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Roger Cicala put on his tinfoil hat and posted his thoughts on the R5 overheating. https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64283221

The latest from b&h. https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64274876 In our August 4th update, we shared that Canon R5 preorders were very strong and Canon’s deliveries to US retailers have been extremely limited. We also promised to send regular updates. Since that note, we have not received any R5 deliveries from Canon. We expect to receive/ship our next delivery during the first week of September.

The problem was that sensors were advancing at at much greater pace when the GXR was available and that meant you needed to replace the whole sensor/lens module for improved IQ. This might have worked better over the past 5 years due to lack of sensor development, although now it is too late to start something like this.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64225686 The response to the R5 has been very strong. Canon’s deliveries to US retailers have been extremely limited. We shipped out the first delivery in full last week and we expect to receive/ship our next delivery in 3-4 weeks....

I do hope that Nikon can survive but the latest Q1 results look incredibly bad. Revenue was down 63% while Canon dropped 30% during the same period. Nikon's market share must be well below 20% now and Nikon is now forecasting a 5B restructuring expense for later this year to slash costs. based on this new norm. This is going to hit R&D and the future product pipeline beyond this year. https://nikonrumors.com/2020/08/06/nikon-q1-financial-results-are-out-2.aspx/

Apparently, this is not Canon's first time for overheating during video. Based on the below response Canon's PR has actually improved with the R5. 😂 https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Announcements/PowerShot-G7-X-Mark-III-Notice-Regarding-Erroneous-Warning/m-p/279102#M409 "Canon has identified a phenomenon with the PowerShot G7X Mark III where the camera may display an erroneous temperature warning soon after the start of movie recording. This phenomenon can be resolved by performing the following steps: 1) Power on the camera and Re-enter (or set) the Date, Time & Time Zone. 2) Turn off the camera and leave powered off for at least 90 minutes. 3) After at least 90 minutes, power the camera on again. After following this procedure, the erroneous warning should not recur."

Adorama, b&h and other dealers in the US are being told by Canon that next shipment will come during last week of August. Let's see what happens.

If this is correct then a major recall would be required to fix this. http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/23457/canon-eos-r5-overheating-video-failure/p4 "New rumors from dealer I got Canon R5 and R6 issues are in part related to severe bug with LSI not being able to lower frequency and enter sleep state where it is required. Chip is also unable to turn of parts that are not required now. Problem can be with actual chip design with significant defect that require few millions USD to fix and make new masks."

This photographer normally uses a 5D and 1D for his motocross events and was able to use an R5 under similar conditions yesterday. So it is possible to overheat the R5 taking only photos. https://www.canonrumors.com/forum/threads/gerald-undone-completes-exhaustive-record-time-testing-on-the-canon-eos-r5-and-canon-eos-r6.38979/page-4#post-851397 "I got to use an r5 today out at a Motocross event and well it turned off from only doing photos. This was using the ef to rf adapter and a 200mm f2. This was used for over a time period of 2.5-3 hrs and it was 86 degrees out. I’m glad that I didn’t buy it and needless to say my friend who did is pretty disappointed. I love 1d bodies" "Yup. Only stills. I think we use two or three batteries.Full disclosure I leaned on the shutter a lot I fired off a few thousand rounds and which by the way I must say that tracking is pretty incredible. Auto shut off was at 1 min. Yes I know it was warm out but doing photos then looking at them and doing photos and looking at them you wouldn’t think that a camera would get so warm that it would shut off from stills." "I had just got done shooting a burst and looked at the photos that were captured and the red thermometer was flashing and I proceeded to shoot more then the camera stopped. It took somewhere between 10-15 min to start working again. After this tho I quit using it"

Some more details from the manual. It looks like IQ of images are reduced first before it gets to the point of total shutdown. I suspect reviewers are not realizing this.

Bill Claff just mentioned that the R5 is applying NR up to ISO 640 that is improving DR by 2/3 stop. So a bit of trickery by Canon in order to match Sony's DR. https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64212513

It thought I would never see this day. Hopefully all future Canon bodies will have sensors based on the same tech.

I see that Adorama and BH Photo are including for free the 25mm f1.8 lens when you purchase the E-M10 Mark III. The E-M10iii deals have officially started now.

The lack of any leaks related to IBIS improvement would seem to confirm that Canon will have a noticeable lead here. I do wonder if there is a tradeoff between heat and very good IBIS. I also see there is no internal raw as well. I don't think this will necessarily jump over the R5 for video. There will be trade-offs with each body. Sony may have an edge for pure video where IBIS is not important. Canon may offer more for highbrid users with the greater MP or for those that have handheld video use. Then there is also potential color differences and ease of use for editing

JIP issued an update on the transfer of the Olympus Imaging business. https://jipinc.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/Regarding-Olympus-Imaging-Business-Transfer.pdf

Olympus went with your first suggestion based on the just leaked specs. At least this will provide some deals on the E-M10iii.

Latest Olympus interview at dpreview. https://www.*BAD_URL*/interviews/1110652776/olympus-interview-we-are-extremely-grateful-to-all-of-our-customers-for-their-loyalty-and-support

It is coming. https://www.canonrumors.com/feature-updates-coming-via-firmware-for-both-the-canon-eos-r5-and-canon-eos-r6/ Rumored Canon EOS R6 Firmware Update: Adding All-I for all record modes Canon Log 3

The A9 with stacked sensor has less DR. If the A7Siii also has a stacked sensor then we may see a similar low DR.

US pricing confirmed as $2499 for R6 and $3899 for R5.

The R5 and R6 look exactly the same except for the mode dial vs top screen. I kind of like direct access to the custom modes on the R6.

Sensor readout speed is the big unknown that will impact 4k60p crop/binning and rolling shutter. My gut tells me that it will be similar to the 1D X III.

From Nokishita.

I do wonder if this interview was in response to the Olympus announcement along with the Canon coming announcements. If you believe the rumor site that initially leaked the Olympus closing then Sony has begun to start re-evaluating their camera business. It depends on how long Sony believe the losses will continue. Sony has been know to leave businesses quickly if they don't see a quick turnaround. http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/24019/sony-will-be-sony-group-could-move-cameras-division-into-separate-company

I remember seeing a number of complaints related to Panasonic lenses not being repairable with the 100-400 getting mentioned a few times with more recently the 10-25 f1.7. These are expensive lenses and I don't believe Olympus lenses having the same issues. That is interesting regarding the RF lens issue but the only reference I could find at Lensrental was the reference to the linear focus system but that would be an issue with all mirrorless lenses.