Andrew Reid

Stop the bullshit people. I don't logon to read these petty arguments every day.

Rumoured specs from Canon Rumors: https://www.canonrumors.com/rf-mount-rumored-cinema-camera-specifications-cr2 Same Super35 sensor as the Canon Cinema EOS C200 Internal ND filters (mechanical) up to 6 stops 2x Mini XLR inputs Full-size HDMI 4K 4:2:2 10bit in ALL-I and IPB up to 120p 1x CFexpress Type B Slot 2x SD UHS-II slots External RAW recording options up to 4K 120P 2x LP-E6NH batteries Camera size smaller than the EOS-1D X Mark III Price: $4499 USD And may take on it: https://www.eoshd.com/news/is-this-the-new-komodo-style-4500-canon-mini-cinema-eos-camera/

I think "Leica50mm" is the anonymous online troll account of Canon's US marketing boss

Ahem. "The camera was turned on for 10 minutes to light, frame, expose, format, etc. Then switched off for 10 minutes." Bit of a strange way to shoot. Light, frame, expose, compose... then do what for 10 mins? Turn camera off and have a cuppa? "The camera was turned on again and I shot for 2 minutes, with a 2-minute break thereafter. Camera is turned off for all breaks. Repeat for three takes." So 3 takes of 2 minutes = 6 mins... With leisurely 2 min break in-between each clip! Very light usage. "The third break is 5 minutes, not 2 minutes." So we're now 3 short takes in after the 10 minute break followed by 2 breaks of 2 minutes and another one of 5 mins. That is more downtime than a French air traffic controller. "Camera completed Master and MS1. At the end of MS1, the estimated time dropped to 5 minutes. The 5 minute break didn’t help. During the second take in MS2, the camera overheat warning started to flash." Master and MS1... Apparently these are his made up dialogue scenes. How long were these? "I was able to finish the second take and shut the camera for two minutes. When I switched on again, the estimated time was 1:00, which is less than the roll time. So I had to stop the test." Shoot over. "Overall, the camera was able to shoot for exactly one hour before being on the verge of overheating." 1 hour of on-off short takes and it's dead! NOBODY can work like this... Not even the French.

Neither can the R5 6K is perfectly fine for green screen. Going to 8K brings only marginal benefits and is more taxing in post.

The sound of squealing breaks and a u-turn faster than you can say "no more 4K crop"!

Nope, been a bit of a nightmare. First quarterly lost since they started reporting (2001). Image service down the drain. EOS R5 & R6 defective. Coronavirus. What next? If it isn't a wakeup call for them I don't know what is 🙂

Canon web stores are down I hear the server has overheated... or maybe they are just editing out the EOS R5 pages 😂

Probably the grade from SLOG

Sod the recall. Canon can sell the EOS R5 to Icelandic elves and eskimos.

Lame AF is showstopper for Alexa then too.

Stranger things have happened.

Note 10+ and S10 camera does have nice colours and dynamic range. But it's nowhere near the P40 Pro in low light or if you pixel peep it. The S20 Ultra is also pretty far behind too with most shots.

Ah so that's the solution then. Move to New Zealand where it is currently winter?

It could have been a last moment marketing push to add the features. And engineering didn't have the time to implement it properly. Funny thing is, Richard Butler read all the press releases for the cameras and still wrote this. The question is why? What did Canon tell him? Probably because they originally intended it to be a 4K pixel binning 30p 8bit cripple camera. Then marketing looked at the Sony sales chart and A7S III rumours and wet the bed. Then Japanese senior management approved the u-turn. And the engineers went... Erm... ok! A cock up all round!

https://www.eoshd.com/news/canon-said-eos-r5-shoots-comfortably-on-high-end-production-sets-ideal-partner-to-c300-mark-iii-why-overheating-is-not-on-purpose/ My latest opinion, it's not a cripple hammer moment. They genuinely wanted this thing to be used by pros on same high-end productions as a Cinema EOS C300 Mark III. Well that's how it was sold to us in April anyway. What changed at the last minute? Were the overheating results expected and a surprise to Canon? Yep, I think so.

B-Cam to C300 III anyone? https://www.eoshd.com/news/canon-said-eos-r5-shoots-comfortably-on-high-end-production-sets-ideal-partner-to-c300-mark-iii-why-overheating-is-not-on-purpose/

It is going to go far. Phone apps already mimic the bokeh of specific old lenses. Sensor size is has gone up to nearly 1" in the thinnest handsets and dynamic range has surpassed many full frame DSLRs. But when you need manual controls, the lack of physical buttons and dials let a smartphone down and I can't see that changing much.

I would take Vitaliy with a pinch of Black Sea salt with his "rumours from a dealer" on technical matters. I am not sure why any dealer would be in the loop over internal Canon Japan engineering issues, it's not exactly as if the Japanese communicate with them on a deep level. As we have seen over shipping dates!

Oops.

Does this mean you are going to back to being a Sony fanboy instead now? Tilta seemed to get the fan out suspiciously early! Who knows what they may have heard from insiders early on? Firmware is not usually grounds for a recall though. Hardware adjustments are.

The RAWs are useful in some situations, where you want a finer grain, or to bypass image processing, over sharpening, but yeah its a softer and much noisier image with less dynamic range in RAW than in the JPEGs in most cases! Crazy!

100% agree

The 3-4 cam arrays on smartphones show the strength of the future for camera arrays. As long as they don't take it a step too far!...

Haha that's the big irony on that forum isn't it... Full of people who don't care about video and a dead video section, but woe betide anyone who upsets them with video comments! The 8K overheating... Well your £500 card will fill up before it gets to 20 mins so that's not the only issue 👍😆