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https://fstoppers.com/originals/micro-four-thirds-versus-full-frame-how-much-heavier-panasonics-s1-336236 "Now that Panasonic are entering the full-frame mirrorless market, they’ve created the heaviest camera of the bunch. The S1 weighs 2.25 pounds, with the S1R weighing basically the same at 2.24 pounds. Out of the competition, it’s only the Sony a9 that comes close with 1.48 pounds. All of this is with the battery inside the camera. Here’s a breakdown: Nikon Z 6: 1.29 pounds Canon EOS R: 1.45 pounds Sony a7S II: 1.38 pounds Sony a9: 1.48 pounds Panasonic GH5: 1.59 pounds Panasonic S1: 2.25 pounds Panasonic S1R: 2.24 pounds" Weight of the GH5 vs the S1: "Panasonic GH5 GH5 with a battery inside: 1.59 pounds Lumix 12-35mm f/2.8 - 0.67 pounds Lumix 35-100mm f/2.8 - 0.78 pounds X5 batteries at 0.2 pounds each - 1 pounds Total: 4.04 pounds Panasonic S1 S1 with a battery inside - 2.25 pounds Lumix S 24-105mm f/4 (kit lens) - 1.50 pounds Lumix S PRO 70-200mm f/4 - 2.17 pounds X5 batteries at (guessing) 0.3 lb each - 1.5 pounds Total: 7.72 pounds" I remember Chris Nicols of DPReview mentioning that it was heavy, especially when he wasn't using it and only carrying it around. In comparison, the humble Fuji XT3 weighs in at 1.188 pounds.

Here is with the iPhone XS Max thrown in. That has way less noise reduction. So its images look much closer to the Honor View 10 in terms of resolution and sharpness. https://m.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=5&idPhone1=9468&idPhone2=8966&idPhone3=9319 I had replied in one of the forums that smartphone companies need to make a phone camera that can switch between the CFA and one without it, In very quick succession. And something where the micro lens setup isn't affected. It could add a lot more light as well as a lot more sharpness and detail.

I realised that the CFExpress and XQD had identical slots and almost identical/ identical connections, I also know the CFExpress guys were in talks with Sony and Nikon for having compatibility transitions ironed out, but I didn't realised that it already happened. I guess it's a win win for everyone then.

I was hoping for higher MP cameras too, and I have a feeling that I am going to be disappointed with the images from the S10 series too. The Sony/ Samsung 48MP though, is a bit of a scam. It already has a permanently attached quad Bayer CFA on its sensor, so the 48MP is just up-ressing 12MP. Even the proposed new 36MP IMX607 (which apparently had a triple ISO of 50/500/5000) is not a real 36MP sensor. Anything above 12MP on a tiny smartphone camera and lens, usually has poor quality images and other issues. The Pureview 808 and Lumia lineup, and the monster sized Panasonic CM1, had superb High MP image quality due to larger sensors. But their sensor sizes were too large, and maybe also slow and too processor intensive. Plus all those phones had way slower processors than the ones we have nowadays. The single weakest link on the l16 Light camera was the the processor (apart from the super low cost image sensors). The Snapdragon 845 and all competitor equivalents (Exynos 9810 onwards) have ensured that with a few ISP additions, the processors are more than powerful enough. And the image size options are nearly limitless (metaphorically). Like the Exynos can apparently do 8k at 30fps (which could be great for HDR photos). There are many free and paid apps for up-ressing pics. If you want just a single pic to be up-ressed, you could easily use one of these apps. The detail improvement is seriously noticeable. You just have to ensure you have a great detailed image to begin with.

Doesn't RAW cause overheating. And the S1 and S1R already have time limits (30 mins for 4k 30p) to combat (prospective) overheating issues. The 4k 4-2-2 VLog is already something that may be External, so having internal RAW seems unlikely. XQD may be an alternative to CFast, but they are nowhere near the fastest cards available. Maybe Panasonic didn't wanna wait and the buffer could be higher with XQD Xards. Panasonic needs to collaborate with Samsung and create TINY SSDs like on Atomos Ninja 5". It can be tiny, much cheaper that CFast and XQD per Gb and much faster. If they innovate well they could have SSDs the size of CFast cards, and ones that fit into slots of the same size too. Or better still, they could just get CFexpress cards with blistering read/write speeds of 1,400MB/s and 1,000MB/s. That should be more than sufficient for internal RAW (which I doubt any ILC lineup apart from the GH series will get).

Panasonic is waiting to start selling a few hundred thousand S1 cameras, before any GH6 announcements, since the next GH Camera would eat everyone's breakfast, in the video department. So there will be a deafening silence on the GH front until the S1 has sold in a fee truckloads. I am guessing the GH6 will redefining video quality and features on an ILC just like the GH5 did 3 years ago.

And yet Bird Box the Zombie apocalypse, strangely ripped off from War of the Worlds, seems to have been made into a film. I heard praises of it, and was genuinely curious to watch it. I can't say it was terrible. But it certainly wasn't original and the story could have been a lot better.

This is from an interview at Imaging-Resource.com with Panasonic. I wonder if truly there is an image degradation or just BS. In many ways I feel the more and aliasing and lens corrections on Panasonic cameras actually causes a slight image degradation. I could be wrong. But this seems like its pushing things. https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2017/03/14/panasonic-cpplus-2017-gh5-dev-story-on-chip-pdaf-affordable-4k "... DE: Moving on to a question about autofocus: The specs for the GH5 say that it's faster than the GH4 for Depth from Defocus. So far, Panasonic has focused most of your attention on DFD, if you'll pardon the pun. You haven't yet done anything with phase-detect pixels on the sensor. Is there a technical limitation for on-chip phase detect that makes it less desirable or is just a matter of intellectual property and licensing things? Or do you feel that with DFD that you really don't need to have phase detect? Panasonic: Phase detect on the image sensor will cause image defects [which] are very easily detected when the [subject] is moving slowly. For example, if the object is moving very slowly and [phase detect is used], so this interaction makes… DE: As an edge crosses a phase detect pixel… Panasonic: …it is not smooth, yeah. So to avoid those kinds of artifacts, we do not use the phase detection. DE: Very interesting, because even if they're recording the light for image formation, the phase detect pixels are only seeing half the light because they're shaped differently, and so you have to do some processing to make up the difference. Panasonic: Yeah, that's another reason, yes. DE: And they're doing interpolation, like a nearest neighbor or median filter or something like that… Panasonic: Right, right. DE: …and so if you have a sharp edge coming across [the phase-detect pixel] slowly, it will flicker a little. Panasonic: Right. DE: Ah, that's very, very interesting." I know PDAF is supposed to introduce striping or banding issues, but I wonder why its more prevalent in some cameras over others. and more noticeable at High ISOs and other factors. What do you guys think?

I couldn't agree more. The emphasis on expensive equipment and expensive cast and crew is stubbornly stupid. Plus writers in most jurisdictions aren't paid enough and plagiarists aren't punished enough. If VoD platforms kept a fund for 100 Feature Films under 100k, and ensured that the stories were great, they wouldn't have to think of most of the rubbish. The problem is VoD platforms have not been able to separate themselves from the over budget Hollywood rubbish they are attempting to replace. Suddenly there are so many VoD platforms that no one player is probably making enough. And until they improve their content and budget better, they don't deserve to.

It almost looks like Panasonic is ensuring that once the GH6 is released, professional videographers will finally be able to figure out the advantages of the M43 system over FF.

It does Not have a BSI sensor. It's based solely on the new micro lens architecture of Sony. BSI+Microlens might actually add more than one stop and also some other benefits.

I am also guessing the payment for the VLog could be more than $99 on this one. I am guessing, it would be more in the $199-299 range.

From the fudgers of dynamic range tests ?: https://***URL not allowed***/panasonic-lumix-s1-and-s1r-released-along-with-three-new-l-mount-lenses/ "In regards to our industry, the LUMIX S1 seems to be very well suited to the needs of professionals and indie filmmakers alike: Full HD 180fps (4:2:0 8-bit) and 4K50p/60p 4:2:2 10-bit video is possible and this is a first in the full-frame mirrorless game! This feature comes with a few downsides, though: 1) 4K50p/60p is only available via external recording through HDMI. 2)A –paid– software key later this year is needed to unlock this (and other) features. 3) 4K50p/60p is limited to 15min (even less if the environment is very hot – the camera will stop the recording in order to protect itself). 4) Due to the different sensors used, the LUMIX S1 will switch to a 1.5x crop in 4K50p/60p mode while the S1R keep its 1.09x crop for video consistent throughout all modes (but offers 4:2:0 8-bit only)." "In regards to our industry, the LUMIX S1 seems to be very well suited to the needs of professionals and indie filmmakers alike: Full HD 180fps (4:2:0 8-bit) and 4K50p/60p 4:2:2 10-bit video is possible and this is a first in the full-frame mirrorless game! This feature comes with a few downsides, though: 1) 4K50p/60p is only available via external recording through HDMI. 2)A –paid– software key later this year is needed to unlock this (and other) features. 3) 4K50p/60p is limited to 15min (even less if the environment is very hot – the camera will stop the recording in order to protect itself). 4) Due to the different sensors used, the LUMIX S1 will switch to a 1.5x crop in 4K50p/60p mode while the S1R keep its 1.09x crop for video consistent throughout all modes (but offers 4:2:0 8-bit only)." I also saw that chart on Dpreview.com. https://m.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-s1-s1r-review-in-progress/2 The S1 is the only new Mirrorless Full Frame Camera (among Canon, Nikon, Sony and Panasonic), that doesn't have a BSI sensor Edit: the Canom also doesn't have BSI). I wonder how it affects the prformance of the camera in low light and other aspects. The S1 also seems much larger than the Sony and Nikon in dimensions.

Read the specs for the VLog update expected

The VLog will be better than the VLog L on the GH5 and GH5s since it will be the one on the Varicam. Which itself is huge, meaning that it will be from a sensor Larger than the Varicam and bordering 14-stops of Dynamic Range at 4-2-2 (the HLG is 10-bit but 4-2-0 on the S Series). I am suddenly wondering whether the 10-bit 4-2-0 HLG on the S1 will be better than the 8-bit 4-2-0 HLG on the A7iii. I saw one by the Australian Chinese gentleman Richang Wong. He said it is similar to that on other FF sensors. Though I found it slightly pronounced.

If the GH6 has 14-bit RAW and PDAF, it would seem more lucrative than this (or other FF Mirrorless offerings to be fair). Its dynamic range is pretty decent already. The XT3 seems like the perfect middle ground, especially since its size is manageable. And that doesn't seem to lack anything major except perhaps IBIS. The A7iii was bringing the prices of FF Mirrorless down. Panasonic seems to be reversing that trend. I hope Panasonic has improved their continuous and video autofocus. I am guessing that Panasonic wanted its foot across 2 sensor sizes so that its market share is better. More importantly, I am guessing, it wants users to understand that with the right sensor and processing, one doesn't really miss FF. It's a perception thing, and people who still can't wrap their heads around thos fact, can always pick up a Panasonic FF ?

Whoa. That's terrible news. Will check it out. Is there a restriction on what all objects can be shot for handheld (landscape or something perhaps?). Maybe something with less movement than a certain speed, I am guessing. Thanks for sharing, will definitely check it out.

Thanks I guessed I missed it. I should watch it again. Thanks again.

The handheld Hi Res is HUGE for a camera. Though that alone cannot sell this camera. Also, I don't seem to have come across anyone (online reviewers) who seems to have tested it. But the video is as mediocre as ever. And can they justify the $999 premium, with a 3 Year old sensor with no improvements at all? They have improved absolutely nothing in the video. Why no 14-bit RAW photos, or 10-bit video even if its 4-2-0. It's like Olympus is in denial of some sort. Maybe they've just given up.

That's actually not good, I guess. It seems like a good camera, but it cannot be used right out of the box. One needs quite a few accessories to start using this.

Have the prices gone down on the ZCam E2?

Lady I don't know what you're on, but you need to stop. Like right now. The a6400 is not replacing the a6500. Not in this universe. It replaces the A6300. Yes, it probably has the same sensor (with probably a little addition in the circuitry), but with the latest processor, that new semi articulating screen, faster autofocus and lots of other things thrown in. It improves on a camera from 3 years ago (keeping the same low power battery and the same sensor), by reducing the price by $100. That is huge in the Camera World. To reduce a price for anything. I am guessing, that Sony will move to the new XEVC codec from the XAVC codec. Most like in 2019, and most likely beginning with the A7siii. I also suspect that Sony may limit the 10-bit 4-2-2 internal to the A7siii and everything below may get 10-bit 4-2-0. Sony reacts to the market feature set of other competitors and releases models accordingly.

Whoa !!! That sensor is a techie's wet dream. It does full pixel at 120fps. While the pixel size seems small, it's a BSI Starvis sensor (with HDR). Do I am guessing the dynamic range can't be too bad and the low light either.

The Sony cameras have an autofocus advantage. The 10-bit video in the XT3 is a true game changer though. Like I mentioned above, some of the Sonys this year (A7siii?) could get the new codec as well as 10-bit internal. I could be wrong but the sheer number of the A7iii cameras being sold makes up for the smaller profit margins. Also Sony had realised it's cheaper and better for sales to have a few large launch parties with all the online social influencers given the new camera(s) with a few lenses thrown in, access to high speed Wi-Fi and travel, food, drinks and stay on the house. That seems to be one of the major reasons for the success of the A7iii (apart from it being a fantastic camera). The A7000 wouldn't cost more. It has a smaller, lower dynamic range and way more specialised, instead of being the all rounder that the A7iii is. The Canon 7Dii costing more is because it is better for sports and other photography. The 6D is just a lousy and confused Full Frame. It's like a donkey with a shave, that has been forcibly entered in a derby for purebred Arabian horses. Not by a long shot. Sony is confused about many things, but, specs and pricing aren't some of them. Also, thank God, that unlike Nikon and Canon, they don't give customers a single Card Slot or take away IBIS or disable 10-bit internal or some other BS.

Low Light ALONE won't help the S3/Siii, if the A7iii has lots of other advantages over it, even if it does like 1Million ISO. I am guessing that is WHY Sony is waiting to finalise about what all they can add to the S3, comparing it with similarly prices Full Frame cameras as well as protecting their cinema camcorder line-up (FS Series), instead of bothering what Panasonic does (that is the reason why they didn't introduce 10-bit video until now). I don't think the A7000 will be 2k. It would be more on the lines of 1.5k, directly targeting the XT3 with maybe more dynamic range and possibly the Next Generation Video Codec (XEVC which will replace XAVC, a codec that will most likely make it to the S3 in 10-bit internal). The S3 could have limitless recording and dual cards for proxy or something else. I also suspect the resolution may be bumped up on the S3, or it could have a Quad Bayer equivalent (8.9 and 36 for juggling between exception quality 4k and good quality stills. The A6400 does seem to have (much?) better low light (I am guessing also better dynamic range), much faster autofocus in every mode (than every other camera in its price range), the 180° rotating screen (the Mic issue can easily be solved with a small and cheap L-bracket), better LCD etc. I am guessing (or hoping), that some of the cameras introduced by Sony may get the new XEVC codec visa firmware update. Also the same applies to Panasonic. The S1 series will probably never best the Sonys for autofocus and low light (even dynamic range may be similar if not lower). So, Panasonic will have to figure out where they may have an advantage. The success of a lot of other manufacturers too was because Sony was lazy and overpriced. Something the A7iii seems to have addreased and something that Sony is changing well across its entire line-up. And if the new XEVC is introduced soon, that too may make it harder for everyone else.