Andrew Reid

Why does every comment of yours has a massive elephant in the room? Nobody is criticising Canon for being conservative on the EOS R5 specs. You have to deliver the specs AND reliability, so that customers don't get a defective product. Not hard to understand is it?

I'd love to know your experience of this release so far... have you received your pre-order? Is the camera in stock anywhere to buy, online, or on the high-street? Here's what news I found today in Berlin: https://www.eoshd.com/news/will-canon-recall-the-eos-r5-i-asked-retailers-today-and-the-picture-is-grim/

Here's some news I had from asking around retailers today. Some shipments had arrived last week in very small quantities. Today and tomorrow were meant to be the days they pass them onto the first people who pre-ordered. The entire country of Germany, 83 million people received 70 units from Canon in Japan. The pre-order waiting list for just one store in Berlin was nearly 300 cameras. The biggest retailer I spoke to said they would not be getting 'any R5 until October earliest due to bugs'. When pressed further, he said the chain were unhappy at the reliability of the camera and the fact that Canon had asked the chain (largest electronic chain in Europe) to sign a new contract of incredible complexity and length, which has to be checked and will also result in weeks of delays. That the store was extremely unhappy with Canon and that they 'were going the way of Olympus if they keep up this behaviour'. Another store had received just 5 units. This was the largest photographic retailer store in the capital of Germany. It is extremely unusual to receive so few shipments of such a big, popular release. Not sure what the situation is like back home in the UK. Probably similar. I think the recall is on and will be announced next week.

What software did you use to read the RAW format res?

You can't trust any Sony A7S III test where the reviewer doesn't realise that you need to set the temp cut off to high in the menus. And you can't trust any reviewer who reviews a camera without knowing how to use it!

What?! S1H came out way before the EOS R5. If anything it's the other way around.

Their "electronic ND" is a composite stills mode only, it doesn't work in video.

The funny thing is Sony event admitted their white balance was all over the place on previous cameras, with the additional light sensor on the A7S III which tries to fix the problem. But skintones definitely still look whacked!

The Panasonic S1H to Atomos Ninja V ProRes RAW firmware is downloadable here... https://www.eoshd.com/raw-video/panasonic-s1h-to-atomos-ninja-v-6k-prores-raw-update-now-available-to-download/ Seriously consider giving the 6K RAW a go. Most ProRes RAW is pixel binned via HDMI (like Nikon Z6, Sigma Fp, GFX 100, etc.) But not this one.

It is now available https://www.panasonic.com/global/consumer/lumix/s/s1h/firmware_atomos.html Most cameras do 4K ProRes RAW and have to pixel bin to achieve 12bit, as a full pixel readout at the higher colour depth would be too slow. This is where the S1H is different... It is the only one to do a full pixel readout, in native 6K at 12bit. Amazing sensor technology.

There is the Metabones EF-R mount Speed Booster which could be interesting on the EOS R5 in crop mode.

It's simple enough to explain. Most people don't need 12K and they will express their opinion. What's wrong with that? Doesn't make them "not a filmmaker". Many feel that the specs of the EOS R5 are perfect for them on paper, and had expected more from Sony - the basics, like matching Canon and Panasonic for IBIS performance (it doesn't), like finally getting an internal eND like the FS5 does (it doesn't), so people are entitled to their whinging! There is a lot to like as well but I am sticking with GFX 100 for my main camera. If I get the A7S III it will be to review it, test it, maybe optimise Pro Color for it and to make some LUTs. I can't see myself ditching the GFX 100 for one. The EOS R5 meanwhile, is basically defective and should be recalled so none of the great things about it are really all that usable. I think people are right to be angry. On top of it all, it's been a really shit year in general!

And I told you. No it isn't. Welcome to the internet!

More bad tests. It's like being screamed at by an 80-year old about their faulty iMac! "It doesn't work!" What doesn't work, what happened? What app crashed? "It doesn't work!"

Uh oh. Here we go.

It does consolidate their lead over Canon in video. It will be a good option for pros. And probably reliable. We'll see. I really do wish they would sort out an internal ND filter one day though. How hard can it be?! Clear glass over sensor, that turns dark with voltage applied. Nothing needs to move out of the way. DCI 4K and anamorphic mode should be in there too. Apart from that looks like a very good improvement, albeit one we've had to wait 5 years for 🙂

By continuous I mean a normal continuous shooting mode rather than a S&Q mode conformed to lower frame rate in-camera.

https://www.eoshd.com/news/sony-a7s-iii-is-here-sensible-update-but-not-as-revolutionary-as-hoped-plus-tough-competition-from-panasonic-s1h/ I wouldn't say it was either underwhelming, or fantastically exciting. The 4K/120p 10bit mode looks great. Other than that it seems to be lots of sensible evolutions in all areas that add up to a very usable professional tool. The combination of features does take some beating. To have that new 10bit codec, continuous 4K 120p, good thermal management, great big high-res EVF, new menus, along with the latest Sony phase-detect AF, does appeal to a lot of people, whereas in comparison the EOS R5 looks like a bit of a broken toy to be honest, with the silly fan strapped to the back. Sony clearly have a better processor than Canon and better engineering know-how to avoid heat limitations in 4K/120p and 10bit. I do like the new hybrid SD / CFExpress type A card slots too. The very fast media is barely any larger than UHS II SD. However, part of me thinks it will be a bit uninspiring to pick up and shoot with. Like all Sonys are. The new menus look ugly, and all it really seems to amount to is putting the tabs at the side rather than at the top. Fuji's and Panasonic's menus look a lot better. The playback thumbnails are still dreadful for video clips. And it remains to be seen what the live-view quality is like and whether it makes use of the 9 million dot EVF and what the focussing aids are like. Is peaking still a fuzzy mess?

Sorry, pressed publish before I'd finished the article!! Oops! Still learning about the camera so have corrected it, please refresh the page. It does match the FX9 on paper in terms of the wide colour gamut in LOG, but it has yet to be tested in reality. I am sure the out of-camera colour still relies on dated Creative Styles. You're right! I need 12k!

I am moving to 8K smartphones 😂

It's only possible in APS-C 1.6x crop mode. May as well get an EOS R for that, it's a lot cheaper than $4000.

Please keep that shit head off my forum.

Yeah, absolutely. It seemed like Canon turned a corner. Yes the 8K sensor readout only works if you start from cold. I.e. room temperature around 23 degrees C maximum. 4K from 8K sensor should be doable in 2020. In 2014 for $1500 let's remind ourselves that 4K from 7K was a thing on Samsung NX1. And in H.265 too. I am curious to see if you can record oversampled 4K 24p in 8bit to SD card on the EOS R5 and R6, and whether this takes some load away from the image processor. SD cards don't get as hot as CFExpress. 8bit H.264 is way less CPU intensive than 10bit encoding (H.265). I'd rather have that than pixel binned 10bit. Problem is, I don't think C-LOG is available in 8bit mode? Yeah, if we pay the extra, we expect to use it. At least they are going to be very short bursts of slow-mo. Still, why are they so large? Isn't it conformed in-camera to a regular frame rate? 200Mbit would have been enough. Instead I think the encoder has to use ALL-I with very light compression, as anything more complex at 4K/120fps would melt the camera even more. 10bit 422 H.265 is a total nightmare. This is why certain Fuji or Panasonic cameras go for 10bit 4:2:0 in H.265. Or in some cases 10bit 4:2:2 in H.264 Gerald did an external recorder test too and the camera sensor overheated at one point. Complete shut down. Yep. And they are enormous. If you thought the 85mm F1.2L EF was big and heavy, the 85mm F1.2L RF is even bigger. WHY?! Mirrorless lenses are a golden opportunity to reduce sizes and weight. Yeah, and in all the most practical file size modes! Don't criticise the JESUS camera.

Canon blow-hards!

It's so frustrating this group lesson with the slowest in the class sometimes. I should not even reply to the bait! I am being attacking for a car analogy?! Relax. What I said: "Let’s assume that Apple released a smartphone for $1000 (the EOS R6 costs $2500) aimed at the high-end of the consumer market, which turns off regularly throughout a normal day’s use due to an overheating processor. That is a class action lawsuit and recall. If we assume Toyota makes a high performance car, which has an engine that overheats 20 minutes into a journey on the autobahn at 120mph, that is a product unfit for purpose and it would have to go back to the dealer." Or to put it another way, if VW bring out a car advertised with low emissions at X level, then when you use it is much worse, that is also consumer class action lawsuit territory. You may not like that and may want to buy the EOS R5 anyway but don't come attacking me for it. I didn't design the camera did I!??! I said numerous times before Gerald showed us by using the actual camera that the 20 minutes or however many minutes advertised will vary massively and is unpredictable, and impossible to plan a shoot around. I would have shown you this with an actual camera as well. It is a bit difficult to show you without one. But does that make it any less true? No. If you disagree so much with what I'm saying, at least disagree in a respectful way with evidence to change my mind. That should be your next post by the way. Not some gibberish personal nonsense.