Andrew Reid

Thanks for your comments.   Looking at the balance sheets all the signs are that it is Sony who are closer to elimination than Red or BMCC at the moment. Sad but true I'm afraid. And why would they pool their resources? They're competitors. There's enough room for plenty of competition, but first you have to enter the game. They haven't yet got an answer to the BMCC at $3000.     Why is it disingenuous? Sorry I don't understand. Resolve is free with the camera and is of industry leading calibre. Their standard of software is key to this whole thing. Canon or Panasonic literally don't have the people, IP or market share to offer the same thing with their cameras. DaVinci Resolve was a large part of my decision to order the camera. It is amazing for my work.     I can assure you 2.5" SSD is going nowhere. First they are a PC industry standard and fresh on the market. They're not a camera standard. It will likely take 10 years for the desktop PC industry to use denser media. How long have 3.5" hard drives been around? 25 years? The need for smaller drives is relevant for tablets, surface PCs and laptops but not for desktops and they will be with us for a while yet. When the denser SSD media does arrive, it will likely be adaptable to the SATA interface, just smaller. Therefore, with a simple adapter plate it will still be usable in the camera. By the time this happens, we'll likely be on the Blackmagic Cinema Camera Pro Mark IV!     Yes a 3 year shelf life is enough for many, remember this is a version 1.0 product but this is so unlikely to be an issue anyway. I've seen iPhone touch screens which work flawlessly with smashed glass!. They don't degrade with physical wear, they are long lasting components and a mature technology so I don't see it as a risk. The usability of that screen is superb, so quick to use and so little do you need to be fiddling with the menus on this camera, it really is a case of minimalism and it allows you to just get on with the shoot. FS100 is far worse ergonomically. You need fewer physical controls on a raw camera than for an 8bit camcorder or a DSLR. ISO for example is almost redundant, as is picture profile - because all that stuff is done in post. The shutter angle is also pretty much always on 180 degrees for most shoots. The menus are really to set up the monitor or the recording format.     It is larger than S16mm and S16mm has been around for 40 years! Major motion pictures ("Moonrise Kingdom") this year shot on it.   Saying certain sensor sizes will go obsolete is like saying the colour blue may begin to disappear from the artist's palette and get superseded by orange. We filmmakers need the choice of aesthetic.   Large sensors are not THE deciding factor of image quality anyway. It is damaging to have so many misconceptions out there because it leads to marketing lead decisions about products rather than focussing on the things which are actually most important. Look at the Sony NEX VG-900. Full frame sensor but it's crap!     Hahahaaaa. I cannot tell you how little I care about end user consumption. There will ALWAYS be a demand for high end viewing experiences and as an artist I want my films to provide for the like-minded. Let these dummies watch their feature films on their crappy phones when they could be watching it in a cinema or a home cinema. C'mon which is the better experience? Squinting at an iPad or iPhone? No thanks. I'll continue to watch mine on the big screen. Totally different experience. And also, given this logic James Cameron should downgrade his camera to suit the iPad screen. Why shoot 4K or 3D?     It is exactly because the big three are so focussed on cash-flow instead of the product that they are failing.   Again, cinematic shooters are who matter to me on EOSHD. I don't really care what the fastest growing segment of consumer whatever is and if that is GoPro / action sports, then good for them. Why would this impact cinema? They co-exist peacefully, room for both. You tend to find that it is trends like slow-mo and timelapse that peak and then settle back to their intended more sparse use, and that the cinematic experience is timeless.   But I appreciate your counterpoints, even if they are quite far off the mark in my opinion sir.

  Atomos is great but DSLRs cannot make full use of it yet. The image isn't good enough. Look at the D800. Slightly less compression but still a limited dynamic range, 8bit banding, aliasing, moire, low res, line skipping. You compare the HDMI output to the internal codec on the hacked GH2. Better internally! This is a DSLR video blog. That is my focus, and until the HDMI image quality gets better, Atomos isn't worthwhile for me. I have an FS100 and will review the Blackmagic Hyperdeck Shuttle next week.

It is not about giving something more zing it is about genuine passion for an image. The C100's image is just not as cinematic. I'm sorry, but you cannot compare it to 12bit raw at 2.5K. Low light ability - at ISO 800 and 1600 the shadows go far deeper and cleaner on the Blackmagic Cinema Camera. Granted your ISO 6400 will be better on the C100. But it is also just as nifty on the FS100 and that is $2500 cheaper, with uncompressed HDMI. It also does 1080/60p whilst the C100 maxes out at 30p. Internal battery is not an advantage. You don't get raw. For raw you need an external battery. Why the hell compromise your image for a BATTERY!? Somehow I don't feel compelled to spend double the price on a C100 for a worse image. No idea why!?? :)

Gene there are specialist uses of a large sensor (confined spaces) as you rightly point out, and slow mo. But unless your whole film is going to be shot inside a car at 240fps, the Blackmagic is the better choice. I mean look at the history of cinema. How much super slow-mo do you see? Is it really that critical? Don't forget Sigma 8mm will be wide enough for the car shot you're trying. Equivalent to around 18mm on full frame.

  Look it really is time to nail this argument down so hard it can never get up again.   By your logic Super 16mm which is a 2.7x crop is also ludicrous. OK but didn't stop The Queen, Black Swan and Moonrise Kingdom being made on it. They're some of the best looking films I've seen in the past 2 years if not THE best looking.   Remind me of the advantages of a full frame sensor. So you can defocus everything apart from a tiny sliver of hair? Oh please... It looks rubbish. This is not cinema. In low light at fast apertures, my 5D Mark III makes focus unmanageable at close distances. You cannot shoot a film this way.   Like I say if a 2.7x crop is good enough for Darren Aronofsky then 2.3x is good enough for you. Super 16mm films have won multiple Oscars throughout history and nobody complained about the lack of shallow DOF or the film stock being ludicrous! Do you realise how silly it sounds?   It isn't even a 2.3x crop factor over the C300. It is a 1.6x crop versus the C300 which is what you are comparing it to, not a photographic camera with a video mode tacked on the back.   Super 35mm - the cinema standard - is not the same as full frame.

  Resolve doesn't yet use two cards in SLI for CUDA I'm afraid.

  True it is all mobile hardware, not desktop like a Mac Pro or a PC.   GTX 680MX is still a nice card though and will run Resolve well enough for basic editing and grading with Blackmagic Cinema Camera footage.

I've heard from Timescapes (Tom Lowe) that 3GB video ram on the card makes a large difference over 1.5GB or 2GB in editing Red Raw with CUDA. Could be a reason some consumer GTX cards are out performed by a Quadro card.   Just make sure you get a 3GB card, 580 or better, will be fine for the Blackmagic Cinema Camera. Budget option is a 560 Ti 1.5GB.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l7KTDHla5k&feature=youtu.be"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l7KTDHla5k&feature=youtu.be[/url]   Video about anamorphic, mentions me! Enjoy.

[url="http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/bmcc-rewo-1.jpg"][img]http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/bmcc-rewo-1-660x439.jpg[/img][/url] Above: ReWo caged Blackmagic Cinema Camera. Review of the cages for the BMCC is coming soon (click image to enlarge) [url="http://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Test/Blackmagic-Cinema-Camera---Teil-3--Die-Schattenseiten-und-unser-Fazit.html"]SlashCAM[/url] here in Berlin have been putting their expertise to work on the Blackmagic Cinema Camera. They also had the opportunity to compare their regular test shots with new shots from the Blackmagic. As you can see in the example after the break, the blacks are far cleaner in post than material shot on the Canon C300. SlashCAM have tested an enormous range of camcorders and cameras over the last 10 years. Here they've tested all the important aspects of the BMCC's performance in detail, such as rolling shutter, dynamic range, etc.

Actually I am not sure, will check.

I've just started turning my PC into a Hackintosh tonight, as fed up with Windows.   It is incredibly easy.   I bought a 120GB SSD boot drive for 69 euros which is latest Sandforce controller and 500MB/s read / write.   I downloaded my copy of Mountain Lion OS X from the App Store on my Mac and made sure the Install file was located in Applications and that I had an SD card formatted to HFS in my USB port.   I went here [url="http://www.macbreaker.com/2012/02/how-to-update-mac-os-x-lion-on-your-pc.html"]http://www.macbreaker.com/2012/02/how-to-update-mac-os-x-lion-on-your-pc.html[/url]   And am following the steps.   Leaving it for now and will report back when finished.   My PC is a Dell XPS 8300 off eBay. These are meant to be well suited as Hackintosh machines. The hardware is all compatible.

This interactive camera is pretty good.   I think Danfung Dennis is working on something similar, no?   [url="http://fstoppers.com/360-degree-panoramic-video-next-big-thing-video?utm_source=&utm_medium=&utm_campaign="]http://fstoppers.com/360-degree-panoramic-video-next-big-thing-video?utm_source=&utm_medium=&utm_campaign=[/url]   Would be interesting to see this used in a run & gun documentary around people, dialogue and a narrative rather than just as a vehicle POV camera.

BMCC is 12-30v. GH2 is more critical and narrow when it comes to voltage and I don't know what professional external batteries can be used with it if any. There are some DIY options I've heard of over the year but I've not tried any of them. At least interchangeable GH2 batteries are very small and light to carry.

Thanks, how does the pricing compare to The Music Bed? http://www.themusicbed.com/#/pricing.php

[quote name='andycorleone' timestamp='1354185665' post='22622'] Andrew, I think you have some facts wrong, Most information I have found reads the F55 can do 4k internally but in order to record RAW you need the external recorder [/quote] You're correct. What I mean is that it does 4K raw 'onboard' not over 3G HD-SDI, so the F55 and R5 raw box is basically one unit. I've corrected the article and made this more clear. The internal codec that comes with the camera brain is 10bit 4K XAVC 4-2-2 at up to 60p. A lot better than the 8bit 1080p 4-2-2 at up to 30p on the C500!

All the signs are that Tim Cook's Apple is becoming like John Sculley's Apple all over again http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikamorphy/2012/10/30/this-is-tim-cooks-apple-a-company-where-mini-steve-gets-the-axe/ And let's not mention IOS 6 maps shall we? I still admire the products but they are becoming more corporate and more numbers driven by the day, in my view.

Pricing of FCP X or the advanced 64bit architecture wasn't the problem for me. It was they they threw the baby out with the bathwater. I think Apple have a guy, possibly Tim Cook who is running a finger through the balance sheets and looking at how much effort they are spending in each area and for how much return. The pro divisions in Apple are not generating as much money as the consumer divisions, that goes without saying. The 17" MacBook Pro got killed because it only amounted to 3% of MacBook sales. Endlos - What about the stories of the Logic team being let go and their pro apps division staff decimated? Not a sign? 17" MB Pro scrapped not a sign? Steve Forstall has gone too! It is clear to me that there's someone very high up at the company who doesn't seem to see the benefit in the cutting edge pro stuff or a flagship model, it all seems to be about capturing as much of the consumer market as possible and focussing all their efforts on that. Why else bring out a smaller iPad, but not a new and much needed Mac Pro?!

[url="http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/switronix-pb70-blackmagic-2.jpg"][img]http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/switronix-pb70-blackmagic-2.jpg[/img][/url] [url="http://www.adorama.com/1/1/164096-switronix-powerbase-70-battery-pack-pb70-bmcc.html?KBID=66885"]You can find the Switronix PB70 for Blackmagic Cinema Camera at Adorama for $299[/url] When the Blackmagic Cinema Camera was announced at NAB many DSLR users were quite concerned by the lack of interchangeable battery and the short 1 hour run time on one charge. In practical reality it is one of the best features.

[quote name='endlos' timestamp='1354194534' post='22628'] "ProRes which has become something of a staple of the film industry despite Apple reversing, bizarrely, away from committing to their pro tools division. " And where is the evidence of that? Your not referring to the tired and outdated arguments against Final Cut X are you? [/quote] It isn't just FCPX. No Mac Pro update and decimated pro software team. Logic may be discontinued or turned into 'Garage Band Pro'. Logic X anyone? No thanks.

Some nice shots in the C100 vs GH2 test but yes the GH2 is not being used to the optimal level. The colour is off and the lenses he's using on it are crap - kit zoom in some instances!! The Samyang 35mm F1.4 is better than the Samyang 24mm F1.4 on a crop sensor. I do like the C100's image especially the colour but again the Blackmagic has the more film-like appeal.

[quote name='Paul Watt' timestamp='1354173840' post='22608'] Interesting cameras, to be sure. Global shutter would be so sweet. Gotta say though, that the Epic can be built much much smaller, and I can edit 4K RED raw on my laptop. Bet the image is insanely amazing, but I have a feeling the workflow will be slow, very data heavy, and complex in comparison. [/quote] I think the F55 is smaller than Epic, no? Don't forget you have 4K H.264 on the Sony. That should be editable on a laptop like Canon 1D C MJPEG for fast delivery. I am sure their raw codec will perform similarly to the other ones out there. NVidia CUDA makes mincemeat of raw these days, even on a laptop (Alienware with GTX 580M or MacBook Pro Retina).

Thanks dude. Euro pricing here (sourced by SlashCAM, page is in German: http://www.slashcam.de/news/single/Offizielle-Euro-Preise-fuer-Sonys-PMW-F5-F55-und-Zu-10296.html) [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]PMW-F5 15.340 Euro[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]PMW-F55 27.804 Euro[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]AXS-R5 S35mm F-series External RAW Recorder 5.206 Euro[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]AXS-CR1 Access Card Reader 549 Euro[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]AXS-512S24 Access Card 512GB for AXS-R5 External Recorder 1.535 Euro[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]SCL-PK6/F CineAlta PL Lens Pack (6 lenses) 19.895 Euro[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]SCL-PK3/F CineAlta PL Lens Pack (3 lenses) 11.118 Euro[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]DVF-L700 7″ LCD Viewfinder for F-series 4.113 Euro[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]DVF-L350 3.5″ LCD Viewfinder for F-series 2.925 Euro[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]DVF-EL100 0.7″ OLED Viewfinder for F-series 4.113 Euro[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]BP-FL75 Olivine Battery for F-series 470 Euro[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]BP-L90 Olivine Battery Charger for F-series 766 Euro[/size][/font][/color]

[url="http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/sony-f55.jpg"][img]http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/sony-f55.jpg[/img][/url] [url="http://www.fdtimes.com/2012/11/27/sony-f5-and-f55-96-page-report/"]Jon Fauer ASC[/url] has put together a 96 page report on the Sony F5 and F55. Along with what we now know here is my analysis of the Sony F5, F55 and that other competitor - the Canon C500.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LO7rxitFLZg Thanks for [url="https://twitter.com/SmackChopG/status/273979426075713536"]G Xiong on Twitter[/url] for this one :)