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B&H apparently leaked the G85's specs, and then took it down (not before yahoo news and a few others picked it up). "B&H is pleased to share Panasonic's announcement of their latest mirrorless release, the DMC-G85, which brings a familiar set of features to a new form factor. This versatile Micro Four Thirds mirrorless model utilizes the 16MP Live MOS sensor to provide a sensitivity range up to ISO 25600, 6 fps shooting with continuous autofocus, and UHD 4K recording at 30p. This 4K ability enables the use of 4K Photo Modes, too, for shooting 8MP stills at 30 fps in three ways. Five-axis sensor-shift image stabilization limits camera shake for sharper results, and supports Dual I.S. when used in conjunction with select lenses which also feature IS, for more effective overall stabilization. The ergonomic design of the body incorporates a 2.36m-dot electronic viewfinder and a free-angle 3.0" 1.04m-dot LCD touchscreen, and built-in Wi-Fi permits remote camera control and wireless image sharing with a mobile device. Adding to the potential of the G85 is an optional DMW-BGG1 Battery Grip, which holds two DMW-BLC12 battery packs for extended shooting time, and offers a second shutter-release button, AF/AE lock button, exposure-compensation button, and dual-control dials for more ergonomic vertical shooting." http://finance.yahoo.com/news/panasonic-unveils-g85-mirrorless-advanced-111500146.html P.S.: B&H fired 3 more employees this morning. They were complaining about terrible communication between the managers, and the lower staff.

This is basically the re-housed GX85, with weather-sealed in a magnesium alloy body, and most likely with a mic in. I am guessing at about $500 more, for that. Also, I am guessing, this has the new processor for the GH5 has been pushed into this, or has a faster refresh rate on the new OLED EVF and that's perhaps why the the camera can focus a little faster. Though I still doubt anyone will be able to do fast moving or sports photography, still with it. Why have they used the phrase "free angle" for LCD? Also, it apparently has 5 "Jikute shake correction". I am not sure, whether it means 5 stops of Shake Correction. If that is the case, this may have a little advantage over the GX85, which is most likely due to the heavier metal body, more than anything else. If it is priced above $999, it may not sell too well. Unless it has some impressive (apparently new) kit lens thrown in. P.S.: Interestingly, no mention of the 'rumored' internal 8-bit 4-2-2 codec. Maybe that was mischief played by some of Panasonic's detractors.

The BMCC was/ is a brick. And weights a ton. It's success was due to the fact that it could do RAW in something so small, at such a low price point, at 2.5k when everything a few times that price point was doing only 1080p. MagicLantern killed some of the BMCC and BMPCC customers by letting them stick to Canon. The problem with Z1 is that while it is also apparently a Stills Camera, unlike the BlackMagics (which TBO would be superb except for its terrible autofocus and other issues), it started pretty badly, and it started through a different business route. Maybe if the Z1 is re-introduced/ re-marketed, this time with all the Bugs sorted, they may have a fighting chance. Otherwise they go the CraftCamera route. Or another dud from IndieGogo or something.

The Z1 Camera seems Class Leading on Paper. But, users who have used it have a different story to tell. It's not fair to try and compare it with the Yi Company's Cameras. The Z1 is a very early unfinished product with apparently poor customer care and after sales. Excellent Idea. Not so impressive implementation.

So true.

Absolutely. Along with an Attached LCD Screen, along excellent touch functionality and menu. And arguably better sound (they are apparently also working on different mics for the Yi 4k).

Picking up ProTune was the best thing GoPro did. But that is more in the realm of professional work, and most of those features are wasted on people who don't want too much work in post (except movie makers). Also, when they picked up ProTune, people (arguably) weren't using them too much foe grading. They should have had better low light and battery life along with other things. And STABILIZATION. Also, GoPro prices have been the biggest cause of its Financial Downfall. I don't want to give you the figures, you can check any source that seems reasonable. GoPro is seriously down.

Yi (formerly Xiaomi Yi), can be called the company that has put the final nail on GoPro's coffin, especially with its Yi 4k Camera (after the Flat Profile firmware), and much better low light. And now it is planning on Gate Crashing the M4/3 party. Camera prices may seriously come down, if this is true. Also, DSLR/DSLM makers may finally giving customers features they really want, instead of the limited things they offer. http://www.43rumors.com/yi-technology-will-announce-new-mft-camera-monday/

Nice grade. Video is seriously shaky. Almost like someone headbanging while recording it. Also the sound sync has a few milliseconds delay. Nice work though. And excellent for doing it in 6 hours.

"I really fucking hate Sweden". Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha I love American reviewers. They're the Funniest. Brits are just ancient colonial racists. Almost to the point of being boring. Americans, on the other hand, democratically crib so uniformly. I love their reviews. This review was so clumsy, disorganised and cribby, it was hilarious. Never mind that the product got completely ignored.

"5-axis electronic image stabilization" Sony makes a smartphone sized sensor that does 3-axis electronic stabilisation. I wonder if 5-axis electronic stabilisation is even possible?

Hahaha. It's true, though the time period for the newer models is too short. True. But they are making 6 month old models redundant. That is very curious.

I am not sure what Panasonic is upto. It kills the GX7, GX8 and G7 with the GX85. And now they are rumours of the G80 that will have OBIS and 8-bit 4-2-2 INTERNAL. If it is true, it will make the GX85 redundant. At this rate, in the end, Panasonic will kill all other lines, except the GH. Very inspiring.

Is this your usual tone, or are you suffering from oral leprosy.

I think it may not be as much an issue with the IBIS as it is with Focus. The focus hunting interferes (IMHO) with the smoothness of the IBIS. Maybe with kess focus hunting, things may be more impressive.

Actually at 12.7 or 12.8 the GH4 is better than the 5D Mark iii in terms of Dynamic Range (according to DXO Mark). And many APS-C Cameras. Maybe you only took the Nikons into consideration.

The manual is a mess. Panasonic probably gave it to some Japanese kid to translate it for $10, ans he used Google Translate. There is a video on Vimeo with the eStabilization (with and without), and there is a slight improvement in the already excellent stabilisation. Though it crops in further into the frame, and thus is a curious tradeoff.

Actually Film Grain doesn't have to be very Obvious (for want of a better word). I saw some films (most likely shot on the Alexa and Red Dragon), which looked way too digital, and un-filmlike, without grain. IMHO grain doesn't make the image worse. It makes it better. It makes it seem more alive.

It is very likely that either Panasonic doesn't include IBIS or has an option to switch it off during recordings. The IBIS has 2 main issues: 1. Heat issues (especially in a weather-sealed 4k camera, and one that does 4-2-2 10-bit Internally); and 2. Noise: If the GH5 is to have usable sound from a mic mounted on the camera (via a camera plugged into the camera's mic socket), then the IBIS noise may be an issue (unless some shotgun mic can completely isolate the sound from the camera).

Hahahahahahahaha. See, even the GH4 seriously outsold Panasonic's expected numbers, and thus production had to be seriously ramped up. If Canon makes $100 on the C100 in net profits, then probably Panasonic makes $500 on GH4 (these numbers were obviously Very different, initially). But the GH4 probably sold like 50-100 times as much as he C100. So, in the end the pricing isn't governed by anything except net profits. That is why field monitors cost so much more than Smartphones, despite the kind of features and technology found on each device. At $2500 the GH5 can make a killing for a 4k 4-2-2 device, if it can attract a certain minimum numbers of people, who will primarily use it for stills. The DSLR/DSLM filmmaking community is still a very small proportion of the DSLR/DSLM buyers, and therefore its photography features would be a huge governing factor for its sales figures.

Apparently the GH4 is at its Lowest price ever (though to be fair it is on eBay, has some strange 1 year Limited Warranty, and could also be a Grey Market Export). http://www.43rumors.com/record-low-959-price-panasonic-gh4/ Does it mean the GH5 is Not too Far away? Also, does it also indicate that the improvements on the GH5 will be Seriously Radical? What do you guys think?

Interesting rolling shutter. It looks like Fuji is Convinced they can fight the A6300's (in)famous rolling shutter (since they share apparently the same sensor). Also, I suspect Sony shortchanged them regarding the fabrication of the sensor or some other bits of it (therefore higher voltage for higher framerates in burst modes, or maybe that is a trick that Fuji conjured up?). Also, this particular video looks very videoish. Almost like it was shot on a handycam or something (maybe they should have graded it a little).

Maybe that 1 metre was too much, and therefore the shorter travel distance makes it more sturdy. Also, I noticed that adapter at the bottom, which helps it slide in many different directions (in the same 180 degree trajectory, though).

If the Panasonic GX85 (the US version) can have No Time Limit for IBIS, I see no reason why the GH5 should have one. Also, like someone pointed out, the heating is more of a design flaw, in the Sony cameras, by cramming too much, into too little space. And, then (most likely) not having a heat sink (or an inadequate one). Like the Sony A6300 is smaller and lighter than the GX85, despite having a larger sensor. And, that most likely is the cause of all the overheating.

I am guessing the price would be more in the ballpark of $2500, if it has 4k 4-2-2, and 5-point IBIS (and most likely a lot more tricks up its sleeve). Edit: $2000 not $2500. We shouldn't give Panny any such crazy ideas ;-)