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After the Magic Lantern Hacks producing 14-Bit RAW on various Canon Cameras, I am suddenly wondering whether the BMPCC4k is also capable of producing 14-bit RAW. The Sensor (if of the same type as in the GH5s) is clearly capable of it. The only limitations may be processor or pipeline (wonder what the bitrate and other differences would be) related.

The SHEER number of Fake Profiles by supposedly new members (banned members with fake new IDs), and International Trolls from places as far away as Egypt and other places seems to have terribly swelled of late. There should a Rule in Place, making it mandatory for new members to have a cooling off period, from the time of registration to the time of first posting (maybe a week), and then another 24 hours before each of the next 3 posts. There are just too many trolls and IDs by a handful of lurking members whose raison d'être is solely to troll across all communities where open and free debates are encouraged and allowed. While their contributions to tech and filmmaking is bland or non-existent, their trolling is way too much.

I am finding this thread terribly juvenile and just an overreaction by all parties concerned. It was fine till we were discussing the camera. Let's stick to the camera and keep other things out of it.

Like I already mentioned above. There ARE NO authorities on dynamic range. Either They are experts of the Murphy's Laws variety or paid idiots. Or a mix of both. Actually for Dybamic Range I trust a lot of random YouTubers and less prolific or (in)famous bloggers, and people who aren't shooting glorified corporate rubbish. Those guys are more accurate. Like Dave Dugdale among many other people. The list is huge. Even the formet CameraStoreTV guys, Chris and Jordon mentioned the improved dynamic range in video on the GH5s, and the fact that Panasonic executives told them that a little more dynamic range can be pulled off by using the HLG profile (since VLog L is limited to under 12 stops, more like 11 or 11.5 stops or under).

Do you walk like an Egyptian?

Curiously NOBODY does Dynamic Range tests consistently, if not absolutely accurately. I remember the recent one on Newsshooter.com some formet (looney) fuddy duddy from the BBC measured the dynamic range of the GH5s to be 14.7 stops, and that other profiles had way more dynamic range than VLog L. There were other strange things in his findings. Between this guy and Cinema5D, there is like a 4 STOP differnece in dynamic range of the GH5s. One or both the testing guys seem to be off, by an enormous margin.

This is just a quick upload of a few figures. If you check all their figures, the discrepancies are far more strange, and way more varied.

Maybe you haven't been observing Cinema5D long enough (and carefully enough). They contradict almost Every Dynamic Range figure of their own. Meaning that one month it will be fine figure for the Arri Amira, and another month, it will be something else. This applies yo their figures for almost All Cameras. They will contract their own figures on the new Fuji too. Just give them enough time.

I wish they could get DNG RAW somehow. That would really elevate the footage to cinema camera standards.

There is banding throughout his video. It may be a mix of 10-bit at 4-2-0 internal and the fact that probably uploaded at a lower quality on YouTube.

The curious thing about the Blackmagic event I attended, was that after I joked that I was planning to save some footage, for which I was specifically carrying 2 fast cards, one of the executives from Singapore told me that each of the various Blackmagic cameras touring the world, had a different firmware (actually functionality), and Many features were disabled. So the likelihood of me getting any footage of consequence out of it was unlikely. Which seemed true, since the camera I handled for about 10-15 mins, also only had like 1 flavour of ProRes (I think it was HQ). Why I said this, is That Blackmagic are taking the cameras across, but I am not sure they have the firmware ready in all their cameras. I also found the company to be rather approachable, with almost none of the major corporate red tapism. Maybe they are just waiting to be asked. Atleast that way you would know whether they have more than 1-2 fully functional prototypes, and you could get your hands on one. At the Manchester event, you would have not really have had a chance to test the camera. Like the Blackmagic executive mentioned, each of the touring cameras have had most of their features disabled. It would have, therefore, in all likelihood, been an exercise in futility, in attempting to really test the camera there. Ask them to test a camera, and sign an Non Disclosure to release your review after the official launch. Best of Luck. I feel they may agree.

I think people Grossly underestimate the power of marketing and distribution. Canon has way better market reach than everyone else in the camera business, put together. And they have huge networks for advertising anywhere and everywhere, and arguably the best after sales too. That's how they regurgitated the same sensor on the 550D and so many cameras after that, without a word a protest from anyone. Plus it's only since the GH4 that ILCs have started upping the ante in video. The GH5, in many ways, is like a mini C100 or C300, at much lower cost, and Many other tricks up its sleeve. IBIS, continuous video recording way above 30 mins, and 10-bit internal in itself is huge. I also suspect that Canon's development in sensors is the opposite of Sony. It's slow, there are very few models, and a lot of tech is highly exgerrated and never really makes into mass production (like that 4million ISO sensor hardly has enough videos online go even show it exists). But Canon is still probably the biggest spender on advertising and still has the widest market reach, where distribution is concerned. Sony is the only true competition, and I have seen Sony in way too many countries, available in all sorts of stores and online. Also, the A7s really pushed the A7 lines to replace many Canon and Nikon cameras for Professionals. Only sales figures for the C line would reveal whether Canon is scared of affecting sales (and much higher profit margins in that line) foe the Cinema line.

It's for NEXT year. For now, they have Only made enough samples for testing and handing out. But this is Great News. Non-niche and the consumer and prosumer sensor market doesn't have enough players of consequence. Sony is one of the only players who makes some superb sensors, and in enormous numbers. Other players make sensors which aren't as great, and much smaller numbers. I think Sony missed a HUGE opportunity by not picking up the Toshiba Sensor division.

That and making the cakera swapping seem so company process confined, is a ice way yo make mote profits.

The battery life seems disappointing (less than an hour). The crop is minor (though in APS-C). Video files splitting is strange. Recording time limit is disappointing. Sony has ILCs and smartphones that shoot HLG in 8-bit 4-2-0, so yes it is apparently possible. Fuji may be saving the IBIS and fully articulating screen for its top end model. Maybe even 20-30 min time limit I am unable to understand why someone cannot give us 100mbps H.265 10-bit 4-2-2 Video.

I realised that the Mavic 2 Pro saves HDR photos with14 stops of dynamic range, as JPEGs . If the Mavic saved these as 10-bit HEIFs instead, it could improve things for grade, considerably. It could be the perfect middle ground between JPEG and RAW, with boosted dynamic range.

I don't know Why, but I have an l16 Light Camera kind of feeling about this. Grossly over-hyped. It may have an interesting 3D screen, but in my guess, it won't change the course of smartphones. Also the camera modules will push it into the highend FF Price range. And would it be truly pocketable afttgr that. There is a HUGE need for way better photos from smartphones (and everything else pocketable). Though it should be pocketable, nd it should cost an arm and a leg. With a processor (SoC) that is 2-3 generations behind other Flagships, when it is finally released.

Or the main body has the writing being done, and it also has the battery (apart from some commin controls between the 2 drone types, someone had swapped the cameras and they seemed to work pretty well). Think of it like the 10-bit 4-2-2 writing via the HDMI/ type-C that the new Full Frame Mirrorless Cameras seem to be offering. Even some LEDs have it (like a control panel Away from the light structure, instead of embedded at the back of the light structure, to help heat dissipation).

I am suddenly wondering why can't everyone can offer 10-bit 4-2-2 internally if the tiny Mavic 2 Pro can. That camera looks 1/3rd-1/4th the size of the various mirrorless ILCs being announced, using MicroSD cards (instead of XQD, CFast or and full sized SD Cards), and Many other size limitations. It's sensor is obviously much smaller, but so are other factors on that one. If Panasonic can get PDAF, theoretically, it can beat almost every FF out there, as a complete package.

I saw the review on dpreview (on their YouTube channel), along with the mini comparison with the GH5. The shadow recovery and colour correction seems difficult in post (in comparison). The 10-bit internal is 4-2-0 of the Fuji. It seems very strange to put it politely. The Autofocus had improved vastly. And face tracking in video seems almost as good as Sony (it seems yo have similar 495 autofocus points as the Sony, incidentally).

Huge crop and slow photo shooting Rates. It's like a recycle of old Canon parts in a new Mount.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha Frakin Hilarious. Panasonic should feel ashamed. They're generating more hype than Smartphone Flagship Launches.

There are Many things you haven't heard of. That's why you aren't called the Oracle. This is not a rumour. I Know people who have bought fake Nikon cameras. I haven't bought a Nikon or Canon in ages, so it didn't happen with me. Do an online search before you attempt to call someone's information fake. You would look less misinformed and arrogant.

It seems like Canon and Nikon are secretly working together.

Wow. I am just a little worried about Panasonic's claimed International Warranty (I had a terrible experience after picking up a GX85 from Australia when there were some quality control issues that Panasonic was unable to solve DESPITE sending it for servicing across 2 continents). Otherwise it seems pretty cheap to fly down and pick a few GH5.