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I think Panasonic panicked with the release of the XT3. This is like a mini GH5 with (I am guessing) 10-bit 4-2-0 (instead of 4-2-2) video. It has unlimited video recording and VLog. Unfortunately it is still VLog L, which means the GH6 will be the first M43 camera to get the Full VLog. I hope the HD bitrate is good. The weather sealing is a great addition even if the body doesn't seem to be very metallic. I am guessing the new lens is also weather sealed. This has to be cheaper than the XT3. So I am guessing $1099 or lower. If it is $999 I could pick up two instead of a more expensive new system (S1?), with much bigger body and a lot more expensive lenses. Hopefully the stills burst mode has been improved along with tracking too. This has IBIS as an advantage over the XT3. But that had probably much better autofocus in photo and video, along with better low light. PS: I noticed on 43rumors.com, that this has Dual Card slots. I am right. Panasonic panicked with the release of the XT3. That one really is a video monster. And pretty capable with Photography too. It also probably means that Panasonic won't be abandoning M43 after all. Good news.

Return that one Immediately. It doesn't have a Screen/LCD. Instead it had some stupid blinking lights of different colours like a smartphone, though the colours and clinking patterns are already pre-programmed. Plus I don't believe it has a broadcast quality mic built-in.

Interesting size and the fact that they claim it has a built in broadcast quality mic built in (Built-in omnidirectional condenser microphone delivers broadcast-quality sound) that can record in challenging and less than ideal conditions. Main features: • All-new Series III 2.4GHz digital wireless transmission with 128-bit encryption designed to deliver crystal clear audio under any conditions, even in locations with dense Wi-Fi and Bluetooth activity like shopping malls, conventions, hotels etc • Up to 70m range (line-of-sight), but optimised for shorter-range operation in congested radio-frequency environments • TX and RX have built-in rechargeable batteries, charged via USB-C •"Up to 7 hours on a full charge, including a battery-saver mode • Super-lightweight and ultra-compact: TX is 31g and RX only 31g • The transmitter and receiver pair in just 3 seconds • 3-stage output pad: 0, -6dB and -12dB • RØDE’s market-leading smartLav+ (with an SC3 adaptor), Lavalier microphone and HS2 headset microphone are perfect companions for the Wireless GO when used as a beltpack (and sold separately) • Use up to 8 systems in one location. http://www.rode.com/wireless/wirelessgo

What's the mount? Any guesses of the pricing? I could use these for photography if they have enough dynamic range. ???

Whoa that's a monster of a CFA and binning setup combination.

Yes. It does have a separate ToF sensor. It's not Nokia 9 level, but much better than before.

Very aggressive processing and a lot of cheating in the Image Fusion but. A perfect middle ground would be something between 1/2.55 inch and 1inch in terms of sensor with more like 20MP and a super bright lens. The CM1 had a weak processor and the Android platform itself wasn't ready for something like that. With the last processors and DRAM, a 1inch sensor in a smartphone right now could be a winner. Like the NX1, it was probably too ahead of it's time. And Panasonic smartphones aren't exactly cutting edge, either. The P30 Pro is as good as the P20 Pro and ot a hair better. It has more zoom but it isn't smooth, and the periscope in it seems to have less resolution at varying levels of zoom. Which is suspicious to say the least.

I am not sure why they have it every year instead of every other year. Plus shortening the total numbers of days of exhibition too. Yearly seems like a short product cycle for flagship cameras like the GH series and others. Panasonic could announce the GH6 this year and release it sometime next year, to ensure that its customers don't move away from M43.

True. I would have said $1000, but Panny may not be able to allow for limitless recording and 10-bit 4-2-0, apart from the headphone jack. The GH5 has dual card slots, multiple recording options, huge battery life, and some amazing dual stabilisation options too. But the GH5 has a 2-3 year old sensor now, which needs improvement in areas like low light and colour science, among others. The video dynamic range also needs working on. Panasonic must IMHO start with moving away from the 8-bit 4-2-0 codec.

I hope they charge $1200 and give us: 1. Unlimited recording time. 2. 10-bit 4-2-0 internal. 3. A few flavours of VLog and bitrate options. 4. 120fps. 5. Better autofocus in video. 6. A 20(/+) sensor with improved RAW. 7. EVF being slightly better. 8. Headphon jack. Though it's a hardware thing and if they haven't implemented it, it won't make it. The XT3 is like $1500 (probably $1399 and below at few places now), and is a monster for video and stills. Panasonic can only beat or equal that camera in video performance, at a slightly lower price point. They should try and make the most of it. I am bored with the 8-bit 4-2-0 regurgitated from every camera ever made.

And then that whacko who drives around in a Lamborgini with probably the deposits or advance money of customers, posted a Private Chat between him an Bloom. It was So Freaking Shady (and abuse of any kind of gentleman's understanding). And then when people start pointing him out, he sneakily deleted the post with the chat. And his rant hasn't stopped yet. I've always found the company to be a bit of a Ponzi scheme. I saw many customers pointing that their products were Chinese re branded ones with grossly increased pricing. And this whole attitude outburst was shocking and absolutely unnecessary. https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/03/16/cinemartin-to-close-due-to-bankruptcy/#disqus_thread

Also, apparently, the bitrate isn't very high. I hope Samsung allow for a few bitrate options as well as complete manual control over video.

I am guessing this has a 2nd page too. Mayne you could share that for more details about the sensor. Looks pretty kickass. Especially with the 16-bit.

I hope Panasonic gives it the same video capabilities as the S1 (in terms of video dynamic range and also usable ISO upto 12800). Cinema5d.com was claiming the usable ISO on the S1 is upto ISO30,000 which is insane. That's probably very close the A7sii range. Panasonic also needs new and better flavours of VLog (no L version) and h.265. And atleast 1 stop improvement in video dynamic range and 1/2 for photos, plus 14-bit raw/Raw/RAW. Video autofocus in the S7iii territory, good high speed burst performance, 240fps video and a slightly larger screen (3.5 inches?). Video quality should be noticeably better than the Fuji XT3. And keep the price at 2k and not increase it.

So there are like 3 sensor sizes for APS-C (Canon with the 1.5x crop and Fuji, Nikon, Pentax and Sony with their 1.5x crop and the APS-A experiment of Canon with the 1.3x crop), and a few for Medium Format (and apparently the Sony fabrication of their A7 line has lesser width and breadth than 36mmx24mm too). And the Nikon D850 has shown that the difference between Full Frame and Medium Format (atleast for the Fujifilm GFX 50S vs Hasselblad X1D-50c vs Pentax 645Z) isn't that great, especially with smaller sized medium format sensors But then Nikon also has an APS-C camera that outperforms many FullFrame cameras (especially from Canon). So it isn't purely about Full Frame or Medium Format or APS-C. I won't be surprised if an M43 camera within the next year or so actually has 14 stops of Dynamic Range with 14-bit RAW images. It's very likely.

Thank you. That is pretty amazing. The timing of the CinemaDNG Patent seems to indicate some conflict with BRAW more than anything else. Otherwise its been on various Blackmagic camera for like 1/2 a Decade and no word about Patent or any other form of IPR conflict. So, there must be licence agreement that prevents 2 forms of RAW being used or run on Blackmagic Cameras, simultaneously. That is also why the original BMPCC (and the original Cinema Camera 2.7k) will stick on with CDNG whereas others that allow for reprogramming and multiple codecs will move on.

The Sony Xperia XZ3 and the Xperia 1 also do 10-bit. Though their profile seems less impressive, not sure why though. Thanks for sharing this. The HDR10 on the S10 does look seriously impressive. I am surprised not more people are shooting on it. I wish it has more bitrate options.

Could you check dynamic range in the HDR10 video recording, how easy it is to grade etc etc. Also how good or bad is Filmic Pro compared to the HDR10. Looking forward to seeing it. Am thinking of picking up an S10 too.

I had a similar experience with Panasonic India who were unable to repair a camera (GX85). Panasonic Australia were confident they could repair it, and they apparently did (or attempted to hoodwink me), sending the camera with the same problem back and making it worse. So basically because I bought a camera in Australia, and moved to India, and so I was stuck with a camera that couldnt be repaired (the camera had some issues with the sensor within the first few weeks itself, which apparently eas a common problem with the GX85 cameras). Finally Diamond Cameras (in their generosity) sent me a Replacement Unit because Panasonic were SO INCOMPETENT, that they couldn't repair their OWN camera across 2 different countries/ continents. Panasonic is a little like Ford Motors in that way. Their after sales can be pretty crappy. They have some great products (I find their air conditions to be in Daikin territory). But after this experience I am not too sure I would buy Panasonic products. Even if they gave them to me for free. Or maybe I would sell them if I got them free, and let someone else curse them ?

I remember someone saying that after the BRAW on their Ursa Mini, they got another stop of usable ISO. Could someone test whether there have been improvements to low light (another usable stop ISO).

Don't go by numbers and figures. When DaVinci entered the market everyone was already huge. I remember one of the Blackmagic guys saying that their NLE was developed by a student during his Computer Engineering days, which means he handled the job of many different people, maybe even hundreds of them. The purpose of resolve and all of the various suites was to get rid of the elitism and monopoly of the prohibitively overpriced editing (they were priced in hundreds of thousands) suites. Most of the large corporations handicap their features and performance to save their high end lineup. So instead of lacking talent, they probably lack willpower.

There is already a thread for this. Could one of the admins merge it with that thread. Multiple threads for the same topic are distracting.

If Sony gets their HDR right and unlike previous models doesn't directly upload it online, this could be a winner. A good boost to dynamic range and bitrate wouldn't harm anyone either. ? If the GH5s and PocketCinema 4k sensor can do 4k at 120fps 10-bit, there is no reason a smartphone sensor shouldn't have have 4k 240fps 10-bit. So instead of combining 2 frame, it could combine 3 or more for each and the detail, dynamic range and noise could be way better.

Also, there appears to be an issue with the url. I could be wrong, but it brings me back to this very page or the photos. Wow. If you were in the same city, we could have taken a selfie together and I could have added another famous person I know to my short list ? This is superb. Congrats and

I am still unable to understand you perfectly. Just for the record, I am mixed race, and Indians are probably more fluent in English than most countries whose native language is English. And there is a likelihood that Hindi (India's most common or spoken language), may be as commonly spoken as English. Or just a tad more. It was not an Idea, if I said they are making phone in limited numbers, I couldnt have imagined it. It could also not be clairvoyance. So obviously it's a fact and I read from a few reliable sources, and arrived that that statement. Actually the Pixel 3 may have like 13-14 stops but in JPEG format with lots of noise reduction and detail smudging. And no, I do not use a Pixel 3. I find the Google phone to be very intrusive, in the most curious ways. It's like its constantly recording everything one does. I saw a few photos where the highlights in night photos (or photos where the light was anything but ideal) were blown up. Actually I am guessing it may also have to do with something else (heavy handed editing or converting from RAW to JPEGs?). https://m.gsmarena.com/showpic2.php3?sImg=news/19/02/nokia-9-camera-samples/official/gsmarena_017.jpg&idNews=35690 https://m.gsmarena.com/showpic2.php3?sImg=news/19/02/nokia-9-camera-samples/official/gsmarena_002.jpg&idNews=35690# This has tiny light sources in the phone (because they are at a distance), but if you zoom in, you can clearly see that it is blowing out the light sources (highlights). https://m.gsmarena.com/showpic2.php3?sImg=news/19/02/nokia-9-camera-samples/official/gsmarena_015.jpg&idNews=35690# I am also wondering whether they can push the minimum ISO to ISO64 or 60 or 50, to get just a little more headroom. You could probably do reasearch and find out someone else who shares this viewpoint. And claim that my thought is not original. I completely agree. The Nokia 9 is a very drastic step from incremental changes or improvements in smartphone photography. The photos looked ALIVE. Even more than those from Leica Lenses. They have have such an amazing 3D effect about them. Like this photo for instance: https://m.gsmarena.com/showpic2.php3?sImg=news/19/02/nokia-9-camera-samples/official/gsmarena_010.jpg&idNews=35690