Neumann Films

Right? At the very least a hot shoe shrubbery accessory for those difficult shooting conditions in the forest of Ni.

Hamsters and Elderberries

Little 1080/24 test. 35-100 f 2.8 (v1)/ISO 400/VLogL/WB "Sunny". Not sure if IS was on, didn't have the notification on the LCD and it looked a little shaky. Wonder if IS isn't ready for 1080p yet (firmware). Basically, don't judge the IS either way. I don't think it was activated but the fact that it isn't is no cause for alarm as this is an early prototype. http://www.mediafire.com/file/j86ttg6otkmb1ma/P1000108.MP4

Yeah!

I offered to get you a test shot?

I was joking.

Well technically the 180fps is 1080/24 No, I haven't messed around with it. Want a quick file to inspect?

All of it!

Nothing that's immediately caught my attention. Then again, I haven't been looking for it for a few years now and this one slipped past my (clearly fading) eyes.

A: Just shoot in 4K/60 if dealing with intense patterns. B: If you absolutely need 180fps, animate some masks with Gaussian Blur or move the camera closer and shoot shallow DOF. C: Still a pre production model, no clue if it will be improved or not before release but...it's always on the table, I suppose.

In camera. Didn't even notice TBH...a little animated mask with some blur should fix it.

That's the one. More or less confirms the Ultra from what I've been told, yeah?

Thanks, yeah all new LUTs. I have always liked using a Speedbooster, I dunno. I could go back and forth, at times I want more in focus and really would want that stabilization. I would almost keep a Speedbooster on hand for low light and shallow DOF stuff. It definitely makes the camera more versatile.

Actually, maybe you would know this... The Speedbooster I was using was a rental and it didn't state anywhere on their site WHAT Speedbooster it was, only that it was Canon EF>M43. I looked online and saw that the Ultra and XL both have writing on top stating that they are the Ultra and XL versions. Mine didn't have...anything. It just said Canon EF to M43. I was assuming it was an early version or something so I said XL just to be safe. Before and after looked like a sizable crop but I wasn't completely sure.

Yup, exact shutter speed (1/48th) vs. 1/50th is likely part of the equation as well. Codec as well. I think they are all secondary to the shutter (readout and mechanical vs. Global) but I agree with you that they are likely part of the perception we have about motion.

Isn't the most likely culprit the sensor readout and rolling shutter artifacts? No one has ever had a problem with the motion cadence of film and it seems like the other cameras that get a pass are the Alexa Studio (and Mini etc) and Blackmagic cameras. The mechanical and global shutters are the key IMO. We all think that motion artifacts only show up when you whip the camera around using a long lens but that has nothing to do with it, those artifacts are in every single frame of every shot, it's just less pronounced in, let's say, a locked off dialogue scene. And that is the reason "motion cadence" is so hard to define, it's subtle. It's not a "feeling" though, IMO. It's all tied to the shutters.

Personally, I think it is a collection of factors that are all independent of the camera. So when someone says "X camera looks video-y", they aren't actually referring to the camera but a collection of factors that created the look they are referring to. Lenses, lighting, and grading all play a bigger factor (IMO). A vintage Kowa anamorphic can dirty up an 8K RED image or a Sigma Art can make that same image look clinical and clean. You can dirty up that image even further in grading. If someone captures footage on a GH5 using Lumix lenses and shoots in a standard video profile with no post work...yeah, it will look like out of the box Panasonic footage. As it should, that's literally what it is. At the same time, some old glass, a flat profile, and some film grain/thought out grading can pretty much create any look you want. So, the look is up to the filmmaker, not the camera (anymore). My two cents at least!

Sometimes a fresh set of eyes or a break is what you need to "see it as the audience" (which should be the goal)

Hahaha, too true. At this point...it's got what you need. Buy it, shoot with it, stop worrying about it. Hell, I would say we have been there for a year or two now.

I don't know if I would go that far...could simply be something that they will work on via firmware before launch (remember...pre production model). Could be something that you will see unlocked via external recorder.

Depends on which OLPF you use but with the "low light OLPF" I'm comfortable shooting ISO3200 on this sensor.

I meant 25Mbps, yeah. EDIT...I said 25Mbps originally, not 25mbps. Looks like 120fps is up in the 40Mbps range.

That one IS a bit different than the others as the color temp of the flash on his phone was really weird. The other clips were easier to get "right"...or at least close.

It's the VLog and 25Mbps codec...I would suggest "getting it in camera" when shooting 180fps.

Nah, just a cheap adapter that we've had for a while. No electronic controls of any kind so we were shooting wide open.