Andrew Reid

I just use generic ones for c-mount on the GH2. They work fine but if your infinity focus is critical they may not be accurate enough. Any better suggestions welcome guys...

[quote author=sandro link=topic=368.msg2326#msg2326 date=1331152731] Do we have 1080p videos from the D800 yet? [/quote] Yes and they are as soft as 5D but with awful aliasing and moire. HDMI output on that camera might be a different bag.

[quote author=Shawn_Lights link=topic=368.msg2317#msg2317 date=1331142493]We deal with the short comings of DSLRs because they produce great images and are cheap. However, if you want the amazing video features, expect to pay more. The 5D2 was over $2,000. I expect the C-DSLR to at least double that.[/quote] It really does depend, market and tech both moving so fast. GH2 is utterly mind-blowing for the price.

Why would an anti-aliasing filter help rolling shutter? No it doesn't have an affect.

There's more false detail on the 5D Mark II. No doubt 5D Mark III is better for cleanness of the resolution but disappointed it is not at GH2 level. On a $3500 DSLR, I mean c'mon FFS.

[html][img]http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/rollingshutterdistortionofeos5dmark2.jpg[/img] [url="http://mono-logue.air-nifty.com/monolog/2012/03/post-6b3f.html"]This Japanese test[/url] is quite revealing. Rolling shutter is reduced by half. [url="http://www.eoshd.com/content/7384/extent-of-rolling-shutter-reduction-on-5d-mark-iii/"]Read full article[/url] [/html]

Don't forget Sony. They will have a full frame camera out by Photokina 2012 and they have come on a hell of a lot with DSLR video lately. Sure I am disappointed the 5D Mark III resolution is as soft as 5D Mark II but at least moire, aliasing, codec, rolling shutter and low light ALL improved. And it no longer drops to 540p over HDMI. It is a refinement of a great camera. The price is too high though, I agree.

It plays back fine for me on same cards. Not touched the audio bitrate? I'll look into it.

Good point Matthew. I don't entirely believe the reason there isn't clean HDMI at 1080p is because of lack of grunt. Even the 7D does it. Canon protecting C300 again? "If you don't cannibalise yourself, someone else will". One word: D800.

See - [url=http://www.eoshd.com/comments/index.php/topic,369.0.html]http://www.eoshd.com/comments/index.php/topic,369.0.html[/url]

It is good enough for many many great shoots to come, but it is definitely a lot softer on fine details than the GH2 is capable of. It isn't any better than 5D Mark II in terms of actual resolution. And this is a £3000 camera body. It took 3.5 years to do this??

For the price I was expecting it to at least scale 22MP cleanly to 2MP, as the GH2 can scale 18MP to 2MP almost perfectly with resolution almost nip and tuck with a still scaled down in Photoshop. The sensor in the GH2 is clearly optimised for video. The sensor in the 5D3 is clearly not so much. A half hearted effort to add 1MP to 21MP to get even binning. Not sure what else they've changed. This is an expensive camera. And there is nothing in-between this and the C300 from Canon. It is however - and this is important to remember - possibly the best full frame camera on the market for video. But the D800 is sure to give it some tough competition now. It isn't the walk over I thought it would be.

[html][url="http://www.vimeo.com/38055013"]http://www.vimeo.com/38055013[/url] (Please download the original 5D 1080p file, it only streams in 720p. No artistic value. Not representative of final firmware. No salesman will call.) Looks like someone didn’t get the memo! In the last few hours the first 90Mbit 1080p Quicktime file was made available from a pre-production 5D Mark III. The subject matter is mundane but finally we get to see what the true resolution of this camera is like. The test is shot at ISO 3600. Here’s my verdict… [url="http://www.eoshd.com/content/7378/5d-mark-iii-raw-h-264-video-file-for-download/"]Read full article[/url] [/html]

[html][img]http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/IMG_0007.jpg[/img] I was able to try out the 5D Mark III for myself today in the UK at the Focus On Imaging show. I also had a talk to one of Canon’s technicians about sensor downscaling, HDMI output and more. Is it truly the big improvement on the 5D Mark II for video everybody is hoping for? I also got my hands on a Nikon D800 and Fuji X Pro, more on those after the break… [url="http://www.eoshd.com/content/7361/hands-on-with-the-canon-5d-mark-iii/"]Read full article[/url] [/html]

[html][img]http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/canon-g1-x.jpg[/img] It is a testament to how demanding the camera market place is of manufacturers at the moment that Canon could bring out a large sensor compact like the G1 X and for me to have quite a few major gripes about it. This is the best image quality we’ve ever seen from a camera in the ‘compact’ class. Although the Panasonic GX1 with 14-42mm PZ comes pretty close for around the same price. Video wise, image quality at 1080/24p is actually rather detailed and can be almost DSLR standard but it is not a match for the GH2 because of heavy aliasing, a slow fixed lens and a lack of manual control. [url="http://www.eoshd.com/content/7339/canon-powershot-g1-x-review-part-1/"]Read full article[/url] [/html]

You can't judge res from a clip shot at ISO 12,800! We just don't know much about what went into this clip in terms of post processing, camera settings and compression. Vimeo clip download file size is tiny, much smaller than a raw ALL-I 90Mbit file. Various review sites have a 5D Mark III already. Once one gets one with a clue about video, then maybe we can rest easy knowing our pre-orders won't need to be cancelled! It is looking good so far though....

Andy. Don't be such a negative man.  ??? I don't understand how you can put such a negative spin on performance like that. It is genuinely ground breaking. It is soft because of heavy compression for the web and the in-camera noise reduction (probably) turned up high. Turn that off, and see what the 91Mbit ALL-I files look like before passing judgement on the fineness of noise grain and resolution. To have ISO 12,800 that clean is extraordinary quite frankly and I don't understand all the insane anti-DSLR negativity around. Frankly wish they would shut up!

[html][url="http://www.vimeo.com/37879608"]http://www.vimeo.com/37879608[/url] Here is a shot from Japan which was shot with both the 5D Mark II and 5D Mark III (with beta firmware) by a camera reviewer. The cleanness and lack of noise is something quite remarkable. Are we in for a incredible low light treat – a truly ground breaking camera? [url="http://www.eoshd.com/content/7328/astonishing-canon-5d-mark-iii-iso-12800-video/"]Read full article[/url] [/html]

[quote author=MattH link=topic=354.msg2181#msg2181 date=1330804753] You are English.  Why are you using "Period" like an american?  I've always found it an unnecessary and arrogant characteristic. Other than that. Great site.  I can't see the Nikon solving the moire problem with the HDMI-out either.  Its a sampling issue.  As far as I'm concerned they have brought out a last generation camera. I think the fact that the 5d mk3 has a 5760 horizontal resolution which is an exact 3x multiple of 1920 will contribute to very clean and fast downscaling. I am extremely in interested to see what features trickle down into the 650d.  But for a direct multiple they would have to have a 22.3 megapixel aps-c sensor or go down to 9.8304 megapixel which is probably to low for stills. [/quote] Very interesting point about the horizontal resolution. Seems video is the reason it is 22MP. Canon seem to be taking us seriously. Nikon would never spec a DSLR sensor with video in mind.

If! It is very unlikely in my opinion.

Very big difference in price! The GH2 has a marvellous codec with the hack and insane detail. Only splurge on the 5D Mark III if you really need the large full frame sensor, timecode, and *possibly* a very superior image especially in low light. I'd also wait for the proper sample videos and reviews before making a decision. GH2 is so cheap. Why not get both if you can afford the 5D Mark III? Not much more of a stretch over the top.

It is a bit of a shame. But it is probably the best compact ever made for low light and stills. Mine has just arrived, so expect review of video mode soon.

[html][img]http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/canon-5d-mark-iii-vs-nikon-d800-video.jpg[/img] For the vast majority of DSLR shooters these cameras are a lot of money so it is important to get the right one. Often it could be a small feature that sways it for your individual needs so it is never right to say that one camera is ‘better’ for ‘everyone’. It isn’t as cut and dry. However it is possible to be objective about image quality. I’d say the 5D Mark III definitely has the better internal codec and resolution. [url="http://www.eoshd.com/content/7311/canon-5d-mark-iii-vs-nikon-d800-for-video/"]Read full article[/url] [/html]

How about ISO 12,800 that looks like ISO 3200 on previous camera? It is next gen in terms of stills quality.

[html][img]http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/canon-5d-mark-iii-close-up.jpg[/img] The maximum bitrate of the 5D Mark III in video mode has been revealed, and other breaking news… [url="http://www.eoshd.com/content/7289/5d-mark-iii-round-up/"]Read full article[/url] [/html]