Emanuel

Didn't read it, just arrived now. Already responded you to your private message there. I think it's welcome not to heat up our arguments. The world would be a boring place if we all choose the yellow anyway : D At a personal level, only understanding and respect can bring some add-on to any discussion wherever it is, whatever the topic is : -) On RED, I am sad when I see such battle field connected with. As peace lover but not a fool, I always try to give my input to bring any common angle in-between where all of us can develop ourselves, me included. I don't believe in Adonis. I've just written you on private once again. No need to feel like that, c'mon, you have your point of view on the world around you. Brings debate. In a way or another we listen the other side. Food for thought. There are no perfect people. We all learn to each other. You have your style and temper. So what? I'm still reading you and paying attention to your posts. Hope to keep going to feel your presence, no matter what. I love to include, never exclusion makes my day. Reason why bans and alike are not my cup of tea : ) I'm even used to call you when politics emerge as necessary, you the customary rebel of eoshd or when some work of art of yours deserves to be repeatedly appreciated, not long ago in these same pages. Also because some of your approach, political... artistically wise (possible to dissociate?), it is nothing we should ignore. Becoming (I mean, becoming anything) is a painful concept. For all : -) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becoming_(philosophy)

I wonder on the use of their low resolution macros vs One Plus 7T offer for example, though:

No, I could NEVER infer that from women, I love them! What I told you was the fact we didn't know both sides of the story. All story has two sides as we all know : ) At times, we tend to forget because of our passionate views ; ) I profoundly condemn domestic violence or any kind of unjustified violence. Let alone with helpless ones! The point is at times the accuser is the offender. Two to three decades of legal perspective helped me to conclude that. I've just checked our friendly exchange of private messages between us and that was what I wrote to you. Here is an excerpt of my text then: "Another note... don't believe in everything a supposed victim of domestic violence says about the aggressor. Because at times, she/he can be the first aggressor instead. Only to proclaim to be the victim in the end." Take a 2nd glance there: "she/he" (and 'she' came first in that context, because the accuser was a 'she', only because of that). You can't obviously know my life as me yours but for your information, I've already spent time and money to help people as someone working for me offering legal services totally pro bono. From my own. In 100%, not even my business related. Which means I give it because of what? Injustice. I am very sensitive with that. I tend to jump when I immediately see anyone who can require that from my side. My worldview is very particular of my own, of course. There are things I agree with you, some others don't. Something you'll never hear from me it will be to intentionally disrespect someone else because he thinks different of me. I am not perfect, nobody is. I try to guide my life and ethics for principles, though. RED related, I have partners and close friends who are active redusers, I've already been too. Not so lately because of my recent investment options route. For some reason I am here. Without mention I have a friendly relation with the company and people there for years since the early beginning. And yes, I am loyal to my friends : ) As I could tell you before, I've had the chance to personally meet them and I've even collaborated with them in the past to organize their presence in one of the towns where I operate (Rome, Italy). I understand you have a negative opinion. I don't mind. It's not even my business. I think you're obviously entitled to be a critic of your choices. Nothing against that. I just beg your pardon to not infer abusive considerations about me or whoever else. As same as I do with everyone, even myself if I got my mistake when happens. We all commit errors for sure. Judgement is also a very sensitive matter. Nobody is infallible, that includes the Pope too! : -D PS -- LOL You retracted your post again! You're a danger! haha : ) I had to quote you this time to not play the part of a fool! : D Happy halloween to you too! (E : -)

Who the hell is lebron? LOL No, I mean to have a device to couple to use with DJI : -) PS -- Exactly as @newfoundmass wrote.

Ed, I can understand you have your reasons to complain on their business practices and marketing. Nothing against. They are not perfect. Nobody is. The fact I can concur with one or another points of your criticism, this doesn't mean I am totally there. On the contrary, I think it's clear I actually see your description too dark to match reality to tell you quite frankly. My participation on reduser is utterly public so you're entitled to evaluate by your own : -) Marketing or other issues in the way the brand runs their forum is absolutely responsibility of the administrators of the site. It's their choice. I don't think it is much different of some others. OK, RED sales are based in that community in a way other manufacturers were not able to build up. I guess it should be more as a Jarred's achievement than the reverse. I realize you don't agree but did you mind to already ask to some other contenders of their own? I did and believe me, Jarred would love to listen the feedback I've heard through these years. And Jim, a positive vote or recognition of the certitude of his bet if he needed to hear, I doubt. Life is not B&W. And a lot of what I'm reading there in your post now it is completely new to me. I can't surely confirm or deny what I obviously don't know. My private communication with RED people or other users is 100% personal and responding on your inquiry, because there's nothing to hide, such contact is made from unilateral relations, there are no facebook groups where I had ever participated. I don't even use it. Seems a bit ridiculous to have to mention but once you ask, I don't mind to answer you as direct as you address your questions. My business and friendly ties with people there, it is merely based on personal empathy of our own towards each other. As natural as any other particular communication we have with friends made along the life of all of us. Living close or abroad. I bet your case, as well : ) For your information, any camera discussion related, RED included, is even secondary in our talks. Hope this helps to satisfy your curiosity at least as far as myself concerns about my RED connections : D PS: LOL I see you've deleted your post. Too late, I'm sorry, once mine is posted now : ) Chill out man, it's agree to disagree here. No rocket science to see. Only your imagerie and talent matters to me. Debate should always be welcome to have something to learn no matter how much we can diverge : ) On something we can concur though @Ed_David, to ban discordant voices or yes men in any cult not even blessed by my church! : P Free spirit stands as our utmost stronghold.

Why not another most affordable phone, a cheaper route, no?

To each their own. They struggle for their rights. Users for their interest : ) People should try to understand someone's else standpoint : -)

@Parker It is perfect for travelling ; ) Never forget, the best camera is the one you can have and use ; -) @Snowbro They have no other contenders, that's why... With such lovely promos becomes useless any Western complaints, so I invite you to use some other phone, it will save the colour of the hair intact : ) And here's the usual Justine (not the 1st time I find a worthy pinch of creative approach from her tech love on the potential of its use along her enjoyable reviews beyond her pleasant presence, truly American, a comfort to those who see the raising of Chinese as main high-tech suppliers of this planet today) : ...yet some other reviewer: ...from the usual suspects: More footage: Very light comparative flight footage: Last but not least informative details on the product: E : -)

https://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/mi-note-10-launch-teaser-108-megapixel-xiaomi-phone-cc9-pro-2123976 https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_note_10-9936.php

Well, you're right considering the price and the tech available today. But let's not forget they add wings for such price as well you have no need of more than that to have a balanced pristine cinematic outcome if you're going after of so sacred grail : -) To be honest the tiny form factor seduces me at a certain point I tend to overcome any shortcomings. Even though there's no reason to not add 4K60p or log there, as you fairly complain. For a higher price, very likely. The point with such low price is the open gates you have to produce stock footage or any other more prone to be able to end in the hands of inexperienced people you add to your crews. This brings me enthusiasm even if seen strictly under a business point of view if so. I'll give you an example: I have a team going to Himalayas in the same moment I am writing to you this. Go figure if not one, you're able to bring to your crew more than one unit as for instance. Follow me? I also tend to pay attention to price because you can evaluate the potentiality of the gear beyond that.

Good one Dave : ) Since I am always blurring ultra high resolution coming out from tiny sensor size devices, I guess this will shine once upsampled to 4K : -)

With such quality lenses for this price, this format system is more alive than ever before. You need to rationalize your investment to work and produce. How to forget it? Let alone the small format factor ; -)

I had noticed it too. But once I don't want to pollute this thread with some topic gear oriented and related, let's keep going here?

Coming from here and there: Here's a focusing copycat comparative field test by the rather interesting Tom Antos' review: Dual Lav mics system advantage over other solutions out there such as these ones, David @IronFilm? In any case heavier than these two, isn't it? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1472750-REG/azden_pro_xr_2_4ghz_digital_wireless_microphone.html/specs https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1072850-REG/senal_aws_2000_a_advanced_wireless_microphone.html Any other shortcomings as nonlocking connectors for the Azden or lack of dual lav mics offer for both of them I guess? Any other lighter ones to compare with?

I guess registration will be sufficient in a lot of situations such as private or public places where no fuss is added. Common sense also applies as legal procedure : -)

Indeed : ) Even though, the range of shots you can do with a 'toy' like this one goes beyond the restricted regulations in crowd and public locations anyway, here is in Europe ( sorry brexiteers : D ) so you won't be able to avoid the registration as owner at least: https://www.easa.europa.eu/easa-and-you/civil-drones-rpas

LOL You beat me here for a couple of minutes... Let's this one open for new DJI 'toys' to come? I guess this bird is worthy of a new thread by its own, so a new one is there:

And just launched half an hour ago... Pre-order available. Deliver from November 11 on. 400 bucks for 2.7K. Not bad at all : -) https://gizmodo.com/djis-mavic-mini-wants-to-be-the-drone-for-everyone-1839453371

Yeah, I think this shows how committed this man was to innovate no matter the consequences. The idea that why he is a billionaire, he has to be focus on earnings exclusively from a material aim viewpoint doesn't seem to my eyes in touch with reality at all. Without mention no money in the world would bring him happier at his stage of his life and age. His need to care of his health was already known among his private circle, just not public yet. Who closer has been in personal touch with RED family ; ) already had information about. And not exactly from supposed 'online friendships' : D as free guesswork can try to yet fulfill the cup ; -) The most funny is to see how some personal dislike to not mention hate can put people to enter in denial about something out of their control or knowledge. It is quite possible health issues had put him away of Hydrogen project. Other than to complain, why not Hydrogen 2 backers, if any, don't enter in contact with the company to try resolving their business matters? Jim's announcement has just a few days... In any case, I understand the disappointment of Hydrogen adopters. For some reason, I passed that one. I'd rather wait for any product when mature enough to prevent me from buyer's remorse. Unless you realize strictly under a business strategy you'll able to have a solid no brainer advantage in your hands as certain chances can be.

Thanks : ) I guess it is this one, is it @newfoundmass? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1472750-REG/azden_pro_xr_2_4ghz_digital_wireless_microphone.html/specs

What pros and cons of one and another aside size and weight if any significant, David @IronFilm?

New DJI 'toys' coming soon... One of them is already tomorrow for US$400... Under 250g for 2.7K video https://dronedj.com/2019/10/28/dji-mavic-mini-photos-appear-online/ https://dronedj.com/2019/10/28/ultra-light-dji-mavic-mini-video-review/ Seems Mavic 3 is on the corner for the end of January... https://dronedj.com/2019/10/11/dji-mavic-3-rumored-release-january-2020/ And Osmo Pocket on the 1" sensor side...

https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_teases_a_curved_screen_for_the_mi_cc9_pro_shows_off_its_zoom_camera_on_video-news-39853.php

LOL I wish Ed, believe me, I wish : ) Good one anyway : D Please don't let my dark side to pop up or we risk to wake up the tribe of a certain orange man ; ) and a few will jump here and begin to call me bad names as racist at a certain point I will need to start to apologize for the sake of my own reputation! haha ; -) Jokes aside, no, unfortunately, we are not in majority, at least with power to change the planet. We actually need to be with our eyes wide open in this contemporary universe we all live in, I concur. This is nothing new though. It's only to take a glance on History, the world has always been a complex riddle indeed. A wall BTW is just too flat, we already know is not the case of the (same) globe we all share ; -)

Very true. But they're also bringing new opportunities. Speaking of devil, this digital society we live nowadays has proportioned fresh connections to help our craft. Not only with open chances for business, artistic collaborations but also at a personal backyard. I've had the happiness to enjoy the arrival of new people to my life, sometimes at the distance of different time zones as happened with those coming across this RED project which developed new communities of users or from further online corners such as this one among other ones for sure : ) To be extended at a personal level whether when we have the joy to personally meet someone or as simple as a banal exchange birthday wishes. Well, one of my industry partners has two children, impossible to have occurred those particular two kids if not along the advent of so riddling and ambiguous Internet... LOL : -P