Emanuel

Can seem to you but it is not an ad hominem attack, your point (my target) instead... For the person you are : ) Don't take it personally, that "YOU and" means the leftover, not you ; ) For some reason, I wrote "YOU" in capital letters and added the conjunction "and". Not "or". The devil is in the details ; ) pay more attention to it and please read again the condescending tone of your statement which triggered such response. You can't ask what you're unable to give. It doesn't matter how popular you are or how many approvals your team if so attaches to you. Sorry mate, but these forums seem a comedy at times : ) For a simple reason, people are not OBVIOUSLY at same level of experience, background, etc. But they exactly have the same rights of posting as due. Which looks like democracy serves the discussion. Eventually. But not the facts or the conclusions to extract from there. Especially when it is flawed by opinions of nice fellas like you. No matter how inaccurate it is. This doesn't serve any community. Fortunately, it doesn't happen as often.

We ain't speaking about the same... LOL That's for sure! : ) Tell me, what kind of filmmaking you mention up there? That one people look for the best tool to couple the finest IQ and match a proper best bang for the buck? Really? That is, as the wiser producer would raise going with the most effective production value the budget can afford. Or a mere show off to prove to himself/herself (most likely) : D friends, acquaintances and relatives, i.e., to the world : P how shiny the gimmick-piece looks? : -D With the due respect, seems YOU and a few filmmakers of keyboard are the ones who don't understand the thing over there. One thing is to be enthusiastic on these tools (BTW I am one of the few to feed the information about mobile photography tools in these boards, I don't see you to participate too much in those threads if not when Santa Claus goes to town) the other one is to think we're the smarter one who knows the craft over the other side ; -)

Not pocket, the mid range you say will diminish... ; ) It's a mere gimmick as filmmaking camera, not the same as tool. Different meaning stuff : -)

https://noamkroll.com/why-iphones-are-now-the-inevitable-future-of-independent-filmmaking/

I obviously understand but can't agree on that one... Who will shot on a phone, when you have a Blackmagic Pocket? Just for marketing or handy purposes : ) It's a mere gimmick. Computational photography, on the other hand, is a whole some other discussion though, let's not mix up the stuff ; ) People tend to think smartphones are the only form of that and vice versa. We're speaking of something else actually. Please discuss such topic in the right place: We're all welcome! : -)

by @Eugenia

Great entry, Eugenia! You're an asset to every community as always : ) Posted in this another thread: It's a joy to have you among us, @Eugenia ! : -)

And here's more already posted in this another thread: Last but not least, the most interesting combo feature IMHO:

Maybe. Contradictorily succeeded based on Jarred's reduser : ) Not the case of those you mention : -)

As said, they need to adapt themselves. Doesn't make ANY sense their price policy today. Never did to my eyes actually when 5DII popped up but succeeded : -)

Because 1080p/2K is a sweet spot : ) Human vision has its range : -)

And now from these three girls... my hat! : -) Amazing extended dynamic range for video capture indeed... take a look on that front-facing camera output, no other phone device beats similar outcome these days:

RED forged a brand name. Is there anyone here to consider the (high) value of it? They made history in the digital revolution age. They'll stand in the business, obviously, they'll only have to adapt themselves : ) It is even nonsense to think otherwise... : -)

This one is 4K60p ; -)

If there's one for nonsense... Why not for every other ones too? ; ) : -)

The best camera is the one you can have with you. When you're going to shoot. Horses for courses... ; -)

I understood it, hence my mention : -)

I hope you're aware some of your cons list don't really apply anymore, isn't it? When there's a new firmware update to introduce PDAF and you can use a wide angle lens as for instance, correct? : -)

Apples to oranges, my friend, and not in behalf of your gross statement : ) Bits are far to be panacea for everything... Don is on vacations, no one is able to act on his behalf, that's for sure! LOL Well back to topic, I've actually never seen any outcome from any smartphone camera yet to beat this marvelous piece of motion pictures capture Osmo Pocket is, where is it? And that last video up there in my post stands to confirm it : -) Take a look on the next one. A wider angle lens will fulfill any caveat here: Add now anyone to compare the phone you mentioned to the Apple's and you'll have the syllogism ; -)

Grading is matching... ; ) No way they're the same, even though as every capture device, the difference stands in the eyes of the camera aka o-p-e-r-a-t-o-r : -)

I particularly find the usage for this shot unique of a kind comparing with similar acquisition devices along such tiny sensor and form factor size: