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Exclusive: SLR Magic ANAMORPHOT 1,33X 50 pricing announced
tony wilson replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
nobody is suggesting i think that it is not a true anamorphic. even some rough 1950s plastic 8mm ones are true anamorphic. a simple test at f2 will show if this is based on the century design. if they used complex cemented doublets it would be sharp at f1.6. this design like tests various tests i did on my own designs gives a nice sharp picture at 2.8.5- f4 nothing shabby about that. but making a new lens like this commercially it makes sense for letus and slr to use and tweak an existing recipe single element design concave convex made of different materials. century optex was actually a nice design badly made the tolerance could be rough because of tiny sensor size and heavy f stop. as someone has already said price point is the key here even if letus is better quality slr wins on price. if the slr design's of the anamorphic and achromat are original and they have spent big and this is a new way they should protect themselves in patent law. -
Exclusive: SLR Magic ANAMORPHOT 1,33X 50 pricing announced
tony wilson replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
look at the massive hypergonars nice long focal length distance between optics add a little radioactive material to change the abbe number. even the baby lens have more distance and if not complex high index doublets your tiny optic included. glass like lananthanum used by leica long ago. bk7 type glass is regular standard stuff some of the magic is in the recipes. some of the glass types are not even made any more. this is not a problem for companies like cooke who can spend a year playing with modern glass types refining a modern optic with vintage character traits. compact short barrel wider focal length of anamorphic giving a wider field of view heavier f stop giving many zones of sharp focus,glass type,1.33 compression and lens coatings. complex stuff even for a budget scope lens a tough nut to crack and a difficult ask to satisfy different market segments. cannot wait for the letus v slr v century with achromat video -
Exclusive: SLR Magic ANAMORPHOT 1,33X 50 pricing announced
tony wilson replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
well you my friend are a little spoiled with your baby anamorphic more fiddly in use but superb classic look from complicated 2x micro optics from classic 1970s era japan. and as for you playing with this new lens you are a pervert no playing with china for you :) -
how can slr outperform this i do not see how slr magic product can compete apart from on big price difference. 2 optics this seems to have better edge performance which make a lot of sense. century v panasonic. letus have a more stable higher quality optic to copy over slr magics optex-century. once you factor in optimisation letus should win. clearly letus optics are pretty big and the matte box set up. if this was shot close to wide open it is pretty special in optical terms the dead quality is due i guess to modern bbar coatings and state of the art taking lens. which is best has not a lot to do with it price point is everything slr magic wins hands down.
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pretty good quality optics here looks like they used a designer which clearly has helped took the panasonic and improved it tricky price point. my guess is they will adjust the price at some stage.
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Exclusive: SLR Magic ANAMORPHOT 1,33X 50 pricing announced
tony wilson replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
cutting edge it is a rejigged century and a copy of the tokina. great pricing here i admit but century was badly made they have up'd the glass grinding quality control is all put in a bit of focus macro movement. i see modest r and d costings apart from deconstruct. they spent the big money buying an iscorama 42 that is where the budget went and buying sankors and kowa. cutting edge is a big word for such a modest single element optic. they are modestly testing the waters really. beating iscorama in the future is a great goal for them . kind of like saying slr could best leica in 0.95 optics design in the future. besting century panasonic anamorphic is one thing beating leica or iscorama is one large everest at a decent price point. let us see some locked off shots at f1.8 without close up achromat before the words cutting edge are used me thinks. -
Exclusive: SLR Magic ANAMORPHOT 1,33X 50 pricing announced
tony wilson replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
riccardo slr magic products are for life why would you want to return it before the end of your life? your lack of blind belief is troubling my friend. you need reprogramming :) listen to me now listen to me. you are feeling sheepy say after me iscorama. iscorama the end is near. you will learn to love the fuzzy sides on a 5d at f2.8 that is the new improved way. old is old you cannot compete with the improved new. ok goood when you awake you will find your mastercard and buy new. buy bye buy more take a blue pill and bee happy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUzTDp12Vz8 -
not fast or wide but it is tiny industar50mm f3.5 is tiny slow but very cheap and nice i made a step ring to go onto the iscorama. only good for iscorama as front spins for focus also iris ring at the front but interesting optic.
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nice lens cool angles iscorama is easy but ya canna beata baby moller : )
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life is very short for this shit bokeh tit : ) kind of white anamorphic noise. as i think i said before you nose best. ever thought of doin a blog or one of those instagram things.
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in old hollywood times the camera dept,the camera rental companies did not bother with achromatic correction. harrison and harrison,mitchells and tiffen made do with single element close up. in fact many rentals got local companies to make pretty shit close up optics. i nose cos i worked at technovision,jdc and panavision. in film they had a big team structure spherical or scope they did not shoot wide open unless they could help it. if they had to shoot a stop down from open the lovely quality camera optics could take it. using shit plate window glass close up on anamorphic was not an issue the folks shootin had plenty a lights and nice heavy f stops correcting any nasties we was messin with achromatic close up in the 1980s. 2 big 2 expensive and 2 heavy once you got over 80mm a joke when you got to 130-150mm. not needed. today compact digical cams are different the folks are different most are shooting without lights, no gaffers and sparks,shooting wide open some with seriously shit anamorphics. where did most of the tokina come from,who got them,who tested them,who purchased most of the worlds stock from various warehouses around the world. who sold them,who bored folks with the info it is true these optics will help you. who got abuse from no it all schmucks saying single element is good enough doublets are not needed you are talking shit. me. most of the tokina around the world came from me,shipped from london. how can the tokina made nearly 10 years ago be in original box like new cos i purchase everything new old stock. sold them at £75 sterling then the fewer i had the higher the price went. i now have 3 left out of 300 hundred. so sorry for calling you a tit but your crap about you lecturing some copy cat china company about what to do did not come from you from an original concept, it came from my insight. the improvement of optex,century with tokina came from my experiments. did i twitter blog about it or shoot a shit noisy vampy video no. i experimented played and fiddled and sold some stuff with a cast iron guarantee of improvements. the fact they are making a +0.4 shows again that china has zero original idea. nearly always based on idea theft or takeover. i gave up my anamorphic build quite a while ago because i have high standards and was aiming for the stars. i now understand that this is not important a hill will do. what is more important is the hype of the new and how pretty the promo film looks. since letus and slr are being so lazy on the design side i will knock up some interesting nick nacks that should be pretty nice reply.
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wow all because of you : ) damn you should of told them to use a doublet in the anamorphic design then they would not have this low light issue. it is not bokeh it is a limitation in the century design f stoppin init. but like the noise alex jones from your town,you austin folks nose best ; ) cannot wait to see your trackin shots at night. and fuck you and your ffs you tit
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They're already including the +0.4 and +1.3 with beta versions of the anamorphic. why if they have a new design? interesting as they said many times that diopters where expensive and not needed with a new design? which is true if it was a new design this is proof it is just a revamped vamped china century copy with a copy of the japan tokina. these guys are true originals. the reason they need close up achromat is because the anamorphic is single element. nothing wrong with the kit should b sweet but we are then way over 2000 dollars yes no. by my guess the moller 1.5 should then be trading at 2400 as it will always optically be a better lens than the slr magic. someone with a big brain show me how single element cylindrical lens bests double element. here is my custom original designed achromat not an easy copy of the tokina http://www.flickr.com/photos/34211301@N00/10062412625/
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cool.. contact vamp camp ask him if it will work with his clamps also ask him if he can make a helmet mount cos you want to go skydiving with your tushinsky.. get a friend to film from the ground as you make you way down to earth : ) just had an idea for the sky diving movie name.. DEEEEP IMPACT
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i am sure these new lens will be great compared too the century and the panasonic as all the design work was done years ago,just a question of figuring out what panasonic and century did wrong. and engraving a new logo on . 1700 -2000 for the letus is gonna be an interesting sell in the age of pocket cameras.. an interesting test will be century with achromat against slr magic at f2.8 and f4. i did a test close up lens at mag power +0.12 and it was way to mild and subtle waste of time. tokina magnification is great but as i had a few left i thought i would go milder at 0.25 many people even dp's still say single element is all you need and mild magnification does not generate any chromatic shit but i can see it on a battered old gh1 screen zoomed in. i have some old angenieux single element i have tested the new doublet against and it beats the single element angenieux.
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the slr magick and the lepus anamorphics are single element optics the talented folks of china seem to think achromatic diopters are not needed. and to be honest it would be a little offensive sticking my quality leica style glass on new copies of the century and the panasonic anamorphics : ) i am sure you should be able to get beyond 20 feet going towards infinity . on an isco 54 i think it was 14-16 feet at infinity on an 80mm i think so maybe 4-16 feet range. on the panasonic and century style ones the focus range should be much better i have not tested this type of poorer quality anamorphic but i think the improvements will be big. at the moment i am not sure which doublet will hit the sweet spot +0.4 or the +0.25
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no dis respect just find a small sankor anything with the numbers 16 in it. or a kowa why not buy something that you can hold in the palm of you hand... why buy from a liar anyone that puts iscorama in the title like that guy should be hunted down and forced to eat his 3kg lens. if you want to buy these massive pieces of metal and glass use an auction rather than a buy it now. those links are a joke sorry 150 dollar optics at best much of this glass has been dumped from multiplex cinemas going from film to digital some taken out of dustbins. not saying it is not usable but cameras are getting smaller. you will not look more pro with rigged up set up like that you look like a wanker. send the iscorama guy an email say you are interested in buying 3 set up's tell him you are doing a skate board project and you love his items ask him has he got any examples of motorbike speedboat or skateboard footage using his not real iscorama
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NO SUCH THING AS A SCHNEIDER ISCORAMA. RULE 1 DO NOT BELIEVE THE SHIT YOU READ ON FLEABAY PEOPLE ARE DIRTY LIARS UNLESS YOUR DUMB IN A HURRY AND RICH TAKE IT SLOW, ASK THE CLOWN SELLERS IF THEY HAVE SHOT OR TESTED THE LENS. REAL ISCORAMA COST OVER 3000 DOLLARS ASK THE LIARS IF IT IS A REAL ISCORAMA DO NOT BUY SOMETHING BASED ON A VIDEO THAT IS PRETTY DUMB. PUT UP LINKS IF YOU WANT SPECIFIC INFO ON SPECIFIC LENS
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i got a load of dem kowas dat price means i am rich. praise the lord i am sorted : )
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i am always interested in trading : ) i can do that on 2 maybe 3 optics one optic per country first 3 pm messages can go on the list they will be ready in 3 weeks time.
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it has been designed around the best optics i have cooke speed panchro,leica noctilux,nikon noct imaging onto a 5d sensor size. i took the best designs i could find realised most achromats are design for long and zoom lens so started from scratch again. so although the tokina is the best of it's type in terms of light ray path my new ones have better correction hitting the film plane. the quality of my glass is better and more exotic than the tokina and fully configured for the job. no price at the moment but you can test it when i get time to machine a mount for it : )
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ever wondered what leica or cooke taylor hobson could do if they made something like the tokina achromatic diopter. well in about 3 weeks i should have the finest close up ever. 82mm doublet +0.25 classic single coated optics using ohara and schott germany glass. way superior than the tokina +0.4 optimised for 5d size sensor using iscorama,cooke speed panchro and leica r as the set up. this close up will be a fine match for the finest most expensive high end new or old optics. anyone who thinks these new generation anamorphics from letus and slr magic will not need a double element close optics is clearly not very sharp : ) a simple test on those 2 new china lens shot at f1.8 or even f2.8 with an achromatic doublet and without should make things clear. these new anamorphics are single element optics just like the century and the panasonic optics. maybe revised and improved but still single element.. sometin got a give somewhere in the system. as we all understand stopping optics down to f4-5.6 clears up the image and makes even poor optics look sweet. achromatic correction is kind of cool and if you like the new anamorphic lens concepts coming sticking a decent bit of double element glass in front of bad single element can only help A 3 cheers for Chester Moore Hall the man that came up with the concept of bending light ray achromatic correction.
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you need to take care with some pancake lens that is a lot of weight for a screw thread to take... your lens is now heavier than a isco 42 i sold one a few years ago the guy dropped it on the floor within a week from playing with pancake lens..nothing wrong with um it is just your set up now requires much more care because of front weight.
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optic to optic distance is your problem. you will have to dump your helios find a 2nd hand camera shop and try some different recipes should give slightly different edge results. even the 50mm on a normal isco gives white vignette flare if you point it into a bright light that is why 55mm-60 is better.
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i made a custom clamp for that lens best adapter ever contact redstan.com