Andrew Reid

The Panasonic S1H to Atomos Ninja V ProRes RAW firmware is downloadable here... https://www.eoshd.com/raw-video/panasonic-s1h-to-atomos-ninja-v-6k-prores-raw-update-now-available-to-download/ Seriously consider giving the 6K RAW a go. Most ProRes RAW is pixel binned via HDMI (like Nikon Z6, Sigma Fp, GFX 100, etc.) But not this one.

It is now available https://www.panasonic.com/global/consumer/lumix/s/s1h/firmware_atomos.html Most cameras do 4K ProRes RAW and have to pixel bin to achieve 12bit, as a full pixel readout at the higher colour depth would be too slow. This is where the S1H is different... It is the only one to do a full pixel readout, in native 6K at 12bit. Amazing sensor technology.

There is the Metabones EF-R mount Speed Booster which could be interesting on the EOS R5 in crop mode.

It's simple enough to explain. Most people don't need 12K and they will express their opinion. What's wrong with that? Doesn't make them "not a filmmaker". Many feel that the specs of the EOS R5 are perfect for them on paper, and had expected more from Sony - the basics, like matching Canon and Panasonic for IBIS performance (it doesn't), like finally getting an internal eND like the FS5 does (it doesn't), so people are entitled to their whinging! There is a lot to like as well but I am sticking with GFX 100 for my main camera. If I get the A7S III it will be to review it, test it, maybe optimise Pro Color for it and to make some LUTs. I can't see myself ditching the GFX 100 for one. The EOS R5 meanwhile, is basically defective and should be recalled so none of the great things about it are really all that usable. I think people are right to be angry. On top of it all, it's been a really shit year in general!

And I told you. No it isn't. Welcome to the internet!

More bad tests. It's like being screamed at by an 80-year old about their faulty iMac! "It doesn't work!" What doesn't work, what happened? What app crashed? "It doesn't work!"

Uh oh. Here we go.

It does consolidate their lead over Canon in video. It will be a good option for pros. And probably reliable. We'll see. I really do wish they would sort out an internal ND filter one day though. How hard can it be?! Clear glass over sensor, that turns dark with voltage applied. Nothing needs to move out of the way. DCI 4K and anamorphic mode should be in there too. Apart from that looks like a very good improvement, albeit one we've had to wait 5 years for 🙂

By continuous I mean a normal continuous shooting mode rather than a S&Q mode conformed to lower frame rate in-camera.

https://www.eoshd.com/news/sony-a7s-iii-is-here-sensible-update-but-not-as-revolutionary-as-hoped-plus-tough-competition-from-panasonic-s1h/ I wouldn't say it was either underwhelming, or fantastically exciting. The 4K/120p 10bit mode looks great. Other than that it seems to be lots of sensible evolutions in all areas that add up to a very usable professional tool. The combination of features does take some beating. To have that new 10bit codec, continuous 4K 120p, good thermal management, great big high-res EVF, new menus, along with the latest Sony phase-detect AF, does appeal to a lot of people, whereas in comparison the EOS R5 looks like a bit of a broken toy to be honest, with the silly fan strapped to the back. Sony clearly have a better processor than Canon and better engineering know-how to avoid heat limitations in 4K/120p and 10bit. I do like the new hybrid SD / CFExpress type A card slots too. The very fast media is barely any larger than UHS II SD. However, part of me thinks it will be a bit uninspiring to pick up and shoot with. Like all Sonys are. The new menus look ugly, and all it really seems to amount to is putting the tabs at the side rather than at the top. Fuji's and Panasonic's menus look a lot better. The playback thumbnails are still dreadful for video clips. And it remains to be seen what the live-view quality is like and whether it makes use of the 9 million dot EVF and what the focussing aids are like. Is peaking still a fuzzy mess?

Sorry, pressed publish before I'd finished the article!! Oops! Still learning about the camera so have corrected it, please refresh the page. It does match the FX9 on paper in terms of the wide colour gamut in LOG, but it has yet to be tested in reality. I am sure the out of-camera colour still relies on dated Creative Styles. You're right! I need 12k!

I am moving to 8K smartphones 😂

It's only possible in APS-C 1.6x crop mode. May as well get an EOS R for that, it's a lot cheaper than $4000.

Please keep that shit head off my forum.

Yeah, absolutely. It seemed like Canon turned a corner. Yes the 8K sensor readout only works if you start from cold. I.e. room temperature around 23 degrees C maximum. 4K from 8K sensor should be doable in 2020. In 2014 for $1500 let's remind ourselves that 4K from 7K was a thing on Samsung NX1. And in H.265 too. I am curious to see if you can record oversampled 4K 24p in 8bit to SD card on the EOS R5 and R6, and whether this takes some load away from the image processor. SD cards don't get as hot as CFExpress. 8bit H.264 is way less CPU intensive than 10bit encoding (H.265). I'd rather have that than pixel binned 10bit. Problem is, I don't think C-LOG is available in 8bit mode? Yeah, if we pay the extra, we expect to use it. At least they are going to be very short bursts of slow-mo. Still, why are they so large? Isn't it conformed in-camera to a regular frame rate? 200Mbit would have been enough. Instead I think the encoder has to use ALL-I with very light compression, as anything more complex at 4K/120fps would melt the camera even more. 10bit 422 H.265 is a total nightmare. This is why certain Fuji or Panasonic cameras go for 10bit 4:2:0 in H.265. Or in some cases 10bit 4:2:2 in H.264 Gerald did an external recorder test too and the camera sensor overheated at one point. Complete shut down. Yep. And they are enormous. If you thought the 85mm F1.2L EF was big and heavy, the 85mm F1.2L RF is even bigger. WHY?! Mirrorless lenses are a golden opportunity to reduce sizes and weight. Yeah, and in all the most practical file size modes! Don't criticise the JESUS camera.

Canon blow-hards!

It's so frustrating this group lesson with the slowest in the class sometimes. I should not even reply to the bait! I am being attacking for a car analogy?! Relax. What I said: "Let’s assume that Apple released a smartphone for $1000 (the EOS R6 costs $2500) aimed at the high-end of the consumer market, which turns off regularly throughout a normal day’s use due to an overheating processor. That is a class action lawsuit and recall. If we assume Toyota makes a high performance car, which has an engine that overheats 20 minutes into a journey on the autobahn at 120mph, that is a product unfit for purpose and it would have to go back to the dealer." Or to put it another way, if VW bring out a car advertised with low emissions at X level, then when you use it is much worse, that is also consumer class action lawsuit territory. You may not like that and may want to buy the EOS R5 anyway but don't come attacking me for it. I didn't design the camera did I!??! I said numerous times before Gerald showed us by using the actual camera that the 20 minutes or however many minutes advertised will vary massively and is unpredictable, and impossible to plan a shoot around. I would have shown you this with an actual camera as well. It is a bit difficult to show you without one. But does that make it any less true? No. If you disagree so much with what I'm saying, at least disagree in a respectful way with evidence to change my mind. That should be your next post by the way. Not some gibberish personal nonsense.

Haha. Yeah it's just not worth the humiliation is it!! I was all set to order one as well but it just isn't worth the agro. Overheating, rolling shutter on Sony A6300 I could about stomach back in 2016 for £1200. But with a £4100 camera? No thanks. In fact the problem is far worse on the EOS R5 and R6 because the A6300 you could at least take stills with for hours without killing the 4K recording! There are other issues I don't like either - the rolling shutter and file sizes aren't very practical at all in some modes.

Yeah I've had that issue myself before and formatting did the trick. Sometimes a PC or Mac leaves hidden files in folders and the camera doesn't like that.

Looks like somebody is flip flopping. Oversampled 4K 24p is a feature that exists in the competition, often for up to one quarter of the price of the EOS R5, and half the price of an EOS R6. Take the EOS R6 overheating as an example. It shoots 4K from a 5K sensor readout. Competitor: Panasonic S1 4K from 6K sensor readout, $2000, full frame, 10bit codec and V-LOG No fan or vents. Weather sealed. So how come that is able to do it but the EOS R6 isn't. Maybe the Canon autofocus is to blame?! 😂 Is that going to be your next excuse. Sony A7 III oversampled from 6K. Sony A9 oversampled from 6K. Older crop sensor cameras have done oversampling for years. Smaller sensor but bigger data rate than EOS R6. X-T3 4K from 6K sensor readout GH5 4K from 5.5K sensor readout NX1 4K from 7K sensor... And that was in 2014!! And it doesn't matter if the EOS R5 has a 'groundbreaking feature not available anywhere else' if it doesn't work when you try to use it! HELLO?! I can claim my car does 200mph but if it blows up when it goes past 120 then it isn't much use is it?? So yes 4K/120p is all very well but if the camera is sitting there blinking with an error and refusing to record it during a shoot of upmost mission criticalness, it's worse than not even having it because it ruins the shoot. You cannot depend on it. You may bring it on a shoot for that. You may NEED the slow mo shot and plan for it. Write it into a script even. Then when it comes to the crunch the camera lets you down. It's a complete scandal. And yes it is exactly the same as needing to get somewhere in a car, but it doesn't arrive at the destination. "A7RIV, the Sony flagship, does not overheat because its only video mode is the R5 normal 4K mode" The A7S III should be the one you compare it to as that's the hybrid camera like the EOS R5, which shoots 10bit 4K 120p, that feature you claim nobody else has 😂 "It’s like having the best car on the market on most points, and have an extra bonus boost mode that gives you 0-100kmh in one second but only usable for 20min." 😂 It isn't 20 minutes!! It is in many cases 0 minutes. It is a variable and almost random impossible to anticipate cut off in the middle of a shot. No professional or artist or enthusiast can possibly tolerate it. The best car on the market is not one that goes 200mph sometimes and 0mph most of the time, refusing to start on the driveway. That car is in fact a bag of garbage that most people would return to the dealer after a week. And it will be the same with the R5 and R6 too.

Imagine you get a great opportunity to film a music video, could be a career turning point. You bring the EOS R5 and half the video ends up with completely different image quality than the other half, because you're forced to change modes!

Absolutely right. Remember the Samsung NX1. The sensor was allegedly capable of 4K 240fps in the lab, even in 2014. They could have chosen to implement 4K/60p or even 4k/120p with a faster processor, but the technology simply wasn't there, and Samsung didn't want to use RED style active cooling fan, vents, radiators, to increase the size and weight and cost of a $1500 hybrid camera. It had decent passive heat management and efficient processors for the time, and important thing - reliability. Canon must be seen to banish the perception that their technology lags behind. 8K RAW badge on the box at all costs. I do appreciate an 8K full pixel readout on a 45 megapixel full frame sensor but it must be done in a way that doesn't compromise reliability. Canon felt it would be ok to compromise that and push pros onto Cinema EOS cameras at an even higher cost and higher margin, in my opinion. It smacks of a cynical conspiracy. The reliable limits of their technology make 2015 standard A7R II spec pixel binned 4K/30p possible. They have gone way past the limits of their own technology and created a hand grenade. If they get sued, they deserve it 100%. Yes, consumer groups will have a field day with the advertising claims of the EOS R5 and R6. And quite rightly too. Not everybody reads EOSHD or follows Gerald Undone. A lot of pre-orders went in, before even basic overheating timings were made available. Some people don't even research cameras very deeply on the internet, they are attached to a brand, walk into a shop, see the latest flagship from their favourite brand, and make the decision on the spot. Then they realise it isn't as advertised. I can't imagine Apple, Samsung, Google getting away with that in phone market? So why does Canon think this is different...

I hope it shines a light on how compromised journalism is in the camera industry.

First try formatting the card. Then create the NIKON / CUSTOMPC folders as per the guide. They key bits in the guide are: The .NP3 files are for the full frame mirrorless Nikon Z7/Z6 The .NP2 files are for D850/D750/D5500/D5600 and newer DSLRs The .NCP files are for D800/D4S/D4/D600/D610/D5300 and older DSLRs ONE SET ONLY (NP3 or NP2 or NCP depending on your model) must be within the CUSTOMPC folder on the memory card to be seen by the camera. Do not place the ZIP files here (only the individual NCP or NP2 or NP3 picture profile files are recognised). Please note: older NCP / NP2 profiles have to be named PICCON01.NCP, PICCON02.NCP, PICCON03.NCP for the camera to recognise them. Please do not rename the files. Enter the main menus and navigate to MOVIE SHOOTING MENU*
 Scroll down and select MANAGE PICTURE CONTROL
 In this menu select LOAD/SAVE and then COPY TO CAMERA
 EOSHD Z-LOG should appear on screen. Confirm selection with OK.

In a Canon patent an EF lens adapter cooler with active fan and radiator was suggested. It was probably not released alongside the camera, in my opinion because it would reduce sales of native RF lenses. The shape of the camera in the patent clearly resembles the EOS R5. It remains to be seen if we'll see this adapter on sale, ever. Venting heat through the lens mount from the sensor probably doesn't do much for the LSI anyway, as that's on the other side. Unless the heat problem is actually with the sensor?