using the A7S!? Whats more I can adjust exposure much more precisely with a variable one. On the C100 II I still have to adjust the aperture, can't always shoot at F1.4 & 180 deg shutter.   The ergonomics are overrated. EVF is still shoddy compared to the Fuji X-T1 for instance. The shutter dial is too small and in the wrong place. Rather stick to controlling aperture mechanically on my Contax Zeiss or Nikon AI lenses.   Your opinions may differ. Just be aware that they're flawed ;)

  Well put it this way, I'd be disappointed if it didn't do that for $5k. Haha.

"Better resolution" froess. Can only laugh at that. You must be completely blind to say the 1080p on the C100 Mark II has better resolution than the NX1 internal 4K.

If you're shooting raw with Magic Lantern check out the used price of the 5D Mark II, it's a bargain especially with the VAF anti-aliasing filter.   Then stick a cheap fast prime on it.   If that is out of your budget then yeah the G6 is a nice choice, but you'd need to invest a lot more in lenses to get it to look as good as the 5D

Glad you got the FS7.   The more people keep buying the old 1080p stuff from Canon the more they are going to keep the 4K stuff in the vault and coast along. They can sell us a $5k 1080p camera and then also a $8k 4K camera at some point in 2015. Such profit. Please people stop buying dated equipment and reward the innovators like Sony...

It's news to me that the C100 Mark II's image competes with the full frame A7S 4K output, or the 10bit 4K GH4 output or the NX1's 4K output oversampled from a 6.5K sensor output.   "DSLR killer" it isn't.

  Yes shot tons of it.