FilmMan

cameraboy,   Pricing of the cards have been varying.  In early September, a 2 pack  of 32 GB were on sale for $238.  Then they went up to $243.  Now they are priced at $379.50 for the 2 pack!  [url="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/841573-REG/Lexar_LCF32GCTBNA10002_32GB_CompactFlash_Memory_Card.html"]http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/841573-REG/Lexar_LCF32GCTBNA10002_32GB_CompactFlash_Memory_Card.html[/url]   Pricing has increased.  That will most likely change as Christmas nears or shortly in the New Year.  

The article mentions this camera.  2013 should be very interesting.  [url="http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/29/worlds-smallest-4k-usb-3-0-camera/"]http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/29/worlds-smallest-4k-usb-3-0-camera/[/url]

Should read: Why doesn't give at least 10 bit instead of 8 bit?

It appears the 1DC is expected to be available for December 26, 2012.  Boxing Day. Why the doesn't Canon at 10 bit?    Price lowered to $11999 on the BH photo webpage.  It was originally $12999. [url="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=canon+1d+c&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search"]http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=canon+1d+c&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search[/url]=

[b] PRICING[/b] 11-23-201208:00 AM - edited 11-28-201207:23 PM [center][u]MEDIA ALERT [/u][/center] [center][b]SONY ANNOUNCES PRICING FOR NEW CINEALTA 4K CAMERAS [/b][/center] [center][i]New CineAlta[/i][i]®[/i][i] 4K Cameras expands Sony’s full line-up of digital cinematography tools [/i][/center] [b]PARK RIDGE, N.J., Nov. 28, 2012 --[/b] Sony Electronics has announced suggested list pricing for its newest CineAlta™ 4K cameras – the PMW-F55 and PMW-F5 – as well as their related 4K accessories. These new technologies, announced in late October to tremendous industry response, are designed to meet the growing demand for HD, 2K and 4K content creation across a wide range of professional applications. The suggested U.S. LIST pricing for the new products, planned to be available in February, are: [list] [*]PMW-F5 CineAlta 4K Camera $19,400 [*]PMW-F55 CineAlta 4K Camera $34,900 [*]AXR-R5 RAW Recorder $6,300 [*]AXS-512S24 512Gb Memory Card $2,100 [*]AXS-CR1 card reader $660.00 [*]DVF -EL100 OLED Viewfinder $5,800 [*]DVF-F350 3.5” LCD Viewfinder $3,800 [*]DVF-L700 LCD viewfinder $5,000 [*]SCL-PK6/F PL mount six lens package $24,600 [*]SCL-PK3/F PL mount three lens package $13,600 [/list] Sony also plans to introduce the PVM-X300 30-inch 4K professional monitor in February 2013, with list pricing to be announced. “The F55 and F5 join Sony’s family of large-sensor cameras that complement each other and deliver powerful, new capabilities to professionals working at every level of production,” said Rob Willox, Director of Marketing for large-image sensor cameras at Sony Electronics. “These cameras give production professionals the most compressive toolkit available from one manufacturer. The large sensor line-up now spans from the FS100 and FS700 and F3, to the new F5 and F55 to the flagship F65, and gives content creators incredible flexibility and creative options for acquisition in HD, 2K, 4K and beyond. The total line-up, with our new accessories, further underscores Sony’s commitment to supporting every aspect of the highest-quality workflows.” [b][u]TECHNOLOGY HIGHLIGHTS:[/u][/b] [list] [*]Both cameras are equipped (with different) 4K Super35mm CMOS sensors. These state-of-the-art sensors capture 14-stops of exposure latitude with high resolution and fine tonal gradations [*]The F55 can capture 4K and QFHD XAVC internally on SxS Pro+cards up to 60p. When using the optional AXS-R5, the F55 can record up to 60fps in 16Bit linear RAW [*]The PMW-F5 & PMW-F55 camcorders can internally record high frame rate HD and 2K XAVC at up to 120fps (F5) or 180fps (F55). When recording 16-bit 2K RAW to the optional AXS‑R5, frame rates up to 120fps (F5) or 240fps (F55) are possible [*]The F55 can output 4K HDMI, SDI using both the SDI(Main) and SDI(Sub) when in the 4K recording mode and can monitor 4K up to 30p [*]The PMW-F5 & F55 both employ HDMI V1.4a for monitoring. Using the HDMI 1.4a, the F5 can output 2K and HD up to 60p. The F55 can additionally output 4K on HDMI up to 30p. [/list] For more information on all CineAlta and the F5/F55 cameras, please visit [url="http://www.sony.com/35mm"]www.sony.com/35mm[/url]

Non scientific review. [url="https://vimeo.com/54333844"]https://vimeo.com/54333844[/url]

http://vimeo.com/54325017 For those interested: [url="https://vimeo.com/54325017"]https://vimeo.com/54325017[/url]

Not sure if this was posted, so don't shoot me if it was... :)

BMC as an A camera for Spike. [url="http://thediamondbros.com/spike-tv-call-of-duty-blackmagic-cinema-camera/"]http://thediamondbros.com/spike-tv-call-of-duty-blackmagic-cinema-camera/[/url] [url="https://vimeo.com/54377649"]https://vimeo.com/54377649[/url]

@Ben [b]Camera's used:[/b] Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Canon Lenses Canon EOS 7D, Canon Lenses Canon XA-10 GoPro HD Hero Silicon Imaging SI-2K 'Nano', Zeiss Ultra Prime Lenses Silicon Imaging SI-2K Mini, Zeiss Ultra Prime Lenses Cheers

The Sony footage is alot better than how it was graded. The original was 4096 x 2160. I'm hoping the Leica M camera will have quality footage similar to the C300 while maintaining the organic film look. We should have more info in the next few months. The Sony footage is quality but the price is expensive. Will it be worth it?

Make sure to check out the C500 video. I won't comment as I have to be nice. [url="http://vimeo.com/54236582"]http://vimeo.com/54236582[/url]

[url="http://ninofilm.net/blog/2012/11/25/canon-eos-c500-review-short-film-alex/"]http://ninofilm.net/blog/2012/11/25/canon-eos-c500-review-short-film-alex/[/url]

Did a bird pee in her eye? Just kidding. Nice falloff however, the grading could have been more aggressive or better. Curious to hear what the official pricing will be. Go BMC, Kineraw, Digital Bolex, Leica, GH3... Red's pricing could affect Sony's sales... Cheers

If Leica does this right, it may give an image very close to film - after grading correctly? Leica glass is awesome.

I'm thinking again. Yea, it happens now and then. Leica M video camera. New sensor. Roughly 13 stops of dynamic range. If one looks at the video portion shot with the M (note pre production), it certainly doesn't look like DSLR footage. Sure the image is warm, as Leica lenses shoot warm, but it can be corrected in post. Leica cameras usually have better staying power than most cameras (they don't get hammered as strongly as other cameras in terms of pricing). Look at the trailer for Taken 2 - shot with Arricam. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpaT8NzkLgE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpaT8NzkLgE[/url] Look at the trailer for Hunger Games, shot ont he Arricam: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMGRhAEn6K0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMGRhAEn6K0[/url] Look at the Leica: Leica (note [u][b]pre-production[/b][/u], used only natural light, hand held, [u][b]could be graded better[/b][/u], probably not the best compression used either, etc.) The image still is very organic. Around the 5:40 the actual video segment begins). It doesn't look like DSLR footage. [url="http://vimeo.com/49464083"]http://vimeo.com/49464083[/url] Sure it isn't going to be raw, but not everyone needs raw. The camera can also be used to take pictures. I'm curious how robust the final video will be. It could turn out better than people realize. It all boils down to image and what a person wants, and can afford.

Here's a C500 video, mostly forgotten. The 1DC should give a comparable image. [url="https://vimeo.com/39823568"]https://vimeo.com/39823568[/url]

Supposedly shot with Canon lenses. Theses lenses have a certain look. Other lenses may or may not give a different look??? Also, it was graded in a certain style. It does have a filmic feel to it. It'll be interesting to see more footage as it becomes available once the camera is officially released.

Another example: [url="http://fstoppers.com/hasselblad-vs-red"]http://fstoppers.com/hasselblad-vs-red[/url]

Why 4K video on a DSLR? Could it appeal to the masses? You betcha! On a photography perspective, soccor mom is at her kid's game. Rather than try to take a snap shot, she could take some video shots, then screen grab a photo. Laforet talks extensively about this aspect periodically. Example: [url="http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2011/06/07/what-camera-did-i-use-to-make-this-still-picture/"]http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2011/06/07/what-camera-did-i-use-to-make-this-still-picture/[/url]

It doesn't look as detailed as it should out of a 4k camera. You are probably right - 5D3?

I'm not sure if anyone posted this. Canon 1DC video. [url="https://vimeo.com/groups/29693/videos/52209161"]https://vimeo.com/groups/29693/videos/52209161[/url]

When I was referring to Niche market, referring to BMC. It is a segment that BMC is grabbing potentially from the dslr sales. DSLR sales are huge.

BMC what is the number...10000? How many waiting in the wings? How many GH2 people? How many 5D2/5D3 holders? How many Red holders? You'd be surprised how many would jump on the bandwagon...And so on. I'm not arguing about the 1DC - it is an incredible camera. There are pricing risks going forward. Alot of competition will be entering the scene. How about the "company" which is working on their 4K "dslr type" and may show it at NAB 2013? Has competition entered in the 5D3 space? Yep. Pricing will change as more 4K competition arrive. Canon won't be the only fish in the sea. Cheers.

screen, the cost to manufacture the 1DC will probably be around the price of a 1DX to manufacture if not the same. point with BMC - they were not a camera company till now. Canon has been a camera company for years. BMC is able to offer quite a bit for the first go around. Their software, worth a $1000 is included too. Yes, the sensor is small, but hey, its their first crack. Canon started the DSLR revolution. They decided to go their own business path and that is their choice. They have lost market share in doing so. They may gain abit in some areas, but alot of new competition is coming. So who knows if it will have been worth it. When you have the lead, you should try to keep it especially in today's economic climate. Canon is going in unknown territory with their high end cameras. Let' say they could have sold an extra 40000 DSLR's with better specs. Don't you think that would trump a higher end niche market? Maybe? Now you have competition taking away their market share. Win perhaps in one area, however lose in the other. Why take the risk? Computing pricing? Pretty darn competitive and good pricing now. Cheers.