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It was a 1.3x crop I believe (I will check again). The MPP has a wider field of view than the P4P to begin with, so it may not be that wide. I hope someone compared that too. Or I will do a lil maths. Addition: the Crop is from a 77° Field of View to a 55° Field of View, meaning a 28.579 times crop. Now Before the Crop it was 28mm equivalent, so, after the Crop it be a 35.98 or 35-36mm equivalent. I checked on B&H and these are the details of the Phantom 4 Pro: "FOV (Field of View): 84° Focal Length: 8.8 mm / 24 mm (35 mm format equivalent)" So I guess the difference between the Mavic 2 Pro and Phantom 4 Pro may be a difference of 24mm to 35mm. That seems like a lot, as between the 2 Drones with 1inch sensors. Either DJI did it to protect the Phantom line or it did it because downsampling may have had issues in the HQ mode, or more likely, because the sensors may Not be the same, and the one in the Mavic may have 10-bit video, in a 1.3 times crop mode.

I thought about it. I guess the Majority of Panasonic users believe the LX100 ii is DoA. I was attempting to have a Poll on it, but the Poll thing has some glitch, which happened for the 2nd time. But the LX100 ii being a damp squib seems yo be the Majority opinion around, I guess.

Actually if Nikon claims the cameras have 12 stops in video, I would guess it's a little less than 12 stops.

Panasonic needs to Seriously sort out its video, regardless of profile. Add atleast another 1 stop of dynamic range, across the board and little better log profiles.

All cards thay handle 100mbps on the Phantom 4 Pro in 15th opinion should be able to handle the 100mbps H.265 codec too. This is one of the early reviews (people are claiming theirs have shipped, so I am guessing Mavic 2s may also be available at various retailers). The video is too short to warrant a clear winner (between the Phantom 4 Pro and the Mavic 2 Pro) and the lighting situations and other things aren't much to chose from. I would put my money on the Mavic 2 Pro though.

I am guessing you're right, because most of their other photos on the site (Hasselblad's) too seem to be worked on, RAW photos, even though they mentioned somewhere that their collaboration with DJI was about colour accuracy in OOC photos, ready without (too much) post work. The Sony 1inch sensors seem have a lot of scope for performing HDR in both photo and video. That is really encouraging.

Wow. I don't know why, but I believe the camera in this is very capable. I also wished it had a removable camera unit (like on the ill fated Karma Drone), because it could easily outshine many DSLRs for video with those specs. Even the photos (apart from the video) taken from the Mavic 2 Pro are pretty amazing. Go to Download Sample Images and check the image quality. I find them pretty great (not oversharpened, and with superb colours). https://www.hasselblad.com/collaborations/dji-mavic-2-pro/

I am sure that smaller sensors (such as 1inch anf M43) can improve dynamic range by combining multiple exposures and employ Dual Gain Architecture (like on the Arris), and have the advantage of faster readout, lesser rolling shutter and other benefits. Especially for sensors (such as that in the GH5s), that have 10-bit 4k at upto 240fps (I am guessing 60fps may be the baseline and anything above that is just an added bonus). And if smartphone (and drones by DJI) can get excellent photos (in HDR Mode) by photo stacking, there is no reason why camera companies cannot improve their photo quality (in JPEGs to begin with). Changes in ILCs is way slower than smartphones. If Snapdragon processors (limiting photo sizes and the number of devic3s natived controlled by the processor) and Android platforms (very slow adoption of the vari0us nat8ve codecs used, plus other algorithm support) didn't have so many hiccups (and if HEIF and other codecs and arrived earlier), smartphones would actually have DSLR comparable pics. The only limitation may be that they would be in 10-bit HEIF instead of 12 and 14-Bit RAW. Panasonic needs to seriously consider a Sensor with 48MP that does the Quad Bayer sensor stacking like on the Sony IMX586 Sensor. Or a Sensor that has a clickable or shutter positioned Colour Filter Array that adds 2.5 times the sensitivity with the regular colour information, and combining the two, to create a Sensor that punched way above it's weight (size).

You could check. The DJI site claims to have delivery immediately after payment (whatever that means).

Wow. That would be pretty amazing, if it can. I guess DJI has seriously re-invented the drone (sensor size, form factor n codec). And I agree, the Phantom is just cumbersome and almost unyielding.

That's what I heard too. They targeting 30th September at 23:59:59 A promise if a promise, apparently.

I am curious as to how the Mavic 2 Pro compared in video to the Phantom 4 Pro, especially considering it now had 10-bit video and possibly a sharper Hasselblad Lens. Would love to see a dynamic range and sharpness face-off at 4k and in Photo Mode.

Size comparison. The image doesn'tseem to be loading: http://j.mp/2w5EaSE

So true.

I guess with the Nikon Z6 and Z7 releases (especially due to their video features like 10-bit via c-HDMI and the new NLog Profile), there is more pressure on Panasonic to up the video ante, and add more features. I am guessing a price revision may also be welcome, but that's a debatable point. PDAF has become an absolute must for future Panasonic Cameras. And the video dynamic range needs to be opened up more (across All Profiles). Suddenly I am wondering whether Panasonic can make more 20mm f/1.7 Pancake type primes (10mm and 30mm Pancake Primes?).

Thanks. I finally saw this too. They've thrown out a lot of mirror and body parts, and that's helped apparently helped with the weight. Not full sized: "HDMI: Type C HDMI connector" "Movie Maximum Recording Time 29 minutes 59 seconds" For the Z7, from Nikon's site. I don't know why, but I still find a lot of hidden restrictions, that are yet to be unearthed.

I don't know, but there appear to be a lot of hiccups with these, most of which people are still discovering. From Newsshooter.com: "The cameras can shoot Full frame without cropping the sensor at 4K UHD up to 30 fps and Full HD up to 120 fps. A new N-Log colour profile is available for capturing high dynamic range for flexibility in post. Nice to see they have provided full 4:2:2 10-bit HDMI output compared to Sony with only 4:2:2 8-bit so it is broadcast friendly. 5-axis image stabilisation will aid in handheld shooting and Nikon has designed the Z-mount lenses with video in mind with minimal focus breathing and quiet AF performance. Both cameras only feature a single XQD card slot & 3.5mm microphone input." The stabilization may not be very satisfactory, and the electronic stabilization seems suspicious. I saw it in some other DSLR before (Nikon), and had a strange jerky effect. Limited record time. A single card. Does anybody know why the bodies are made of?

I agree with you. The average IQ (of people) in these forums is rather low ??? H.265 is at best, twice the efficiency per bit of H.264. The Panasonic GH5 has 400mbps in H.264 for 10-bit 4k. Which, for some people is still less, for the sheer amount of colour information needed. I am not sure how DJI will be able to pull off the 10-bit 4k at 1/2 (less) the amount of information/efficiency. Those figures dont make much sense. Could you post the links to these figures? I am comparing stills RAW with Stills RAW. According to DXO Mark it is 12.5 for the Phantom 4 (which is most likely the same sensor). https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/DJI/Phantom4-Pro For the X4S (12.6 stops): https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/DJI/Zenmuse-X4S For the X5S (12.7 stops): https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/DJI/Zenmuse-X5S

The dynamic range difference between the 1inch Sony sensors and the top M43s (except perhaps the GH5s), is about 0.5 stops. Also, Sony uses the Slog brilliantly in its video codec implementation, pushing dynamic range very close to stills territory (for their A Series). If this sensor can be pushed by the HDR or DLog + 10-bit codec (actually even the 8-bit handled well TBO), then it could reach or come close to 12 stops in video. That would be better a lot of ILCs for video out there (even the GH5 does under 11.5 stops in video). Like you mentioned, the 100mbps even in H.265 may be the weak link.

When I see the DJI line-up, I feel DJI is so far ahead of the competition, it's shameful for the competition. The only hope is someone poaching DJI employees into their company and making drones at all price points. The 10-bit video on the Mavic 2 Pro has me super excited. I am very curious to see how it compares to video from cameras like the Sony A Series and Pansonic's GH Series. Also it said 100mbps somewhere. I wonder if it is in H265, and if it possible at that low bitrate.

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Hahaha. Half of London is a ghetto, filled with extremists, thugs and beggars. It's amazing how people can be oblivious to it or pretend it doesn't exist.

I believe the movement from the left hand side of the road to the right, was the movement from swords to pistols, and which side should prepare you for a possible attack. I could obviously be wrong.

Actually the Phantom 4 Pro was launched at $1499, so considering the reduction in size (added portability), 10-bit codecs (HLG and DLOG) and the improved obstacle avoidance and battery life itself justify the higher cost. Actually, if Parrot and others didn't release their various drone in the last few weeks, DJI could have priced these drones even higher.