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The Mark iii resolves more lines, and has almost no moire or aliasing. Why would you prefer the Mark ii, over it. Especially, if you are a post production editor.

The 14-42 lens costs $50-100 and the 14-140 about $500-600, new.   A second hand GH2 should, fetch you about $200.   Though, I think, you should keep the 14-140 lens. Its not fast (rather, its quite slow). But, it has a superb range (28mm-280mm equivalent). And, its a pretty good quality lens.

[quote name='tomekk' timestamp='1354114092' post='22529'] well maybe, didnt think of it. I'm on the road with laptop. Still I think WB should be the same if u want accurate comparison, no? [/quote] I Agree, that the video should have been whitebalanced to get exact perspective. But, I am saying, that, if you put that aside, you will realise a noticeable improvement in video resolution and detail. And, considering, that, it is the GH2, that, it is beating, its a Big Deal

[quote name='nahua' timestamp='1354092383' post='22507'] In that ISO test video, you can see a lot more detail and less compression noise with the GH3. The tree branches are more defined. But I'd like to know how a hacked GH2 would compare. I know it'll be close, but I do agree with the colors too. GH2 is too clinical and that make sense with the green hue. I think the GH3 going towards magenta is good, comes close to what Canon does which I like a lot. I wish they would do a test with people. I think Philip Bloom did an ISO test in a bar for the D800 or D4? That was a great test to see how skin tones look at insane ISOs. In any case, good video and I look forward to the GH3 soon! [/quote] I think, maybe the GH3 pushes 4-2-0, as far as it can go. I am guessing, that, this is pretty close to 4-2-2. [quote name='tomekk' timestamp='1354096764' post='22512'] ^^You can see more details because from the screenshot posted in the link GH3 is brighter maybe due to magenta. To me noise looks the same. To compare cameras ISOs this guy should wb it properly imho. It's not a good ISO test when u set it to auto a let the camera do the magic. [/quote] Tom, you need a New monitor. I am guessing, that, you cannot notice the level of detail, either because your monitor's resolution isn't too much, or (which is more likely) you need glasses, and, you are not aware of it. Please look at the window grills, and the curtains, and the details on the trees and leaves.

[quote name='EOSHD' timestamp='1353986334' post='22385'] I don't agree. Highest usable ISO is 3200. What other DSLRs do better for 2012? Only two spring to mind - 5D Mark III and 1D X. Both a LOT more expensive than the GH3. And in low light you need to stop the lens right down on those if you want manageable focus. Needing more than ISO 1600 or 3200 at F0.95 in low light is rare. As for tight spaces, I assume you're talking about shooting actors with the camera rammed up their noses. For that you will indeed be better off with a 50mm on a 5D Mark III rather than 50mm on the GH2. Oh I forgot - maybe use a 25mm!?? [/quote] I saw this video on Vimeo the day before, and I was quite impressed, with the detail, in the GH3, at ISO 1600 and 3200. Also, the GH2 had far too much noise, at ISO 3200. Also, that famous green tinge, was not there, anymore. Incidentally, this guy has shot this test video, at f2.0, on the 20mm f1.7 panny lens. These are the urls: (The Vimeo Video) http://vimeo.com/54325211 (this guy's own blog) http://www.hybridcams.fr/2012/11/27/panasonic-lumix-gh3-le-test/ ISO Testing: At 1600 (GH3) http://www.hybridcams.fr/wp-content/uploads/1600%20ISO_GH3.jpg (GH2) http://www.hybridcams.fr/wp-content/uploads/1600%20ISO_GH2.jpg At 3200 (GH3) http://www.hybridcams.fr/wp-content/uploads/3200%20ISO_GH3.jpg (GH2) http://www.hybridcams.fr/wp-content/uploads/3200%20ISO_GH2.jpg One thing, though, I noticed, is, that, that, the colours in (AutoWhiteBalance) the GH3 leans towards magenta, and the GH2, towards green. Also, that strange flare, in very high contrast areas, still exists. You can check the windows and street lights, for this, in the video.

[quote name='Bruno' timestamp='1353941689' post='22320'] [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_k1MS80SKk"]https://www.youtube....h?v=C_k1MS80SKk[/url] [/quote] This guy claims, they are also planning on manufacturing $600-800 kindda lenses, for $125 (1:20). Has he lost the plot? I would have guessed this to be on the lines of Hans Christian Andersen's famous fairytale/ short story "the Emperor's New Clothes" or a scam of the magnitude of one by Victor Lustig. But, apparently they showed their first short film, shot, on the bolex @ Cannes. Also,they have a lotta media coverage. Why would they go to all those lengths, if they were planning on escaping. I am, though, curious to know, what the terms of the Kickstarter campaign were/ are, and what kind of advance the first 100 buyers paid.

Andrew, damn neat video. I loved the different kinds of bokehs. Also,loved the last shot,when the train gets out of the station, right into the tunnel/ darkness. I loved the image coming out of the GH3. I wished you had shot the entire video in anamorphic. Also, the B&W is pretty neat. Did you shoot it right out of the camera, or shoot colour and then convert it to B&W? What was the B&W setting?

Hey, I quite like the video, that comes out of the GH3. Its damn neat.

You could try the GH2 (with the 14-42 lens) on Amazon. There was an amazing Black Friday deal, om Amazon, where the GH2 + the 14-42 lens was for $499. I am guessing, it's gone now. Though the same kit, is still at a decent $749 at Both B&H and Amazon (and around the same price, at other places, too).

Dude, that would be great. Go check it. I am sure, its great.

I believe some people already have the GH3, in their hands (those must the guys who pre-ordered). It is, apparently, supposed to hit stores, by this Monday. I am guessing, that, by Monday evening, there will be a Lot of videos, from the GH3, doing the rounds, I am sure the video quality is almost the exactly the same, as recent videos, which, btw, is pretty good. I am, actually, curious to know the quality of the plug-in mic, the wi-fi speed and app, and the other extras.

Hi Andrew, I have been watching video online, of shootouts between the GoPro Hero 3 Black edition and the Canon 5D Mark ii. I have noticed, that the GoPro, seems to resolve a noticeably more detail, that the Mark ii. Could you do a test (like the "[b]EOSHD Blackmagic Cinema Camera Shootout[/b] "), with the GoPro at 2.7k and the 5D ii and 5D iii. I am sure, the 5D would kill the GoPro, in low light. But, in all other situations, the GoPro seems to be an amazing cam. Thanks in advance ;)

Great GoPro3Black Edition video, comparing it, to the former 2 GoPros. The improvement seems to be very good. Though, in low light, I notice the contrast has been increased, to keep the noise low (something Andrew did too, in one of his GH2 videos, if I am not wrong). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZvPBBHAuiI&feature=related

[quote name='EOSHD' timestamp='1353379091' post='21981'] If you don't get a b-cam that uses the same lenses as your A-cam that could be a additional cost I'd say. NEX 5N is a cheap body but not sure what lenses you're using on the 60D. If EF then you need the Metabones adapter and it is not cheap. Why not just pick up a used 550D / T2i as the B-cam? It is the same as the 60D when it comes to the image. [/quote] I agree with Andrew. If you use any other cam, the colour, and the resolution will be an issue, too. You'll have to work a little, on that, in post.

Andrew, the BMCC weighs in at 1.7Kgs, without the lens (and the SSD Cards). It IS pretty heavy. Not comparable with mamoths like the F65, but, compared to DSLRs, and, especially the M4/3rds. The 5 inch screen was a gr8 idea, though.

Insane shit dude. If they turn this into the GH3 form factor, we would have to start writing obituaries for Canon, Sony and Nikon (maybe even RED) :P

Variable neutral density filter?

[quote name='Zach' timestamp='1353338814' post='21933'] Thats a bummer! You could always make a friend in the USA and have them buy it for you and then pay them. [/quote] Hahaha ... I have a lotta relatives and friends abroad. But, I've asked them far too often, and more importantly, they haven't been travelling as much, of late ... :( Or migrated to europe, or even returned home :P I was wondering whether ordering from B&H or other sites would be a good idea, but, they don't have clarity on their sales regarding customs taxes levies etc.

[quote name='Leto' timestamp='1352906540' post='21634'] Hi everyone. I'm new here with a very "newbie" question. I've been making videos [b]with no crew[/b], a 60D, and an awful B cam. I'm really just an enthusiast level so my Premiere skills and time are limited. [/quote] Dude, RESPECT. Wow. I Admire film-makers who can make films, with No Crew. I've had that experience, and for me, it outlines film-making skills, beyond Everything Else. About your B Cam: 1. Make sure the cam you pick up, does24p. 2. Has decent low light. 3. Check whether the cameras have sound in (for mics). You could pick up the GH2, and get an Adaptor, to use your canon glass, on it. There is a great offer on the GH2, right now, a dicussed, in the other post. Check it: http://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/1582-black-friday-fun/ Best of Luck

Its terrible. There aren't any worthwhile deals (on electronics) in India, throughout the year. And, high end cameras cost anything from 1.5 times to twice their US prices. Its INSANE.

I know that the GH3 has a filter, already (and that the D800E doesn't). But, the filter on GH3 is apparently, not effective enough. Also, since the removal of the filter, as in the case of the D800E, only cause a very slight increase in detail (mostly noticeable in RAW, I am assuming), and that too, only for extremely high resolution pictures, a better AA Filter on the GH3, is not such a bad idea, after all. That is all, that, I am saying.

Maybe, something on the lines of the Nikon D800E. The difference may be very minute, especially, for smaller sized images. But, if it helps, why not: http://www.ephotozin...lr-review-19764 and this (this even have a moire comparison): http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/d800/vs-d800e.htm

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The guy has shot the video damn well. The composition and shots are amazing. Seriously talented guy. The sky banding seems to have greatly reduced (or gone, completely ??). Or maybe, its party cloudy, and the contrast isn't so much. I dunno ... Also, the colour and tone, seem greatly improved, from the GH2. Now, all I am looking for, is a completely face-off between the 2, shot under all test conditions (lab and actual) :D

[quote name='tomekk' timestamp='1353143493' post='21836'] what about his constant canon wise mudslinging contest. you see 1 side not the other. [/quote] I guess, a debate can only have Both sides being heard. And, that is the Only fair way, to go about, with it. I am not a big Mac fan, even though I used a few Mac products (maybe still do). There is no mud-slinging contest. Maybe, you are genuinely ignorant of the kind of language, that is employed in other forums. Maybe, you should spend a few moments, before assuming things. Maybe, even go to forums like DPReview, and PersonalView, to get a perspective.. Most of the debates about DSLRs here, obviously, involve video. And, in a contest between Canon/ NIkon and Panasonic (GH2 and GH3), there is really no contest. In the opinion, of the majority, of this Forum. If you feel otherwise, you are More than Free to post your views (with or without links and proof).